Marquette mentions in ESPN awards article

[CAGASS24]

Gardner sixth man of the year; and best shot, Clarke from butler over marquette

Also has van on first team big east and Gardner as sixth man in that league
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=9020884

[SonofPianoMan]

Did you happen to notice who's name was not listed as "Poised for a bigger job?"... Our own Buzz Williams was no where to be found...

I guess MU may be a big time gig after all :-)

something we have known for a while now

[mubb34]

Buzz was also on First-Team All-Coaches

[LloydMooresLegs]

Named JTIII national coach of the year and said this about the conference in general

"That isn't nearly as unlikely as what's happening in Big East race. Step aside Louisville and Syracuse. Georgetown and Marquette are the front-runners this year. And why wouldn't they be? It's not as though Marquette lost the 2012 league player of the year Jae Crowder and leading scorer Darius-Johnson Odom and replaced them with virtually nothing. And it's not as if Georgetown lost its top three scorers from last year and second-leading rebounder Greg Whittington to academic suspension in January.

Oh wait. Those things did happen. And the Golden Eagles and Hoyas actually got better? Who'd have thunk it?"

[MU82]

Good read. Thanks for the link.

My knee-jerk reactions:

Hard to believe there are 10 better players in the U.S. than Cody Zeller.

Hard to argue with JTIII as CoY.

Immediately noticed Buzz not being on "poised for bigger job" list; that's because he already has a big job and cashes a big paycheck.

I can't believe Bill Carmody has lasted this long at Northwestern.

Providence and St. John's are on the list of teams that could improve significantly next season, and I agree. The New Big East should be very competitive.

[MountainCreekHouse]

Named JTIII national coach of the year and said this about the conference in general

"That isn't nearly as unlikely as what's happening in Big East race. Step aside Louisville and Syracuse. Georgetown and Marquette are the front-runners this year. And why wouldn't they be? It's not as though Marquette lost the 2012 league player of the year Jae Crowder and leading scorer Darius-Johnson Odom and replaced them with virtually nothing. And it's not as if Georgetown lost its top three scorers from last year and second-leading rebounder Greg Whittington to academic suspension in January.

Oh wait. Those things did happen. And the Golden Eagles and Hoyas actually got better? Who'd have thunk it?"

And I know just, know just, know just, know just, know just want you want. Poetic justice, put it in a song.

[jesmu84]

A number of people here have tried to convince us how bad a loss UWGB was. And yet, do my eyes deceive me?? It's not on the biggest loses category?!

[Eldon]

Notice what he says

Poised for a bigger job

Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Gregg Marshall: As has been the case the last few years, these names will surely surface during the offseason coaching carousel. And like always, it's going to take a pretty sweet gig for them to leave their respective schools. Heck, why would they? They earn seven-figure salaries, play before sold-out crowds and have their program near the top of their leagues. That's much more appealing than taking on a major rebuilding project at a lower-level Big Six school.....But I firmly believe Eustachy is ready for a job at a Big Six conference school as long as it's a good fit.

He is defining "bigger job" as coaching at one of the schools in the Big Six Conferences, i.e., BCS leagues.  Come July 1st, we are no longer part of a Big Six Conference, so my guess is that if this list were written on July 2nd, Buzz would have likely been on the list.  Actually, the fact that he mentions Brad Stevens in this article as "poised for a bigger job" possibly means that he already considers the New Big East not counting as a "bigger job."

[LloydMooresLegs]

Could not disagree more.  The new conference will be one of the six best.  It will not be a mid-major.

[MerrittsMustache]

Russ Smith is a third-team AA because he "often comes up big in the clutch" but he's also on the Most Maddening list because of "poor shot selection and erratic play late in close games."

Translation: he's a chucker who occasionally gets a big shot to fall.

[jficke13]

Notice what he says

Poised for a bigger job

Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Gregg Marshall: As has been the case the last few years, these names will surely surface during the offseason coaching carousel. And like always, it's going to take a pretty sweet gig for them to leave their respective schools. Heck, why would they? They earn seven-figure salaries, play before sold-out crowds and have their program near the top of their leagues. That's much more appealing than taking on a major rebuilding project at a lower-level Big Six school.....But I firmly believe Eustachy is ready for a job at a Big Six conference school as long as it's a good fit.

He is defining "bigger job" as coaching at one of the schools in the Big Six Conferences, i.e., BCS leagues.  Come July 1st, we are no longer part of a Big Six Conference, so my guess is that if this list were written on July 2nd, Buzz would have likely been on the list.  Actually, the fact that he mentions Brad Stevens in this article as "poised for a bigger job" possibly means that he already considers the New Big East not counting as a "bigger job."

Starting next year, we, the Big EAST (C7+3) will be a more significant national conference than the old Big EAST. If there are still only 6 power conferences, then we will be one of the 6 and the old Big EAST won't be.

[Pakuni]

Named JTIII national coach of the year and said this about the conference in general

"That isn't nearly as unlikely as what's happening in Big East race. Step aside Louisville and Syracuse. Georgetown and Marquette are the front-runners this year. And why wouldn't they be? It's not as though Marquette lost the 2012 league player of the year Jae Crowder and leading scorer Darius-Johnson Odom and replaced them with virtually nothing. And it's not as if Georgetown lost its top three scorers from last year and second-leading rebounder Greg Whittington to academic suspension in January.

Oh wait. Those things did happen. And the Golden Eagles and Hoyas actually got better? Who'd have thunk it?"

Makes this thread all the more charming.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=35169.0

[Coleman]

After the split, does "Big 6" or "Power 6" become "Big 7" or "Power 7" in the media? Let's hope so.

[AirPunches]

It goes both ways. If the article was written on July 2nd, Steven's name might not have been on there. He doesn't specify if he thinks the new conference will be a major conference.

[Warriors10]

After the split, does "Big 6" or "Power 6" become "Big 7" or "Power 7" in the media? Let's hope so.

Why?  The old BE is considered part of the Power 6 and this new one will be too.  You really think the BE3 and the crap they throw other will be a power conference?  No.

You guys realize that in that article he included the BE in the Big 6.  Butler is not officially so why would he say they were.

[dwaderoy2004]

Named JTIII national coach of the year and said this about the conference in general

"That isn't nearly as unlikely as what's happening in Big East race. Step aside Louisville and Syracuse. Georgetown and Marquette are the front-runners this year. And why wouldn't they be? It's not as though Marquette lost the 2012 league player of the year Jae Crowder and leading scorer Darius-Johnson Odom and replaced them with virtually nothing. And it's not as if Georgetown lost its top three scorers from last year and second-leading rebounder Greg Whittington to academic suspension in January.

Oh wait. Those things did happen. And the Golden Eagles and Hoyas actually got better? Who'd have thunk it?"

I asked King about JT3 vs. Buzz as COY on twitter and he said he wish he had a few more days to see how the regular season shook out, because if MU ties or passes GTown, he would probably flip his vote.

I also don't think this team is better than last year's team

[Eldon]

Could not disagree more.  The new conference will be one of the six best.  It will not be a mid-major.

I totally agree.  However, perception isn't reality unfortunately; despite being top-to-bottom better than every other conference except the ACC (and maybe B10), I fear that the media will still call us mid-major (I have already heard some media folks saying "Power 5").  That, or they will call us as they call Xavier right now--"high mid-major."  But I hope that I am wrong.

[JD]

Makes this thread all the more charming.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=35169.0

Cbb, and Equalizer D*** riding the B10 hard, as always.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Russ Smith is a third-team AA because he "often comes up big in the clutch" but he's also on the Most Maddening list because of "poor shot selection and erratic play late in close games."

Translation: he's a chucker who occasionally gets a big shot to fall.

only 3rd teamer with a horse named for him.

[MU B2002]

Good read. Thanks for the link.

My knee-jerk reactions:

Hard to believe there are 10 better players in the U.S. than Cody Zeller.

He needs to command the ball more.  He has disappeared in big spots quite a few times this year.

[dwaderoy2004]

He needs to command the ball more.  He has disappeared in big spots quite a few times this year.

He's not a great rebounder.  Really only offensively useful around the hoop...can't step out and make a jumper consistently.  Not a great defender.  Greatest attribute is that he can run the floor really well.  Not even sure he's better than his brother (Tyler, not Luke). 

[Lennys Tap]

Makes this thread all the more charming.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=35169.0

Ah, the "good old days" of last December, when RPI predictor (or some such nonsense) had us projected to be 9-9, 18-13 and in the NIT. What are they predicting our final RPI/record to be now?

[Eldon]

It goes both ways. If the article was written on July 2nd, Steven's name might not have been on there. He doesn't specify if he thinks the new conference will be a major conference.

Good point to consider, but I would still argue that the implication is that King does not consider the new conference to be considered a "power" or "major" one.  Why is Stevens name even on the list if he is already headed to a major conference?  That is, if King considered the New BE to be "major" why put stevens name on the list if he is going to be coaching in a major conference in a couple of months anyway?

[CTWarrior]

A number of people here have tried to convince us how bad a loss UWGB was. And yet, do my eyes deceive me?? It's not on the biggest loses category?!

Yes, because one guy decided it wasn't one of the five worst losses out of the roughly 5000 D-I basketball games played this year, it wasn't really a bad loss after all. 

[MU82]

Big 6 or Power 6 or whatever media types like to call it refers to the 6 BCS football conferences. If the media keeps making this reference -- which is likely -- the New Big East will not be included. And everybody can get undies in a bundle and take it personally.