no banner for Tommy...,

[ChicosBailBonds]

can't hang the 'big 10 champion' banner tonight, eh Tom?  Would have been nice on senior night and all.

Unlike Michigan State, they didn't have a banner printed up and ready to unfurl at the end of the game...or was the Tom in reference to Izzo?  They have all the conference championships on one banner which will be updated after this season.  I believe this makes 21 conference championships. 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Unlike Michigan State, they didn't have a banner printed up and ready to unfurl at the end of the game...or was the Tom in reference to Izzo?  They have all the conference championships on one banner which will be updated after this season.  I believe this makes 21 conference championships. 

Wrong. Crean is making a separate one.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wrong. Crean is making a separate one.

Maybe you should read what I said.  They didn't have one last night to unfurl, like the OP starter had hinted at...you know, for Senior night.  Tom Izzoa, did, several years ago and they lost the game and it stayed unfurled. 




Secondly, they will be adding the conference title to the existing banner, as I also said.  I didn't even broach the subject about a separate banner, of course that has been done at IU in the past as well.  I guess that kills the "oh no, IU is breaking tradition and Crean is hanging a banner outside the norm" mantra...it's already been done.  1983 Bob Knight.   Ooops

What's next..."MU would never issue Sweet 16 rings in a public place like IU did"....ooops.

[jesmu84]

Maybe you should read what I said.  They didn't have one last night to unfurl, like the OP starter had hinted at...you know, for Senior night.  Tom Izzoa, did, several years ago and they lost the game and it stayed unfurled. 




Secondly, they will be adding the conference title to the existing banner, as I also said.  I didn't even broach the subject about a separate banner, of course that has been done at IU in the past as well.  I guess that kills the "oh no, IU is breaking tradition and Crean is hanging a banner outside the norm" mantra...it's already been done.  1983 Bob Knight.   Ooops

What's next..."MU would never issue Sweet 16 rings in a public place like IU did"....ooops.

It was noted prior in this thread that 1983 already had a separate banner.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes, it was also noted that MU gave out Sweet 16 rings in a public ceremony with thousands of fans and that was ignored as if it never happened and mocked with another school did it.

The funny part in all of this is having NON-IU people decide what is or isn't appropriate for IU and their way of celebrating.  Things change, traditions change.  Guess what, as each year goes by less and less people latch on to Warriors. I hate the change, I'm sure PRN does, but that doesn't mean he's in the majority any longer.

If IU wants to hang a banner for every single thing, that's their right.  Furthermore, if their fans accept it and embrace it, then they are the ones that it should matter to.  UNC puts a banner up for everything, including NIT appearances....are they less of a program for doing so?  The obsession with what TC does is clinical.

[keefe]

I didn't even broach the subject about a separate banner, of course that has been done at IU in the past as well.  I guess that kills the "oh no, IU is breaking tradition and Crean is hanging a banner outside the norm" mantra...it's already been done.  1983 Bob Knight.   Ooops

Very different case. The 83 banner was to honor the fans. It was unfurled then promptly furled the next day and put in a storage closet.

Crean is the one who brought that 83 banner back out. And Crean will have a separate banner if he ever wins a Big 10 championship again. Since he is doing a separate banner I hope he does the honest thing and lists IU as a Co-Champion with 33% of the Conference.

[Hards Alumni]

Yes, it was also noted that MU gave out Sweet 16 rings in a public ceremony with thousands of fans and that was ignored as if it never happened and mocked with another school did it.

The funny part in all of this is having NON-IU people decide what is or isn't appropriate for IU and their way of celebrating.  Things change, traditions change.  Guess what, as each year goes by less and less people latch on to Warriors. I hate the change, I'm sure PRN does, but that doesn't mean he's in the majority any longer.

If IU wants to hang a banner for every single thing, that's their right.  Furthermore, if their fans accept it and embrace it, then they are the ones that it should matter to.  UNC puts a banner up for everything, including NIT appearances....are they less of a program for doing so?  The obsession with what TC does is clinical.

What it boils down to is this.  You will back anything CTC does at IU.  If IU started rushing the court after every home win, you'd probably think it was fine too a long as the people in Bloomington thought it was cool. 

The way CTC handled the 'ceremony' wasn't just made fun of here.  It was widely mocked around the internet.  Many fan bases think the guy is a laughingstock.  And frankly, he is.  We've called him a carnival barker and a used car salesman for years, and the rest of the CBB fans are starting to see why.  So when someone on another board points out that CTC is being a real knob I'll expect to be on each and every one of their boards defending him.  If not, then why come to his defense on this board every time?  Somewhere out there, someone is talking trash about CTC.

I guess my real point is why defend CTC here against any and all comers?  They won't stop.  It just really creates this vicious cycle that you decide to remain a part of... yet you expect these loonies to let it go... when you won't.

Sorry, that was really disjointed, rambled, and preachy.  Pretty much me in a nutshell.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Very different case. The 83 banner was to honor the fans. It was unfurled then promptly furled the next day and put in a storage closet.

Crean is the one who brought that 83 banner back out. And Crean will have a separate banner if he ever wins a Big 10 championship again. Since he is doing a separate banner I hope he does the honest thing and lists IU as a Co-Champion with 33% of the Conference.

First off, if IU wins this weekend, they are solo champions.  If they don't, and win the co-championship they'll list it like they have done in the past.

Why do you care how IU represents their accomplishments?  Honestly?  Why is it ok for North Carolina to have a banner for every accomplishment but God forbid if IU does they are less of a program....or is it that UNC is less of a program because they do it?   UNC = ok?  IU = not ok?  Duke = ok?  IU = not ok?

Seriously, you guys are funny and hypocritical beyond belief.

[NavinRJohnson]

Why do you care how IU represents their accomplishments?  Honestly? 

Why do you care that anyone cares? Honestly?

[ChicosBailBonds]

What it boils down to is this.  You will back anything CTC does at IU.  If IU started rushing the court after every home win, you'd probably think it was fine too a long as the people in Bloomington thought it was cool. 

The way CTC handled the 'ceremony' wasn't just made fun of here.  It was widely mocked around the internet.  Many fan bases think the guy is a laughingstock.  And frankly, he is.  We've called him a carnival barker and a used car salesman for years, and the rest of the CBB fans are starting to see why.  So when someone on another board points out that CTC is being a real knob I'll expect to be on each and every one of their boards defending him.  If not, then why come to his defense on this board every time?  Somewhere out there, someone is talking trash about CTC.

I guess my real point is why defend CTC here against any and all comers?  They won't stop.  It just really creates this vicious cycle that you decide to remain a part of... yet you expect these loonies to let it go... when you won't.

Sorry, that was really disjointed, rambled, and preachy.  Pretty much me in a nutshell.

Wrong.  I don't back everything he does, I just laugh at the idiots barking at everything he does...they are totally obsessed.  There was nothing more priceless than the complete dolts here bashing them for Sweet 16 rings when it would have taken 10 seconds to find out MU does the same thing.  The hypocrisy with our fans is absolutely incredible.  Deny it all you want, it is crazy.  Clinical.  They guy has been gone 5 years....5 years.  IU loses to a top team like Ohio State and it's like IU lost to UWGB or something.

Guess what, somewhere out there someone is talking trash about Buzz.  Or any other coach.  I have no problem with that, it's just fans being fans....but when they are idiotic and hypocritical, happy to point it out and show their hypocrisy.  It's the neighborly thing to do. 

[jesmu84]

Wrong.  I don't back everything he does, I just laugh at the idiots barking at everything he does...they are totally obsessed.  There was nothing more priceless than the complete dolts here bashing them for Sweet 16 rings when it would have taken 10 seconds to find out MU does the same thing.  The hypocrisy with our fans is absolutely incredible.  Deny it all you want, it is crazy.  Clinical.  They guy has been gone 5 years....5 years.  IU loses to a top team like Ohio State and it's like IU lost to UWGB or something.

Guess what, somewhere out there someone is talking trash about Buzz.  Or any other coach.  I have no problem with that, it's just fans being fans....but when they are idiotic and hypocritical, happy to point it out and show their hypocrisy.  It's the neighborly thing to do. 

So let them be obsessed? Why challenge their obsession? They aren't hurting anyone, except maybe themselves. Let the "hypocrites" be hypocrites. What does it matter at all to you? Do you feel they misrepresent our fanbase? Do you feel they portray our fanbase in a bad way? You go on to say that every coach gets trashed, so why does it matter if we do it too?

Also, I didn't really see much posted about the loss or the actual game, all the posts were about the post-game activities.

[NavinRJohnson]

Or any other coach.  I have no problem with that, it's just fans being fans....but when they are idiotic and hypocritical, happy to point it out and show their hypocrisy.  It's the neighborly thing to do. 

I can say with absolute confidence that plenty here have also ripped on Bo Ryan, jim boeheim, Rick pitino, etc. in similar ways. If you have pointed out and showed their hypocrisy in those cases, I'd l ove to see those posts.

The guy is a douche and people don't like him because of it. You have a man crush, and that's fine, but lets just call it what it is.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Why do you care that anyone cares? Honestly?

It's my alma mater...honestly.  And it reflects poorly on MU when so many people look so stupid here.  Makes all of our alumni look like they were dropped on their heads and got in with a 15 ACT.

[NavinRJohnson]

BTW, sliding the UWGB reference in there...twice...very subtle.

[NavinRJohnson]

And it reflects poorly on MU when so many people look so stupid here.  Makes all of our alumni look like they were dropped on their heads and got in with a 15 ACT.

Ummmm...no it actually doesn't do that at all.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I can say with absolute confidence that plenty here have also ripped on Bo Ryan, jim boeheim, Rick pitino, etc. in similar ways. If you have pointed out and showed their hypocrisy in those cases, I'd l ove to see those posts.

The guy is a douche and people don't like him because of it. You have a man crush, and that's fine, but lets just call it what it is.

Not even close.  Wisconsin has lost more times this year than IU...go check how many threads are started when Wisconsin loses vs when IU loses. Not even close to as many and Wisconsin is a rival of ours...there SHOULD be more threads when Wisconsin loses.  IU isn't even a rival.  They've owned our arses throughout history...what are we, 1-8 all-time against them? 1 national title to 5?  etc, etc?  You would think we play IU every single day and they are located 20 miles down the road.

[jesmu84]

It's my alma mater...honestly.  And it reflects poorly on MU when so many people look so stupid here.  Makes all of our alumni look like they were dropped on their heads and got in with a 15 ACT.

Do you go to your other alma maters' messages boards and tell them they're all idiotic when they do something similar? Do you point out all their hypocrises? If you don't, doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

[ChicosBailBonds]

BTW, sliding the UWGB reference in there...twice...very subtle.

Not subtle at all...people get 4 threads starting for IU losing to Ohio State, a national rated program and a team that could finish as co-champions of the Big Ten?  Really?  It's not like IU lost to UWGB, which would actually be WORTHY of a thread, maybe even 4.  That was the point.

So, are the blowhards here ok with MU hanging a banner for winning the Big East title?  You know, it's what Tom Crean would have done if he were at Marquette because he did it last time.  I'd sure want to make sure it is ok to do it and doesn't ruffle anyone's sensibilities...afterall we are so good we should only hang banners when MU wins a national title.   

[jmayer1]

It's my alma mater...honestly.  And it reflects poorly on MU when so many people look so stupid here.  Makes all of our alumni look like they were dropped on their heads and got in with a 15 ACT.

I believe having a poster who names drops at every chance, brags about how much money he makes/which schools he got into, constantly plays the martyr, and always tries to prove he's the smartest man in the room (short-man syndrome) reflects much worse on MU than some posters who revel in anything bad that happens to a former coach they dislike.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Do you go to your other alma maters' messages boards and tell them they're all idiotic when they do something similar? Do you point out all their hypocrises? If you don't, doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

Does the IU board do anything as stupid as this board about a school they have no association with?  Nope.  IU fans rip on conference brethren, especially Purdue and Illinois...because there is a tie-in.  Do they start 4 threads when Marquette loses?  Hell, most IU fans don't know MU exists.  So sorry, try that line of thinking elsewhere.

[jmayer1]

Does the IU board do anything as stupid as this board about a school they have no association with?  Nope.  IU fans rip on conference brethren, especially Purdue and Illinois...because there is a tie-in.  Do they start 4 threads when Marquette loses?  Hell, most IU fans don't know MU exists.  So sorry, try that line of thinking elsewhere.

I sure as hell bet they had threads on Bob Knight after he left pal.

So sorry, try that line of thinking elsewhere.

[jesmu84]

nm

[NavinRJohnson]

Does the IU board do anything as stupid as this board about a school they have no association with?  Nope.  IU fans rip on conference brethren, especially Purdue and Illinois...because there is a tie-in.  Do they start 4 threads when Marquette loses?  Hell, most IU fans don't know MU exists.  So sorry, try that line of thinking elsewhere.

If the people here are so stupid, so wrong, and so misguided, why spend the time here you do? why spend hours on end defending a narcissistic douche against a group of uniformed morons who are barley a blip on the college basketball radar?

[ATL MU Warrior]

If the people here are so stupid, so wrong, and so misguided, why spend the time here you do? why spend hours on end defending a narcissistic douche against a group of uniformed morons who are barley a blip on the college basketball radar?

Because it provides him with the attention he so desparately craves.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If the people here are so stupid, so wrong, and so misguided, why spend the time here you do? why spend hours on end defending a narcissistic douche against a group of uniformed morons who are barley a blip on the college basketball radar?

Not all people, just the ones that think it reflects really well on Marquette to attack the coach's wife to the point the repeatedly do it...very classy.  Or the ones that think that having MU on the front page of the Chicago tribune because of sexual assault transgressions of the basketball team means it's time to attack the co-eds involved and make sure people believe they are at fault for the incidents, not anyone else.....surely not anyone that dons a uniform.  Definitely some solid individuals here at times...the female attacks that some posters come up with over the years here.  All class.  Those are the morons I worry about most....and the light it puts MU in.