Report: C7 to split in July, take Big East name with it

[Groin_pull]

Very, very interesting. The ND thing. The fact that they're naming names: Creighton, Dayton and SLU (because there is no other school that rhymes with Payton, I guess).

This is happening crazy-fast, and I think it's great. Say what you want about Katz, but he is a good reporter with good sources, so this lends a lot of credence to the whole shebang.

As a N.C. resident, my biggest concern continues to be this: Will I be able to watch virtually every Marquette game, as has been the case the last couple of seasons (thanks to ESPN3)? Here's hoping Fox knows what it's doing. I have my doubts.

Why? I'm under the impression that Fox always knows exactly what they're doing and will give ESPN serious competition.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Is there still time to trade Dayton for a team to be named later?

[tower912]

By having only 9 teams the first year, does the 9-way split of the TV money offset the departure costs?    In other words, the other teams wait a year while the C7+2 recoup their costs and then have a 12 way split from then on?

[Warriors10]

My emotions summed nicely.
Now if they announce Creighton or any school other than Dayton....

You'll love this thread: http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22855

Will make it only that much better if they don't get an invite.

[MUMountin]

By having only 9 teams the first year, does the 9-way split of the TV money offset the departure costs?    In other words, the other teams wait a year while the C7+2 recoup their costs and then have a 12 way split from then on?

Depends on the yet-to-exist contract.  Since (as far as we know) nothing is signed yet, Fox might want to pay less in the first year for less content/viewership.  But, if Fox is willing to pay the same amount per year from day one, regardless of how many are in the conference, that would certainly help offset the costs!

[Pakuni]

Is there still time to trade Dayton for a team to be named later?

Wait ... didn't UDPride assure us Dayton wouldn't stoop so low as to join this new conference?

[Dawson Rental]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources

A quote from this article:
"If unable to join the ACC in 2013-14, the Fighting Irish would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league before moving to the ACC in 2014, a source said."

They would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league.  Wow, how nice of them.  I forget; what was the reason that UConn and Cincy's inquiries about joining the C7 went nowhere fast?  And ND thinks that it'll be different for them.  That's hubris.

[Dawson Rental]

Wait ... didn't UDPride assure us Dayton wouldn't stoop so low as to join this new conference?

All very strange since UDPride also pointed out that Fox would only offer what they offered due to the former A10 teams joining the conference.  Yet, Fox will settle for only two A10 teams the first year, and no Dayton.  Hummmmm

[denverMU]

Love it. So happy to be wrong about the departure date.

Most of all I'm so proud of MU and the C7 for taking control of their destiny. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!

Agreed, Educating Men and Women for Others, for the greater glory of God!

[TallTitan34]

Im excited for next season when ND and Louisville paint the new conference name on the court only to replace it the following year.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Why? I'm under the impression that Fox always knows exactly what they're doing and will give ESPN serious competition.

Fox has a HUGE challenge in front of them.  Incumbancy means a lot.  Can they get the content to compete and how fast can they get it?  All I know is television rates are going to go up even more because it is a sellers market and ESPN and FOX are going to spend a lot of money, with NBC also doing it, to buy up rights.  They will pass on those costs to distributors (Uverse, Fios, Directv, Dish, Time Warner, etc) who will pass on some of those costs to their customers.

It's going to be wild.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Thoughts on keeping the logo? I'm not a huge fan of how it looks currently and I don't think it has as much brand importance as the name itself.

[jsglow]

A quote from this article:
"If unable to join the ACC in 2013-14, the Fighting Irish would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league before moving to the ACC in 2014, a source said."

They would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league.  Wow, how nice of them.  I forget; what was the reason that UConn and Cincy's inquiries about joining the C7 went nowhere fast?  And ND thinks that it'll be different for them.  That's hubris.

I think the Irish can spend the year playing with themselves in the corner.

[JD]

Can someone educate me on why teams like UConn and Cincy especially don't drop football?  I don't really understand, do they hold out and pray they make it to a bigger conference?  I heard on stubhub they're tickets are pretty cheap next year.

What's the breaking point for them before they just say "Fk it" and drop football, or is that just dumb thinking on my part?

[Hamostradamus]

"If unable to join the ACC in 2013-14, the Fighting Irish would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league before moving to the ACC in 2014, a source said."

Smart. ACC may evaporate in the next 12 months, ND is going to park it in the C7 and then lean on us for admission if the B1G can kill the ACC.

[Eldon]

Thoughts on keeping the logo? I'm not a huge fan of how it looks currently and I don't think it has as much brand importance as the name itself.

In my opinion, I would like to see us keep the logo, at least for the first couple of years.  That way, we're not implicitly saying 'yea we're the big east, but a newer version'.  I like the 'we're still the old big east that you are familiar with--no changes, still bball first' message.

[GGGG]

Can someone educate me on why teams like UConn and Cincy especially don't drop football?  I don't really understand, do they hold out and pray they make it to a bigger conference?  I heard on stubhub they're tickets are pretty cheap next year.

What's the breaking point for them before they just say "Fk it" and drop football, or is that just dumb thinking on my part?

Not saying it's "dumb thinking," but football is potentially way more lucrative.

[GGGG]

Smart. ACC may evaporate in the next 12 months, ND is going to park it in the C7 and then lean on us for admission if the B1G can kill the ACC.

The ACC isn't going anywhere.  Please stop believing this is the case.  It may lose no one...it may lose two, three or up to five schools, but it isn't going away.

[NavinRJohnson]

The ACC isn't going anywhere.  Please stop believing this is the case.  It may lose no one...it may lose two, three or up to five schools, but it isn't going away.

No, but the Big East may ultimatley turn out to be a better option for them, as the ACC is going to see changes. If the Big East can accommodate them on a potenially short-term basis, it would seem to be a fairly low risk, possibly high reward move. It's a door I would certainly recommend keeping open.

[keefe]

Thoughts on keeping the logo? I'm not a huge fan of how it looks currently and I don't think it has as much brand importance as the name itself.

Research has shown that the shape of the Coke bottle exceeds in value the formal name of the company, Coca Cola. My hunch is that the Big East logo has intrinsic value that is worth keeping.

[NavinRJohnson]

So MSG seems to be the big remaining question. Anyone know if the current Big East is still locked in for next year (and beyond)?

[Hamostradamus]

No, but the Big East may ultimatley turn out to be a better option for them, as the ACC is going to see changes. If the Big East can accommodate them on a potenially short-term basis, it would seem to be a fairly low risk, possibly high reward move. It's a door I would certainly recommend keeping open.

The ACC is only a better deal if it stays in tact.  If there are more defections next year and they have to replace top-tier defections with second-rate schools, the existing tv deal is probably renegotiated and ND may decide we can pay more money.

[Jet915]

ESPN updated their article and it now says this:

Creighton has emerged as the favorite to become the 10th team, and would also join next season, according to sources.

Hopefully we can join you guys next year in the Big East!

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources

[Dawson Rental]

Can someone educate me on why teams like UConn and Cincy especially don't drop football?  I don't really understand, do they hold out and pray they make it to a bigger conference?  I heard on stubhub they're tickets are pretty cheap next year.

What's the breaking point for them before they just say "Fk it" and drop football, or is that just dumb thinking on my part?

Cincy especially?  ND got its current football coach, Brian Kelly from Cincy.  In his last year at Cincy, 2009, Kelly had Ciny ranked third in the country.

[TVDirector]

NEW YORK (AP) -- The breakup of the Big East's football and basketball schools appears to be on the fast track.
The major college football members will meet in Atlanta on Friday to discuss the departure of the seven basketball schools that are planning to leave the conference and create a new league.
According to media reports, the basketball schools plan to have their new conference up and running for the 2013-14 school year and will pay the football schools to keep the Big East name and play its conference tournament at Madison Square Garden in New York.
Big East Commissioner Mike Aresco says no deal has been completed between the two groups but ''some of this stuff is clearly coming down to the wire.''