Email to the fanatics, from Larry

[ATLmarquettefan]

wow...i didn't realize how many old farts actually post on this board. Is it an immature chant? Yes. But guess what, most college kids are immature.

Plus as some other posters have alluded to, the "you suck" chant is nothing compared to other schools...such as UW's "eat $hit! Frack you" chant.

[Badgerhater]

Students will do it more now.

[Muhoops85]

I guess since I am over 50 that may make me an old fart.

That said, I really do not care for the "you suck" cheer. It's neither clever or MU specific". As someone who has been to many MU road games and heard other team's fans, I really our fan base could come up with something unique.

[T-Bone]

First heard it being done by DePaul students against us. Thought it was lame. DePaul is lame ergo it is lame.

[Abode4life]

I guess since I am over 50 that may make me an old fart.

That said, I really do not care for the "you suck" cheer. It's neither clever or MU specific". As someone who has been to many MU road games and heard other team's fans, I really our fan base could come up with something unique.

I agree with you about not being clever.  Thats why I hate it.  I don't think its offensive and saying that it is, is just ridiculous.  If yelling "you suck" during the opening and 1 song is our biggest problem with "inappropriate fans", then I think we are in pretty good shape.... Some fan issues at other schools:

- UW cheer with the eat S**t cheer, heard on national television at the nebraska game last year (football)
- Last year southern miss' band (?) yelling "where's your green card?" to a player
- Duke vs NC State, Duke fans yelled "hows your grandma" to a player whose grandmother just passed away
- West Virginia's notorious fans for being overly vulgar
- There was a game earlier this year where the fans started chanting "you are fat" at Davante.  I think he even smiled since he was killing it during that game.

[jt92]

I can't believe the future of MU Basketball is in the hands of this guy.  Hey Larry, you have more important things to worry about than silly chants by the students. 

[lab_warrior]

+10000000000000000000000000000

Not sure what is more pathetic, the email from LW, or the people whining about the email.

My opinion on both the chant, and LW email:

WHOOOOOOOOOO CARES

http://www.youtube.com/v/ntxKRj9DRnc&fs=1&source=uds


So great to see the "GO GET YOUR PITCHFORK, LARRY WILLIAMS DID SOMETHING!!!", foaming-at-the-mouth-irrational-hatred, Frank Grimes--GRIMEY!, screaming, gnashing-of-teeth, rendering-of-garments crowd return.  KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST THE GREAT STRAW MAN ARGUMENT, GUYS!! 

I only hope he was writing that email while wearing his sweat stained hat (THE HORROR!), just for trolling the faux indignant, self appointed poobahs of MU Scoop.  F*** me, grow up. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

For those ripping on this, suppose I were to tell you the following...just suppose this came from a little birdie...

Suppose the coach of our basketball team thought the chant was uncreative, weak, not becoming of a Catholic or Christian school.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose a number of alumni complained because their younger children are in the audience having to listen to this and they threatened to pull their tickets or not attend as many games.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose this, and other complaints were true and LW was taking the heat as an AD will, rather than having a coach have to make that complaint...keeps the coach "clean" from having to make that appeal to the fans and forces the AD to take a few arrows.

Now, not saying this is how it went down...just suppose.  Many constituencies at the arena, young kids, parents, students, etc. 

[JakeBarnes]

For those ripping on this, suppose I were to tell you the following...just suppose this came from a little birdie...

Suppose the coach of our basketball team thought the chant was uncreative, weak, not becoming of a Catholic or Christian school.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose a number of alumni complained because their younger children are in the audience having to listen to this and they threatened to pull their tickets or not attend as many games.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose this, and other complaints were true and LW was taking the heat as an AD will, rather than having a coach have to make that complaint...keeps the coach "clean" from having to make that appeal to the fans and forces the AD to take a few arrows.

Now, not saying this is how it went down...just suppose.  Many constituencies at the arena, young kids, parents, students, etc. 

Leave logic and economics out of this argument!  You clearly don't understand knee-jerk reaction politics! (I refuse to teal this)

[ChicosBailBonds]

Leave logic and economics out of this argument!  You clearly don't understand knee-jerk reaction politics! (I refuse to teal this)

Love that video in the signature...makes me crack up every time I see it.

[madtownwarrior]

students - why not kill two birds with one stone - the chant should be 'larry williams, you suck'

that would make everybody get what they want, immature, classless rant at person they pin all illogical hate on...

[Jay Bee]

They should replace it with Kumbaya and have all fans hold hands while they band plays.

Promotional giveaway... blue & gold skirts for all the males in attendance.

Please do not wear MU attire to the BC... don't want to make the visiting team feel unwelcome...

Even though Louisville isn't coming to the BC this year, the students should consider chanting "Karen Sypher" during every game.

[Eye]

Wow. Larry should have heard the chants back in the days of Al at the old Arena...

Guy needs to get a life if he's worried about this

Kind of what I was thinking. Shouldn't an AD have more important things to worry about?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

For those ripping on this, suppose I were to tell you the following...just suppose this came from a little birdie...

Suppose the coach of our basketball team thought the chant was uncreative, weak, not becoming of a Catholic or Christian school.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose a number of alumni complained because their younger children are in the audience having to listen to this and they threatened to pull their tickets or not attend as many games.  Would that change your minds?

Suppose this, and other complaints were true and LW was taking the heat as an AD will, rather than having a coach have to make that complaint...keeps the coach "clean" from having to make that appeal to the fans and forces the AD to take a few arrows.

Now, not saying this is how it went down...just suppose.  Many constituencies at the arena, young kids, parents, students, etc. 

Chicos...this would make me Change my opinion, but I think college students should be allowed to be college students. Not everything should come from on high. I'm not saying you disagree, but your point it well taken.

[Sunbelt15]

This thread is "Political Correctness" working hard.

[4everwarriors]

They should replace it with Kumbaya and have all fans hold hands while they band plays.

Promotional giveaway... blue & gold skirts for all the males in attendance.

Please do not wear MU attire to the BC... don't want to make the visiting team feel unwelcome...

Even though Louisville isn't coming to the BC this year, the students should consider chanting "Karen Sypher" during every game.

Don't wave your arms during freethrows and let's not keep score anymore.

[WarhawkWarrior]

Notre Dame I worried about "fan bullying".  It's a national epidemic.

[Tugg Speedman]

Do we think LW came to this conclusion and wrote he email on his own?  Or, more likely, he was asked to write it as AD?  Quit thinking linear by criticizing LW over this.

"You Suck" is unimaginative.  Surely we can steal something another school does that is more interesting. It's what we do best.

[Pakuni]

Durrrr ..... that Larry guy is a real corncob. This is 'merica not russia and  i'll shout "you suck" whenever I please. So badass.

[Goose]

I am happy to see the email. Hopefully LW had a long list of things to get accomplished this year and all are completed and he finally got to #52 on his list. I am looking for a major conference announcement or contract extension for Buzz coming soon. Good work on taking care of the big things and I am OK with LW focusing on smaller issues now. Seriously, doesn't he have better things to be doing with his time?

[IrwinFletcher]

who's dedicated themselves to Jesus Christ and all things good and holy?  

In his post, he mentioned FP.  I assumed that was Father Pilarz.

[Pakuni]

I am happy to see the email. Hopefully LW had a long list of things to get accomplished this year and all are completed and he finally got to #52 on his list. I am looking for a major conference announcement or contract extension for Buzz coming soon. Good work on taking care of the big things and I am OK with LW focusing on smaller issues now. Seriously, doesn't he have better things to be doing with his time?

I'm sure it took LW at least three days of unbroken concentration to come up with this.
Ugh .... if Larry deserves to get ripped for anything here it's giving dimwits something over which to voice their faux outrage. (Like when he dared to suggest MU was a cut above most A-10 programs).
If you're seriously upset that the AD of a religious university sent out an email suggesting students come up with something better than "you suck" then you're a bigger dope than the people just pretending to be upset.

[Goose]

Pakuni

I really do not like the "you suck" and hardly upset or angry. Just saying that college kids do stupid things and that is part of the fun of being a college kid. If LW wants to send out emails to the students everyday I am fine with that. How did you get I was upset over the email? I will add that if this is all he has to focus on these days he has greatest job ever.

[Sir Lawrence]

Pakuni

I really do not like the "you suck" and hardly upset or angry. Just saying that college kids do stupid things and that is part of the fun of being a college kid. If LW wants to send out emails to the students everyday I am fine with that. How did you get I was upset over the email? I will add that if this is all he has to focus on these days he has greatest job ever.

I always thought you had the greatest job ever.   

[Goose]

Sir Lawrence


I did as well until what I saw what LW did yesterday.