Loooserville game thread

[real chili 83]

Because we hate Louisville. Honestly, I really think I hate them more than any other opponent. They just disgust me every time we play them, largely because we either lay a massive egg or get heartbroken. I always thought it was UW and ND, but it's not. It's Louisville. That's why I never want to see them again after we're out of their conference. Because playing them sucks. It sucks on the court, it sucks emotionally, it just sucks.

I never ever want to play them again. It's not worth it. 3-11 the last 14 games? God, why would anyone actually WANT to play them?

Brew, come in off the ledge.

[MattyWarrior]

How can we be so undisiplined, is Pitino that much better of a coach? I realize they have
some 5 star players, but he took Gardner out of the game.

[klyrish]

Hate the vile all u want that guy is right. I didn't expect to win today but wanted more of an effort. This MU team pales in comparison to the previous four or five years. Just an honest assessment. Doesn't make me a hater but a realist.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing. Doesn't change how I/we feel about this loss.

[brewcity77]

I'm not on the ledge, just sickened again.

[GGGG]

Agree. Either play mayo or kick him off the team. I'm fine with either but what they are doing is stupid and doesn't make sense.

He is playing the minutes he deserves to play.  I think people are overrating his ability right now.

[jimmybutlerfanatic]

Woo-Hoo Todd! 2-10 3pt fg now!!!

Blue. 3 - 12 now. Awesome!

[real chili 83]

We will do well this year, when it's all over.  Feel really, really good things ahead in future seasons too.

[JD]

I think van should shoot whenever he wants.. I have zero problems with it.  Kid so our only consistent player.  Where was Gardner all game???

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I thought Otule did pretty well in emergency long minutes today.

[JD]

Blue. 3 - 12 now. Awesome!

Really going to smash Vander?  Why?  Who would you prefer over him?

[forgetful]

How can we be so undisiplined, is Pitino that much better of a coach? I realize they have
some 5 star players, but he took Gardner out of the game.

Frankly it is pretty easy to take Gardner out of the game.  Have a reasonable big fight him for position.  Have the baseline defender hedge over to make the entry pass difficult/impossible.

Box out.

[netty24]

We will do well this year, when it's all over.  Feel really, really good things ahead in future seasons too.

Agreed, we still have a lot going for this team. Lockett has been improving a lot and vander keeps showing consistency. However, If Jamil doesn't get his head out of his ass soon, I think his minutes need to keep decreasing and taylors to keep increasing, as taylor seems at least to be active out there. At some point, Buzz needs to realize that having Jamil out there is detrimental to the team.

[Badgerhater]

Gardner has serious limitations that can be exploited.  He will also never get the benefit of the doubt on any call from the refs for the rest of the year.

[jimmybutlerfanatic]

Blue. 3 - 12 now. Awesome!

3 -13 on 3pt fg, 23.1%. This is why we can't and won't win games. Non-competitive on 3 point shooting. Talk your bs paint touches and making more free throws than your opponent shoots all you want. If you can't knock down some 3 point shots in the 30% range in college ball, you're dead in the water.

P.S. F U Dodds, c-sucker. You 2 PTM.

[Newsdreams]

Blue. 3 - 12 now. Awesome!

Trolling much...

[🏀]

3 -13 on 3pt fg, 23.1%. This is why we can't and won't win games. Non-competitive on 3 point shooting. Talk your bs paint touches and making more free throws than your opponent shoots all you want. If you can't knock down some 3 point shots in the 30% range in college ball, you're dead in the water.

P.S. F U Dodds, c-sucker.

Idiot.

[MattyWarrior]

Otule did what? Blue had more rebounds than he did. He is a barely serviceable big.
As a senior at 6'11' 275 he should be getting at least 8 boards a game and some points
Lets Loserville put an xtra man on the ball cause hes not a threat to score

[mileskishnish72]

Stagnant offense, matador defense - plus got outquicked and, surprisingly, outworked. LV has talent. Not our best day.

[forgetful]

Otule did what? Blue had more rebounds than he did. He is a barely serviceable big.
As a senior at 6'11' 275 he should be getting at least 8 boards a game and some points
Lets Loserville put an xtra man on the ball cause hes not a threat to score

Otule easily outplayed Gardner.  And they don't put another man on the ball.  In fact, Otule has one on him tight and a second/third sagging in to make a post entry pass difficult.  He doesn't score, because the other team sags to defend the paint and dares us to shoot from outside.  If you haven't noticed, shooting from outside tends to be a weakness for us.

[MattyWarrior]

I have a hard time looking at the boxscore, the last 5 games JWill is invisible.
Is he soft or what? He never attacks the basket. Its like 2 guys against 5.
I can stand losing, but whats with the effort and smarts. Our inbounds against
pressure looks like a middle school team trying to get the ball in.

[NickelDimer]

Jamil doesn't have any semblance of a role or identity. When I watch him I never know what he's in there to do, and I'm not sure he knows either

[nyg]

Look, the team had a bad day, six total assists by a team is just brutal.  Everyone did not play up to expectations and it happens.  J. Wilson has been extremely bad in his last couple of games and does need to step it up for team to continue on.

The only MU player that would see playing time on the UL team is Vander.  UL is very talented, has the HS school AA's and they played like it today.

MU is still tied for first in the BE with a 6-2 record and I for one did not anticipate that.  If they throw up a dud like this Weds. against USF, then that would be disappointing.  

[MUCam]

Otule did what? Blue had more rebounds than he did. He is a barely serviceable big.
As a senior at 6'11' 275 he should be getting at least 8 boards a game and some points
Lets Loserville put an xtra man on the ball cause hes not a threat to score

This is such a narrow view of what Otule does or what Marquette does in terms of rebounding.

I am not saying today was great, but Marquette's philosophy is to have the bigs box out and create room for the wings to grab rebounds. A big will not get many rebounds in that type of system.

Otule is usually great at putting a body on opposing bigs, thereby letting our wings get their rebounds. He is also great at using his body to seal off defenders creating lanes for our guards and wings to penetrate.

Today was disasterous all the way around for just about everyone in a MU jersey. Don't be so shallow as to judge Otule on one game and on mere statistics.

[muhoops1]

Otule did what? Blue had more rebounds than he did. He is a barely serviceable big.
As a senior at 6'11' 275 he should be getting at least 8 boards a game and some points
Lets Loserville put an xtra man on the ball cause hes not a threat to score

I agree.  I thought he lacked hustle.  Clearly Dieng is more athletic, but O'Tule was out of position often, didn't box out well, slow on defensive rotations.  I haven't seen them recently, but he doesn't appear to be playing well of late.

[AirPunches]

Personally, I would have liked to see a little more zone today. Would have helped with the rebounding I think, back door cuts, and could have slowed UL down. I would have rather seen them beat us from three in the first half than all of those dunks. It's usually not the first three that kills MU anyway, it's the reload one. It's probably just a personal preference though and I'm sure there was a reason they didn't play any zone.