Haha! Can't wait for the ND game.

[mu-rara]

respected??
good one!

I never said we respected him.  He has many people fooled.

[jeffreyweee]

I wonder what the reaction would be from our fan base if opposing teams had made signs or shouted chants about mistakes our players had made.  Or maybe something about Mayo stemming from his academic issues.

My guess is we wouldn't think it was funny at all.

The people who do stuff like this really makes me scared for our future....

Yeah, because this is the only generation that has dumb young kids.

[wadesworld]

Didn't know two classless acts make it classy...

Explain how poking fun at Manti T'eo is classless?  If he truly had no knowledge of it being anything besides a sincere relationship then why did his parents talk about them meeting in 2009?  Why did he say they met after they played at Stanford?  Why is he still answering questions about her AFTER he knew it was a "hoax?"  Why is his own teammate telling the media that he overhyped it all, that he knew she was never a girlfriend, that he played it all up for the attention, etc.  I'm not saying people need to rip on him, but to claim they are the classless people is flat out wrong.  Like it was brought up before, nobody was hurt or died in the situation.  There was no sexual assault, no murder, no life ruined.  Nobody who is poking fun of him is a sick human being.  The sick human being is the person who, at the very least, played along with a story about somebody he "loved" dying.

[🏀]

Nor should he

I meant athletic department, but it works both ways.

Let the students have fun with it, but the University itself alike not be supporting an act as such.

[wadesworld]

I next athletic department, but it works both ways.

Let the students have fun with it, but the University itself alike not be supporting an act as such.

Agreed.  I don't expect the university to set something up, but it is far from classless for the fans to do something.  Again, Manti T'eo is the classless person.

[WarriorInNYC]

Explain how poking fun at Manti T'eo is classless?  If he truly had no knowledge of it being anything besides a sincere relationship then why did his parents talk about them meeting in 2009?  Why did he say they met after they played at Stanford?  Why is he still answering questions about her AFTER he knew it was a "hoax?"  Why is his own teammate telling the media that he overhyped it all, that he knew she was never a girlfriend, that he played it all up for the attention, etc.  I'm not saying people need to rip on him, but to claim they are the classless people is flat out wrong.  Like it was brought up before, nobody was hurt or died in the situation.  There was no sexual assault, no murder, no life ruined.  Nobody who is poking fun of him is a sick human being.  The sick human being is the person who, at the very least, played along with a story about somebody he "loved" dying.

My opinion on what happened (take it for whatever its worth).... he actually got hoaxed, but years ago, found out about it, and didn't bother telling anyone about it because he was kinda embarrassed.  Then as ND's biggest game of the year rolls around (against Michigan State) Te'o and Tuisasopo (or however you spell it) decide to take it a little further and she "coincidentally" "dies" on the same day as his grandmother.

After reading another article about the girl he actually dated right after his fake girlfriend died (http://www.playerwives.com/miscellaneous-sports/ncaa/manti-teos-real-girlfriend-alexandra-del-pilar/) I'm not buying it.  Here is the star of ND's defense, pretty much has his picking from that school, and he dates someone online for 3 years and never meets her? Not buying it.

[JD]

I wonder what the reaction would be from our fan base if opposing teams had made signs or shouted chants about mistakes our players had made.  Or maybe something about Mayo stemming from his academic issues.

My guess is we wouldn't think it was funny at all.

The people who do stuff like this really makes me scared for our future....

Making fun of Mayo for academics?  How do you even compare these two stories, Te'o is garbage, and Mayo struggles academically and always has.  Not sure i see any resemblance.  That's like making fun of special needs kids, or students who struggles to read.

Making fun of Vander for punching Joe Skino is fair game. He shouldn't have done that.  I wouldn't find it offensive at all.

[wadesworld]

My opinion on what happened (take it for whatever its worth).... he actually got hoaxed, but years ago, found out about it, and didn't bother telling anyone about it because he was kinda embarrassed.  Then as ND's biggest game of the year rolls around (against Michigan State) Te'o and Tuisasopo (or however you spell it) decide to take it a little further and she "coincidentally" "dies" on the same day as his grandmother.

After reading another article about the girl he actually dated right after his fake girlfriend died (http://www.playerwives.com/miscellaneous-sports/ncaa/manti-teos-real-girlfriend-alexandra-del-pilar/) I'm not buying it.  Here is the star of ND's defense, pretty much has his picking from that school, and he dates someone online for 3 years and never meets her? Not buying it.

Yeah, not buying it for one second.

[Golden Avalanche]

Yeah, because over the summer he organized the hoax to get a true defensive player into the Heisman race. I'm sure he was thinking, hey, I've made one interception in my career to date, but I think I plan on intercepting 7 this year - an unheard of number for an inside linebacker - and really get my name in the mix. Plus, even though ND has lost at least 5 games my first three years, and our QB situation is a mess, I really think we're going to run the table and go undefeated this season and get to the BCS title game, which will also increase my chances to get in the Heisman race. Oh, and even better yet, wouldn't it be awesome if my grandmother died during the season to gain some sympathy? And let's go even further and create a fake girlfriend that I'll lie about to garner even more sympathy that will for sure put me in the Heisman race 3 games into the season.

Come on man, there's not enough pot in the world to make up such an elaborate hoax "to garner sympathy" for the Heisman voters. The guy got scammed.

While it looks more and more that Te'o was only half involved don't discount the Heisman angle.

Pete Thamel said on the Dan Patrick show that he voted for Te'o because of the personal tragedies he overcame through his play and felt that many of his colleagues did just the same.

[Blue Horseshoe]

You do realize that this kind of stuff isn't handled by their Marketing Department right?

According to the original post, it was alleged that MU would be responsible. Thus, "This sums up my expectations of MU (and their marketing dept.)."

[Norm]

For all those saying that Teo is "garbage", "classless", and whatever else you want to call him, would it have made a difference if the Deadspin story didn't have the line where a friend of the guy who sprang the hoax tells the authors that he is "80 percent sure that Teo was in on it"? When questioned on it, the authors say they have no evidence and they are just going on the one guy's take who wasnt even involved in it.

There is not a shred of evidence that Teo was in on it, the guy who pulled it off says that Teo was not a part of the hoax, the same guy who fooled Teo has scammed 2 other people before like this, there are over 110 calls over an hour long from Teo to the number of what he thought was a real girl (quite a phone bill to pull off the scam on Teo's part), Teo's Bishop in the Mormon church says he talked to her, many of his teammates talked to her, and his parents talked to her. He has admitted to lying to his dad about actually meeting her at the Stanford game (and no, his dad never said he met her) because he was embarrassed he met her online and had never actually met her. Should he have admitted he got scammed at the Heisman trophy presentation 2 days after he received the phone call from her number on Dec. 6? Maybe, but think of how that would have come across - think Manziel would have liked being the 2nd story after his own win? Should he have told the media before the BCS game? Maybe, but think about the distraction that would have caused preparing for the game.

Again, how was a defensive player going to use a story like this to win the Heisman? Overcoming his grandmother's death was enough of a story - he didn't need a dead girlfriend to embellish it. He never would have even been considered without the 7 interceptions - which increased his career total to 8 by the way - and more than 110 tackles, both unheard of for an inside linebacker. He also could never have counted on an undefeated season going into the BCS game, Matt Barkley playing like crap, Denard Robinson playing mediocre, and many other pre-season Heisman hopefuls - of which he was not one - not playing up to Heisman standards. Heck, he didn't even come that close to Manziel who won the race pretty much after A&M beat Alabama.

So Teo could have been more forthcoming after Dec.6 or Dec. 26, but that does not make him garbage or classless, it makes him embarrassed for being duped.

[Lennys Tap]

While it looks more and more that Te'o was only half involved don't discount the Heisman angle.

Pete Thamel said on the Dan Patrick show that he voted for Te'o because of the personal tragedies he overcame through his play and felt that many of his colleagues did just the same.

If real Gramma dying got Te'o into a dead heat with Manzel and imaginary girlfriend dying put him over the top in Pete Thamel's mind it says a lot - about Pete Thamel.

[chapman]

MU shouldn't, and won't have any involvement.  It would actually be kind of a letdown if the students didn't do anything.  Doubt it'll rival "Where's my laptop!" but it could surpass the "trailer trash" chants Devendorf got.

[wadesworld]

For all those saying that Teo is "garbage", "classless", and whatever else you want to call him, would it have made a difference if the Deadspin story didn't have the line where a friend of the guy who sprang the hoax tells the authors that he is "80 percent sure that Teo was in on it"? When questioned on it, the authors say they have no evidence and they are just going on the one guy's take who wasnt even involved in it.

There is not a shred of evidence that Teo was in on it, the guy who pulled it off says that Teo was not a part of the hoax, the same guy who fooled Teo has scammed 2 other people before like this, there are over 110 calls over an hour long from Teo to the number of what he thought was a real girl (quite a phone bill to pull off the scam on Teo's part), Teo's Bishop in the Mormon church says he talked to her, many of his teammates talked to her, and his parents talked to her. He has admitted to lying to his dad about actually meeting her at the Stanford game (and no, his dad never said he met her) because he was embarrassed he met her online and had never actually met her. Should he have admitted he got scammed at the Heisman trophy presentation 2 days after he received the phone call from her number on Dec. 6? Maybe, but think of how that would have come across - think Manziel would have liked being the 2nd story after his own win? Should he have told the media before the BCS game? Maybe, but think about the distraction that would have caused preparing for the game.

Again, how was a defensive player going to use a story like this to win the Heisman? Overcoming his grandmother's death was enough of a story - he didn't need a dead girlfriend to embellish it. He never would have even been considered without the 7 interceptions - which increased his career total to 8 by the way - and more than 110 tackles, both unheard of for an inside linebacker. He also could never have counted on an undefeated season going into the BCS game, Matt Barkley playing like crap, Denard Robinson playing mediocre, and many other pre-season Heisman hopefuls - of which he was not one - not playing up to Heisman standards. Heck, he didn't even come that close to Manziel who won the race pretty much after A&M beat Alabama.

So Teo could have been more forthcoming after Dec.6 or Dec. 26, but that does not make him garbage or classless, it makes him embarrassed for being duped.

OK, let's pretend that T'eo had no idea he was being duped.  Let's pretend he really believed he was talking to a real girl and he really believed that she died of lukemia the same day that his grandmother died.  Let's then read this article:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8854472/teammate-manti-teo-says-player-played-girlfriend-angle

Does that make Manti T'eo worse than if he had participated in a story about a fake person who died?  The guy used the death of someone he believed to be a real person to increase his publicity.  He loved the spotlight, pointing himself out when he was on TV to his teammates and friends.  He, and his teammates, knew that the person (who they believed to be real) was not nearly T'eo's girlfriend, but T'eo saw an opportunity to look strong, took the story, and he ran with it.  He used the DEATH of somebody he believed to be a real person to put a bigger spotlight on himself.  That is sick.  Disgusting.  Sad.  Disturbing.

[Norm]

Think what you want Wade, I'm not going to change your mind, but would you tell that to Teo himself? In person? Would you tell him he is sick and disgusting and a piece of garbage? Or is it only in the safety of an anonymous online message board that you are willing to cast dispersions on a person?

And one anonymous teammate's claim is enough to satisfy your doubts? What about all the other teammates who called out that guy and have come to Teo's defense? Do their voices or opinions count? Not to you. Go ahead and think the worst of Teo if that makes you feel better. I just hope you and nobody in you family ever gets scammed by any con men.

[BrewCity83]

Whatever you believe T'eo knew or didn't know, he's still is fare game for some big time mockery.  Especially because he's a Domer.

[warriorchick]

Whatever you believe T'eo knew or didn't know, he's still is fare game for some big time mockery.  Especially because he's a Domer.

Not the least of which is that someone who is "smart enough" to go to Notre Dame was stupid enough to fall for this.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I meant athletic department, but it works both ways.

Let the students have fun with it, but the University itself alike not be supporting an act as such.

We are on the same page.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I wonder what the reaction would be from our fan base if opposing teams had made signs or shouted chants about mistakes our players had made.  Or maybe something about Mayo stemming from his academic issues.

My guess is we wouldn't think it was funny at all.

The people who do stuff like this really makes me scared for our future....

I think you are correct.

[77ncaachamps]

[MUSF]

OK, let's pretend that T'eo had no idea he was being duped.  Let's pretend he really believed he was talking to a real girl and he really believed that she died of lukemia the same day that his grandmother died.  Let's then read this article:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8854472/teammate-manti-teo-says-player-played-girlfriend-angle

Does that make Manti T'eo worse than if he had participated in a story about a fake person who died?  The guy used the death of someone he believed to be a real person to increase his publicity.  He loved the spotlight, pointing himself out when he was on TV to his teammates and friends.  He, and his teammates, knew that the person (who they believed to be real) was not nearly T'eo's girlfriend, but T'eo saw an opportunity to look strong, took the story, and he ran with it.  He used the DEATH of somebody he believed to be a real person to put a bigger spotlight on himself.  That is sick.  Disgusting.  Sad.  Disturbing.

Wow, you're right. This guy totally deserves public mockery and humiliation from a Catholic institution of higher learning. He's so disgusting that I wish Marquette could come up with more ways to publicly humiliate him. Fake big heads and kiss cams just isn't enough. Maybe we could get him free courtside seats to a game then show him on the jumbotron while everyone cheers, and just when he stands up to wave to the crowd, Larry Williams could dump pigs blood on him from the rafters. THAT would show him!

Seriously Wades, your vitriol directed at a 22 year old that, AT WORST, made up a fake girlfriend to improve his fake relationship with the media and fans, is more disgusting to me than anything Teo did. His fake girlfriend simply provides a reflection of the fake relationship we have with athletes and celebs. That is the only reason you or anyone else could be truly mad and disgusted by his actions; because his situation shattered the illusion. Go live your life and stop getting all lathered up about some other dude's fake girlfriend.

[🏀]

Teo is a piece of crap and deserves everything he gets.

You Domer football fans need to lay off wades, his view on the most popular subject in all the news is in the vast majority.

[MUSF]

Teo is a piece of crap and deserves everything he gets.

You Domer football fans need to lay off wades, his view on the most popular subject in all the news is in the vast majority.

For the record, I hate ND football...

but it's sports, not real life. I don't actually hate athletes, coaches, actors, or singers because I don't actually know them. I certainly hope my alma mater can show some perspective and class by not throwing proverbial feces at the latest celebrity we've decided to collectively hate and shame. Besides, there will just be a new one next week.

[setyoursightsnorth]

Clever but the ND game is over 5 weeks away. This story will likely be old news by then.

I think it's already old news and I would love it if the whole thing just went the hell away. I'm tired of hearing about him and this whole fiasco that isn't going to impact his draft status one bit.

[🏀]

I think it's already old news and I would love it if the whole thing just went the hell away. I'm tired of hearing about him and this whole fiasco that isn't going to impact his draft status one bit.

His draft position will change when the NFL teams hire real investigators to do real investigations, unlike Notre Dame.