Buzz on postgame when Davante went down to the floor hard on an obvious missed

[muguru]

The official told him "The ball knocked him down". Un F'n real.

[cheebs09]

I didn't know they switched in a medicine ball.

[Norm]

Didn't see the play...was the ball at Davante's feet? Only thing that would make sense for the ref to say that.

[77ncaachamps]

The official told him "The ball knocked him down". Un F'n real.

The 280 lb. ball, btw.

[boyonthedock]

The ref is essentially saying he flopped. Its still a dick thing to say.

[brewcity77]

Rubles literally flew into him. Inexcusable.

[MU82]

Fact 1: The refs blew the call.

Fact 2: It didn't cost us the game.

[jsglow]

No flop.  He got hit pretty hard chest to chest.  Refs didn't see it apparently.

[GoldenZebra]

Fact 1: The refs blew the call.

Fact 2: It didn't cost us the game.

It didnt cost us the game but it had the potential to put MU up two points...which by the time the game ended, we were down by...two points.

[77ncaachamps]

Rubles literally flew into him. Inexcusable.

Even some Bearcat posters mentioned that Rubles flew out at him and UC lucked out not getting called on it.

[DCWarriors04]

Buzz has all the rights to be upset...officiating was horrible tonight, and while I won't say it cost us the game, it certainly aided Cincy.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It didnt cost us the game but it had the potential to put MU up two points...which by the time the game ended, we were down by...two points.

All true, but we also missed a mountain of free throws and regular shots during the game which could have made that play moot.

[MU82]

I understand why some might want to blame the refs, and this play in particular, but there were lots and lots and lots of plays in that game that one could say made the difference.

For instance, we're up 3 in OT and Mayo looks like he has a steal and dunk for a 5-pt lead. But he doesn't quite make the steal, we foul and it's a 1-point game.

Another instance: Gardner overthrew a pass that, if accurate, would have given us a 2-on-1 break. I don't think the ref made Gardner do that.

And as Chicos said, lots of missed FTs.

Probably another dozen difference-making plays I could think of off the top of my head.

Stuff happens. Very, very, VERY rarely is it the ref's fault.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

What about the Jamil box-out call?

Where was the foul on that?

[ATWizJr]

Our defense was poor.
Our FT shooting was substandard.
We dug ourselves to deep a hole.

[jsglow]

I understand why some might want to blame the refs, and this play in particular, but there were lots and lots and lots of plays in that game that one could say made the difference.

For instance, we're up 3 in OT and Mayo looks like he has a steal and dunk for a 5-pt lead. But he doesn't quite make the steal, we foul and it's a 1-point game.

Another instance: Gardner overthrew a pass that, if accurate, would have given us a 2-on-1 break. I don't think the ref made Gardner do that.

And as Chicos said, lots of missed FTs.

Probably another dozen difference-making plays I could think of off the top of my head.

Stuff happens. Very, very, VERY rarely is it the ref's fault.

I thought that 'almost' steal in the OT was absolutely huge.  Mayo would have had a breakaway and we would have led b 5.  In the end, our free throw shooting kept us alive.  But Cincy was simply outstanding from the line all night.

[avid1010]

Fact 1: The refs blew the call.

Fact 2: It didn't cost us the game.

It very well could have cost us the game...as could about a dozen or two different things tonight, but that was certainly one of them.

[chapman]

Perhaps Buzz's next question should have been where the cannonball came from.

[karavotsos]

Just wanted to add Justin Jackson's 'injured wrist' to the list of events. 

[Gato78]

"The refs didn't cost us the game" is a big stinking pile of coach speak. Of course officials can cost a team a game--just like the other plays in the game. If you ever played a sport, at any level, and you got jobbed by a call, there are two givens: 1. you will never forget the play and the call; and, 2. you will never say the refs cannot cost us a game.

[AirPunches]

I don't feel like watching the game again but does anyone remember when Gardner got fouled and they gave the guy his first foul instead of fouling the other guy out when the guy with no fouls didn't even touch him. I thought that was a cheap call.

[GoldenZebra]

I don't feel like watching the game again but does anyone remember when Gardner got fouled and they gave the guy his first foul instead of fouling the other guy out when the guy with no fouls didn't even touch him. I thought that was a cheap call.

It was when Blue launched a 3, and Gardner got the board and was going for a shot when #33 got his arm all around Gardner, and they gave the guy (Rubles I think) who was standing with his arms in the air not even touching Gardner the foul. Announcers even said it was a foul on#33 and NOT Rubles. Officials were near the area so they clearly saw the foul committed by 33.

[MUBurrow]

there are always a ton of plays you could have made to win a game. but that doesnt mean that the refs didnt totally blow it then act like total cocks about afterwards, evidently.

[MU82]

In life, we control what we can.

Marquette could have played better defense on Kilpatrick on the final play.

Gardner could have avoided throwing the ball out of bounds, a play that cost Marquette a 2-on-1 break.

Marquette could have limited Cincinnati to fewer than 14 offensive rebounds.

Jamil, Blue and others could have avoided committing fouls 40 feet away from the basket.

Marquette could have made a 3-pointer in the first half instead of going 0-for-9.

Players not named Davante could make more free throws.

And so on and so on.

Of course, bad officiating impacts a game. I never said otherwise. If Buzz accurately relayed what that ref said about that should-have-been foul call, that ref was a jerk and should be censured by the league. But every single game will have missed calls and most games will have missed calls in huge situations. We can't control those as fans and the players can't control those on the court.

What the players can control are situations such as those stated above. It's a crutch and a cop-out to blame losses on the refs when any of 5 or 10 or 20 or 30 things players or coaches could have done better would have had as much impact if not more.

[AirPunches]

One more thing. Out of bounds play, 1 second on shot clock. Basically gave cincy a timeout and gave them the chance to set something up. Whether they can do that isn't what irritated me, it was the announcer complaining because it gave MU a chance to set their defense. What? Also, it's been brought up here but Marquette was not in a box and 1! There was no box! As bad as the officials were, the announcers were worse. I guess that's what happens when there are so many games on tv but man we got stuck with the jv team tonight in the booth.