Manti Te'o a fraud?

[Dish]

This is insane. Don't you think the NFL interviews will tear this crap apart?

NFL teams will be the one's who really dig up and uncover this story. Most NFL background checks are done by former FBI guys.

I normally like Jeremy Schapp, but he seems duped.

[Dish]

"He hopes this simmers down and this story just goes away."

Sure, any time you do an interview, off camera, with specific terms, with inconsistencies, almost blowing up twitter, it'll just go away.

I'm sure my mortgage will just go away.

[GGGG]

He is clearly a narcissist.  I cant imagine that unless he is a super star, which he isnt, that NFL teams will want to put up with this.

[TallTitan34]

I wish he would have asked Teo about his actual girlfriend he had days after the girl he loved died.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264753/Manti-Teos-REAL-girlfriend-Football-star-dated-student-just-weeks-heartbreaking-death-hoax-lover-dont-look-alike.htm

[Pakuni]

The Smoking Gun makes a pretty compelling case that Te'o was a rube, not the mastermind of a hoax.
Lots of people have already made up their minds, and that's fine. I suspect a distaste for all things Notre Dame plays into that, which also is fine.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/manti-teo-rube-984703

[Blackhat]

Pretty obvious he was duped and then he embellished their relationship due to not wanting people to know it was only an online relationship and they never met.

Definitely embarrassing for the kid but I can think of a sh.t ton of worse things a 20 year old could and have done as far as interfering with the public good.

[MerrittsMustache]

Pretty obvious he was duped and then he embellished their relationship due to not wanting people to know it was only an online relationship and they never met.

And also because it brought him a ton of media attention.

[Blackhat]

MU grad Brian Hardin out at ND, takes job as deputy AD of external affairs at Ball State.

Possible fall out from Teo situation.

[Blackhat]

ESPN's @JeremySchapp: Unverified phone records suggest Te'o on phone w/person he thought was Kekua for 110 calls of > hour

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ESPN's @JeremySchapp: Unverified phone records suggest Te'o on phone w/person he thought was Kekua for 110 calls of > hour

Dude likes to talk to his boyfriend, what's the big deal?

[jesmu84]

So, apparently manti made the 600+ phone calls/thousands of hours all while talking to tuiasosopo the whole time. Wow. How do you not know the voice on the other end is a guy? I'm not saying he is, but this certainly points more to the plausibility of a gay cover story. That, or teo has to be one of the dumbest people alive.

[Hards Alumni]

So, apparently manti made the 600+ phone calls/thousands of hours all while talking to tuiasosopo the whole time. Wow. How do you not know the voice on the other end is a guy? I'm not saying he is, but this certainly points more to the plausibility of a gay cover story. That, or teo has to be one of the dumbest people alive.

Really it seems like he is both.

[ChicosBailBonds]

So, apparently manti made the 600+ phone calls/thousands of hours all while talking to tuiasosopo the whole time. Wow. How do you not know the voice on the other end is a guy? I'm not saying he is, but this certainly points more to the plausibility of a gay cover story. That, or teo has to be one of the dumbest people alive.

I was watching Dan Patrick this morning as he interviewed Katie Couric.  She said she listened to many of the voicemails and the voice sounded like a woman.  Take it for what is worth, but in her opinion if it was a guy then he did a great job of portraying the voice as a woman.

[Blackhat]

Definitely sounds like/really is a chick.     assumptions have proven to be dumb in this weird case.

Voicemails from girlfriend
http://deadspin.com/5978713/

[ChicosBailBonds]

I know people want to bury this guy as dumb or whatever, mostly because he is a ND guy and people thrive on that.  Plenty of really smart people have been duped before whether it is Bernie Madoff and of those bilked, the old days of Candid Camera or Punk'd, you name it and smart people have been fooled.  Hell, how many spouses have been fooled by their spouse, sometimes for years, on how faithful they were, etc.?

I have no doubt that Manti covered some things up and embellished, but the more and more that I see out of this it is certainly a possibility (maybe a strong one), that he was hoaxed for quite some time. Then, upon realizing it and also seeing how it was playing out for him, he ran with it.  That's how it looks to me, but the every day there seems to be another log thrown on the fire.

[Groin_pull]

I know people want to bury this guy as dumb or whatever, mostly because he is a ND guy and people thrive on that.  Plenty of really smart people have been duped before whether it is Bernie Madoff and of those bilked, the old days of Candid Camera or Punk'd, you name it and smart people have been fooled.  Hell, how many spouses have been fooled by their spouse, sometimes for years, on how faithful they were, etc.?

I have no doubt that Manti covered some things up and embellished, but the more and more that I see out of this it is certainly a possibility (maybe a strong one), that he was hoaxed for quite some time. Then, upon realizing it and also seeing how it was playing out for him, he ran with it.  That's how it looks to me, but the every day there seems to be another log thrown on the fire.

Duped for three years? Never attempted to see her? Didn't visit her in the hospital? Didn't attend her funeral? Yet this was the love of his life? Wow.

I have no idea if T'eo is smart or stupid...but he does appear to have serious mental and/or emotional problems. And yes, I'm enjoying this story because it involves ND. As I've mentioned, I've never run across a more arrogant, holier-than-thou group than NDers. Anything that knocks them down a few pegs is fine by me.

Also, I get a kick out of NDers whining about how this T'eo story won't die. Just imagine if T'eo had attended USC (as he was close to doing)...NDers would be taking unbelievable joy in fanning the flames.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

T'eo is smart or stupid


People I know from Hawaii that know him say that on the naive bar he is about a 2%.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Duped for three years? Never attempted to see her? Didn't visit her in the hospital? Didn't attend her funeral? Yet this was the love of his life? Wow.

I have no idea if T'eo is smart or stupid...but he does appear to have serious mental and/or emotional problems. And yes, I'm enjoying this story because it involves ND. As I've mentioned, I've never run across a more arrogant, holier-than-thou group than NDers. Anything that knocks them down a few pegs is fine by me.

Also, I get a kick out of NDers whining about how this T'eo story won't die. Just imagine if T'eo had attended USC (as he was close to doing)...NDers would be taking unbelievable joy in fanning the flames.

Wasn't aware of the 3 year timeline.  Haven't followed it close enough, but I thought he denied it was anything more than about 14 to 16 months.  I thought it was interesting that Couric (who I don't like) thought he was hoaxed, at least partially.  I guess I need more data still, but ESPN and USATODAY were suggesting today that his story seems to be holding up.  Again, for whatever that is worth. 

[4everwarriors]

Any dude who hasn't once attempted to get into the pants of his girlfriend of 3 years, needs an immediate head examination of his own.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Any dude who hasn't once attempted to get into the pants of his girlfriend of 3 years, needs an immediate head examination of his own.

Tim Tebow

[JWags85]

Any dude who hasn't once attempted to get into the pants of his girlfriend of 3 years, needs an immediate head examination of his own.

Any dude who calls someone the love of their life and sleeps with the phone connected and next to his head, but wouldn't think to go to their funeral, is either in need of professional psychological treatment, or more likely, an f-ing liar.

[GGGG]

I know people want to bury this guy as dumb or whatever, mostly because he is a ND guy and people thrive on that. 

And you know why people "thrive on that?"  This is why...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-23/manti-te-o-joins-notre-dame-s-long-tradition-of-hooey.html

And believe me, I hate it in all sports.  There are very few sports-writers I like who cut through the crap to really get to the heart of what they are writing about.  And as a Packer fan, I know full well about this and Vince Lombardi.  Great football coach, but pretty much a turd of a human being...and I don't want anyone to use him as an example of being a great "leader."

[ChicosBailBonds]

And you know why people "thrive on that?"  This is why...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-23/manti-te-o-joins-notre-dame-s-long-tradition-of-hooey.html

And believe me, I hate it in all sports.  There are very few sports-writers I like who cut through the crap to really get to the heart of what they are writing about.  And as a Packer fan, I know full well about this and Vince Lombardi.  Great football coach, but pretty much a turd of a human being...and I don't want anyone to use him as an example of being a great "leader."

Good read, thanks.

[MU82]

Te'o already has admitted to being a liar, including lies he told to his own father.

He obviously isn't the brightest bulb in the box.

And as a few pointed out, he's a helluva boyfriend if he doesn't even think about attending the funeral of the love of his life.

I keep thinking the story should just go away ... but then something crazier comes out and I find myself paying attention again. So shame on me, too!

[warriorchick]

And now, there's this:


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/01/30/ronaiah_tuiasosopo_dr_phil_manti_te_o_s_hoaxer_apparently_was_in_love_with.html