Catholic 7 12th member

[brewcity77]

7th isnt really on the list

Well, considering Notre Dame, BYU, and Gonzaga won't be in the mix, you can move them up a slot.

Though with a 5a in there, I suppose they're still 7th

[RTutton]

VCUBoy22's list:

1) VCU
2) Duke
3) Kentucky
4) Indiana
5) Syracuse

[vcuboy22]

VCUBoy22's list:

1) VCU
2) Duke
3) Kentucky
4) Indiana
5) Syracuse

Ofcourse though Marquette is 7th though 

[dwaderoy2004]

Gonzaga
Xavier
Butler
Creighton
VCU
Dayton
SLU

[VCUfanURgrad]

Having been on a lot of the C7 message boards, how I see the average C7 list:

1. Xavier
2. Butler
3. Creighton
4. Dayton
5. SLU
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6. VCU

From the VCU fans perspective:

1. Butler
2. Xavier
3. Dayton
4. Creighton
5. VCU
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6. SLU

From FOX's perspective

1. Creighton
2. Butler
3. VCU
4. Xavier
5. Dayton
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6. Gonzaga

[dwaderoy2004]

I find it hard to believe that is Fox's perspective. 

[Aughnanure]

From FOX's perspective

1. Creighton
2. Butler
3. VCU
4. Xavier
5. Dayton
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6. Gonzaga

Umm, what?

[VCUfanURgrad]

I find it hard to believe that is Fox's perspective.  

I don't think FOX cares about anything but ratings.  Right now, that is the order the teams appear in the AP rankings with Xavier and Dayton being a great rivalry that they would want to keep if possible.  History has a little to do with it, but in this constantly changing conference landscape, it all what have you done for me lately (as far as viewership is concerned).

Gonzaga is out only because I don't really think anyone expects the new conference to play olympic sports on the west coast.  FOX would like to have them in a heart beat, but I think even they understand that it's too cost prohibitive.

[vcuboy22]

Hope Fox likes us as much as u say

[🏀]

I don't think FOX cares about anything but ratings.  Right now, that is the order the teams appear in the AP rankings with Xavier and Dayton being a great rivalry that they would want to keep if possible.  History has a little to do with it, but in this constantly changing conference landscape, it all what have you done for me lately (as far as viewership is concerned).

Gonzaga is out only because I don't really think anyone expects the new conference to play olympic sports on the west coast.  FOX would like to have them in a heart beat, but I think even they understand that it's too cost prohibitive.

FOX doesn't give a damn about a X/Dayton rivalry. Two games that will only provide an already small, over-lapped market.

FOX would take Gonzaga over anyone else and tell the conference to deal with the other sports.

[real chili 83]

I have a headache now.

[vcuboy22]

U guys see this http://marquettetribune.org/2013/01/15/news/marquette-to-help-found-new-conference-with-catholic-seven/

     Williams said July 1, 2014 is a realistic goal for withdrawal, but he hopes to finish a deal in time to legally leave the Big East by July 1, 2013.
Williams said the Catholic Seven hope to build their conference with "schools that are committed to competitive excellence, primarily in men's basketball, and also competitive excellence across a number of other team sports."

Other sports that Williams said he will value highly in prospective additions to the Catholic Seven will include women's basketball, men's and women's soccer and volleyball.

In recent weeks, universities such as Gonzaga, Dayton, Virginia Commonwealth and St. Louis have been reported as good fits for the Catholic Seven's specifications. Additionally, Williams mentioned Xavier and Butler by name as particularly logical potential members.

He also did not rule out the possibility of including non-Catholic and public schools (such as Butler), as long as their athletic programs fit the bill.

"I don't think religious affiliation, historic or current, will be determinative of someone's fit in the conference," Williams said. "One need not be religiously affiliated to be committed to excellence."

However, Williams did all but dispel the rumors regarding the inclusion of Connecticut and Cincinnati, as both universities have Division I FBS football programs. Since the Catholic Seven's conference will likely be composed of non-football schools, Connecticut and Cincinnati would likely need to play football as independents if they were to join.

[real chili 83]

I am drinking now.

[vcuboy22]

I am drinking now.

DONT!!!!!!!

[brewcity77]

FOX doesn't give a damn about a X/Dayton rivalry. Two games that will only provide an already small, over-lapped market.

FOX would take Gonzaga over anyone else and tell the conference to deal with the other sports.

If it's all about ratings, X, Butler, and Gonzaga are the top three with Creighton and VCU behind them. SLU may have the market size and Dayton the fan support, but neither move the dial nationally.

Though in this league, both have significant upside long-term, possibly more than either Butler or VCU if Stevens and Smart left.

[vcuboy22]

If it's all about ratings, X, Butler, and Gonzaga are the top three with Creighton and VCU behind them. SLU may have the market size and Dayton the fan support, but neither move the dial nationally.

Though in this league, both have significant upside long-term, possibly more than either Butler or VCU if Stevens and Smart left.

Just talked to Shaka and he said he'll stay through 2999

[The Process]

I am drinking now.

Me too.  I will also be doing so during the game tomorrow...

Just talked to Shaka and he said he'll stay through 2999

So tonight we're gonna party like it's 2999...?

[🏀]

If it's all about ratings, X, Butler, and Gonzaga are the top three with Creighton and VCU behind them. SLU may have the market size and Dayton the fan support, but neither move the dial nationally.

Though in this league, both have significant upside long-term, possibly more than either Butler or VCU if Stevens and Smart left.

Agreed on all accounts.

The Dayton/X rivalry is closer to MU/DePaul than it is MU/Wisconsin. Dayton fans are serious about it, X is not so much.

[Aughnanure]

If it's all about ratings, X, Butler, and Gonzaga are the top three with Creighton and VCU behind them. SLU may have the market size and Dayton the fan support, but neither move the dial nationally.

Though in this league, both have significant upside long-term, possibly more than either Butler or VCU if Stevens and Smart left.

I think you may be wrong on Dayton. The market may not be huge, but they draw ridiculously good ratings in it.

[vcuboy22]

I think you may be wrong on Dayton. The market may not be huge, but they draw ridiculously good ratings in it.

Vcu as well draws great ratings #Havoc

[Avenue Commons]

A few random thoughts based on no source:

I wouldn't be shocked to see Notre Dame in the C7+.

TV $$$ will dictate the league membership as much as anything.

DePaul is beginning to waken from its slumber with a new stadium.

[🏀]

Vcu as well draws great ratings #Havoc

Why are you hashtagging on here? Not applicable.

[The Process]

Why are you hashtagging on here? Not applicable.

[brewcity77]

I think you may be wrong on Dayton. The market may not be huge, but they draw ridiculously good ratings in it.

Locally, sure. I think both Dayton and VCU draw great local ratings, but can they draw neutral eyes 1,000 miles away? At the moment I think VCU draws more neutral eyes.

Regardless, with no Gonzaga, I would take both Dayton and VCU. I just feel SLU is less of a proven commodity than the rest of our options.

[vcuboy22]

Locally, sure. I think both Dayton and VCU draw great local ratings, but can they draw neutral eyes 1,000 miles away? At the moment I think VCU draws more neutral eyes.

Regardless, with no Gonzaga, I would take both Dayton and VCU. I just feel SLU is less of a proven commodity than the rest of our options.

Ya i think dayton is over SLU in my opinoun