Cincy and UConn to join C7?

[MUfan12]

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4719

[GGGG]

Hmmmm.....

I don't want Aresco involved, but from a basketball product point of view, this would be the best option out there. 

I just don't want to go overboard on football members though.  UConn and UC?  I can live with that.  But draw the line there.  No Memphis.  No Temple.

[MUfan12]

Hmmmm.....

I don't want Aresco involved, but from a basketball product point of view, this would be the best option out there. 

I just don't want to go overboard on football members though.  UConn and UC?  I can live with that.  But draw the line there.  No Memphis.  No Temple.

Totally agree. That would be a great basketball league.

[BrewCity83]

But what happens when the ACC gets raided again and calls UCONN and Cincy?

[Pakuni]

About all that Xavier/Butler/Creighton leverage .....

[Pakuni]

But what happens when the ACC gets raided again and calls UCONN and Cincy?

That question is addressed in the story:

For the Catholic schools, there would be little risk if UConn and Cincinnati were taken by the ACC, since a solid base of 10 all basketball schools would remain and could be replaced with other solid schools such as Creighton, George Mason or VCU.

[Hards Alumni]

I'd tell them to take a hike unless they drop football.  Or put the buyout price so high they could never leave.

[Dawson Rental]

That question is addressed in the story:

For the Catholic schools, there would be little risk if UConn and Cincinnati were taken by the ACC, since a solid base of 10 all basketball schools would remain and could be replaced with other solid schools such as Creighton, George Mason or VCU.

This just sounds a little too much like: "Let's get back together, so I can leave you, instead of you leaving me."

[foreverwarriors]

Then you

But what happens when the ACC gets raided again and calls UCONN and Cincy?

Then you have a 10 team league that allows a round robin conference schedule until you find 2 more candidates.

The ACC raiding them is the only bad thing I see in this (well besides SLU being the 12th team...I'd rather Creighton...or even Dayton for that matter...over SLU).

-provides a better product for TV negotiations
-provides that crucial football school to formally dissolve the Big East - no exit fees for us...and then when UC and UConn do leave, we get exit fees from them
-2 solid basketball programs

[Dawson Rental]

Hmmmm.....

I don't want Aresco involved, but from a basketball product point of view, this would be the best option out there.  

I just don't want to go overboard on football members though.  UConn and UC?  I can live with that.  But draw the line there.  No Memphis.  No Temple.

I agree with the only two football playing schools concept.  Why not Memphis and UConn?  Why add Cincy and have two Cincinnati teams?

We should probably ask keefe which teams Fox Sports would prefer.

[foreverwarriors]

I agree with the only two football playing schools concept.  Why not Memphis and UConn?  Why add Cincy and have two Cincinnati teams?

We should probably ask keefe which teams Fox Sports would prefer.

He'd probably say Gonzaga.

[jficke13]

I don't like it. We have a chance to put this football-related restructuring nonsense behind us once and for all and to start building a brand around a new stable conference. Putting in these two schools that we 100% KNOW will leave first chance they get is just postponing another round of restructuring. I say freeze 'em out entirely unless they fold their FBS teams and sign a contract saying they won't restart the programs.

[tower912]

Great from a basketball perspective, lousy from a long-term stability perspective.   We can't tell two other teams to take a hike for now and that we'll come calling when UConn and Cinci inevitably bail.    I want long term stability.

[Groin_pull]

NO NO NO! If that happens, I'm done. I can't believe this. The C7 schools finally grow a pair and set out to determine their own fate——only to turn around and welcome back two football schools that have zero interest in being long-term members.  

Absolutely unreal. UConn and Cincy: two schools that would have left the Big East in the dust long ago...if only someone wanted them. Screw them both. They wanted out—and made that fact loud and clear. Now, they're scrambling for a home. F**k 'em.

Guess it's like having a cheating, lying girlfriend who treats you like crap. You finally dump her, but then turn around and welcome her back with open arms.

I can't tell you enough how much I absolutely hate this idea.

[eroc830]

But what happens when the ACC gets raided again and calls UCONN and Cincy?

I'd agree with what the bottom of that article says, it still leaves you 10 basketball teams which you could probably add two more from the A10 no problem.  Same when the ACC came for Boston College and Miami and the Big East backfilled from C-USA.  

Agree not great for long term stability, but to be honest I don't think any conference has full long term stability right now besides maybe the SEC

[Norm]

The story indicates that Xavier, Butler and St. Louis are the favorites for the non-football, non-C7 schools to add. I would swap Creighton for St. Louis, but that's just my opinion. And with both Xavier and Cincinnati in the league, that would probably preclude Dayton from joining as well, until Cincy left and Dayton could take its spot.

[Groin_pull]

I'd agree with what the bottom of that article says, it still leaves you 10 basketball teams which you could probably add two more from the A10 no problem.  Same when the ACC came for Boston College and Miami and the Big East backfilled from C-USA.  

Agree not great for long term stability, but to be honest I don't think any conference has full long term stability right now besides maybe the SEC

Wrong. The SEC, Big 10, and Pac-12 are all sitting in fine positions. And so would the C7...if they avoid all this UConn, Cincy crap.

[MDMU04]

I agree with the only two football playing schools concept.  Why not Memphis and UConn?  Why add Cincy and have two Cincinnati teams?

We should probably ask keefe which teams Fox Sports would prefer.

Give it about a month. He'll have found the article by then.

[chapman]

It would be a heck of a basketball league to have them with X, Butler, and Creighton.  And yeah, no way in hell should the C7 ever touch more football schools like Memphis and Temple.  If there's a core of 10 basketball schools and UConn and Cincy are willing to give an appropriate exit fee when they finally do get their football invites - enough to give everyone some cash for doing them a favor and buy out New Team 11-12 of their current conference so there is no gap in the games in order to keep the network happy...go ahead.  Probably gets the most money out of the television contract to give them these two "to start", and buys a little time to let the candidates for the two TBD spots have an arms race to prove they're the best fit since 10 teams is easy, teams 11-12 at this point become somewhat underwhelming.

Guess it's like having a cheating, lying girlfriend who treats you like crap. You finally dump her, but then turn around and welcome her back with open arms.

No, it's just agreeing to have sex with her.  And like they say, ex sex is the best sex.

[mileskishnish72]

UConn and Cinci have been looking for an out - fuhgetaboutem! Welcome Bulldogs, Musketeers, Bluejays and Billikens!

[Dawson Rental]

Great from a basketball perspective, lousy from a long-term stability perspective.   We can't tell two other teams to take a hike for now and that we'll come calling when UConn and Cinci inevitably bail.    I want long term stability.

And you deserve long term stability.  Take heart in the fact that the sports writer who is floating this, Mark Blaudschun, is a football beat writer.

[MDMU04]

If we're going down this road, why not take Memphis too? Then you add X and Butler and don't need SLU or Dayton.

This being said, the purpose of this exercise is to control our own destiny. Bringing football back into the equation does nothing to support the goal.

[bilsu]

I am not opposed to adding Uconn and Cincy, but I think we should go to 12 teams now not counting them.
14 team league, if they join. That way, if they leave, we have a 12 team league we would of had without them joining.

[slack00]

Then you
Then you have a 10 team league that allows a round robin conference schedule until you find 2 more candidates.

The ACC raiding them is the only bad thing I see in this (well besides SLU being the 12th team...I'd rather Creighton...or even Dayton for that matter...over SLU).

-provides a better product for TV negotiations
-provides that crucial football school to formally dissolve the Big East - no exit fees for us...and then when UC and UConn do leave, we get exit fees from them
-2 solid basketball programs

These are the biggest reasons why these make sense.  UConn and Cincy are worth more both in TV negotiations and in possible exit fees whenever they might get the call from the ACC than any combination of the other schools. 

[thanooj]

Like a reverse notre dame could uconn and cincy join the c7 in all sports but football and put their football in a different conference or go independent?