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We R Final Four

Quote from: TeamOh on January 11, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Shots that are considered "wide open" in the college game are highly contested shots in the high school game.

Really??


We R Final Four

You should sit courtside for Adams-Friendship games (instead of D1 games and numerous final fours)....alot of open looks in their games. 

TeamOh

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Quote from: We R Final Four on January 11, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
You should sit courtside for Adams-Friendship games (instead of D1 games and numerous final fours)....alot of open looks in their games.  

I'll consider it.  Thanks for the recommendation.

Wasn't meant to be a boast.  I don't sit there every game.  But I have sat there before.  And you see the game in an entirely different light when you are that close to the action.  Even 20 rows up the game seems much different than when you are right on the court.  You see much more, realize how much more physical, how non-fluid the game is, how incredibly skilled these guys are, etc.  You see how tiny a shooter's window is to get the shot off cleanly.

We R Final Four

Thank for the perspective--most of us have only been around basketball for 5 minutes so thank you for the enlightenment. I had no idea of the different perspectives that you shared. Thanks again.

g0lden3agle

Someone make sure "Get Better Players" is on Buzz's checklist when he's figuring out his strategy for recruiting.

Markusquette

I think the problem with this topic could have been solved if the title simply wasn't "We Need Better Players."  TeamOh you bring up some good points but just a word of advice - a little less attitude and a little more discussion will help give you a warmer welcome.

With that said, let's hope next years class is indeed top 10, and we get better players for 2014.   ;D

WellsstreetWanderer

We need to find out where Mark Few finds those 7 footers

sarcastro

Bad news guys.  I looked into it and it is impossible to go back in time and recruit high school players who have proven themselves in the Big East.

TeamOh

Quote from: sarcastro on January 11, 2013, 09:46:03 PM
Bad news guys.  I looked into it and it is impossible to go back in time and recruit high school players who have proven themselves in the Big East.

Reading comprehension really is a big problem here isn't it?  Welp, this was fun!

brewcity77

Quote from: elephantraker on January 11, 2013, 08:23:44 PM
We need to find out where Mark Few finds those 7 footers

We recruited Karnowski.

🏀

Everyone attacked this guy, but did anyone care to think he may have watched all these players in the MPL?

Probably a terrible post title for his content, but despite the class ranking, there is no guarantee of on court translation at Marquette.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: TeamOh on January 11, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
Reading comprehension really is a big problem here isn't it?  Welp, this was fun!

If everyone's missing the point, might want to reevaluate the delivery/message entirely.

Stretchdeltsig

Perhaps this post should read "We need taller players".  I think we have good talent.  Although we are taller than a few years ago, we are still shorter than most teams.  It seems that Buzz is not comfortable coaching a taller team.

sarcastro

We need to go back in time and save Jonbenet Ramsey...butterfly effect...BOOM! Better players at Marquette.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 12, 2013, 10:11:19 AM
Perhaps this post should read "We need taller players".  I think we have good talent.  Although we are taller than a few years ago, we are still shorter than most teams.  It seems that Buzz is not comfortable coaching a taller team.

This is one of the tallest teams we've had in a while.  Sure, we need a bigger 5, but overall, there is a lot of length in each position, and next year it'll be pretty big as well.
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Maybe just smarter at times, but we are turning out to be pretty good.

TeamOh

Quote from: GoldenZebra on January 12, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
Delete this thread.

Because we have beat teams who are a combined 2-6 in the Big East? Believe me, I'm extremely happy to be 3-0 in conference play, but really?

g0lden3agle

Quote from: TeamOh on January 12, 2013, 02:42:43 PM
Because we have beat teams who are a combined 2-6 in the Big East? Believe me, I'm extremely happy to be 3-0 in conference play, but really?

How bout delete it because you are stating just about the most obvious fact about basketball when you boil it all down- at the end of the day a team is only as good as the players that are recruited. No one is denying that, but we are more realistic in our understanding of the caliber of player we can get here.

I

brewcity77

Quote from: TeamOh on January 12, 2013, 02:42:43 PM
Because we have beat teams who are a combined 2-6 in the Big East? Believe me, I'm extremely happy to be 3-0 in conference play, but really?

Half of those losses are because we beat them. Let's not forget Georgetown beat UCLA and Texas and took Indiana to OT, UConn beat Michigan State, and Michigan needed a late comeback to beat Pittsburgh. We beat 3 very good teams and this thread is foolish.

Billybob

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
Half of those losses are because we beat them. Let's not forget Georgetown beat UCLA and Texas and took Indiana to OT, UConn beat Michigan State, and Michigan needed a late comeback to beat Pittsburgh. We beat 3 very good teams and this thread is foolish.

Man Brew, you kick so many facts at random, I would swear you're in your underwear, in the basement with a year supply of jerky, running 5 flat screens all tuned to Milwaukee news. GOT SOAP? LOL.  YOU ARE THE MAN.

MuMark


LMAO

Reggie Rankin ‏@ReggieRankin
#BJI2013 Brookfield Central (WI) over Chester (PA) 64-56 Riley LaChance was MOP made shots off the catch and rythum bounce. Nice performance


Quote from: TeamOh on January 11, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Wilson will not make us forget about Cadougan "real quick."  Wilson will get 7th man minutes as a freshman.  He is not going to come in and average over 10, 5, and 3 (Cadougan's numbers so far this season).  While Cadougan is too inconsistent, he is not a bad player at all.  I like Cadougan's game for a point guard.  He runs an offense.  That should be the first job of a point guard.  A point guard's first job is not to score the basketball.

I agree that Wilson has a quick release, but this is an honest question...have you ever sat on the floor for a Division 1 men's college basketball game?  Shots that are considered "wide open" in the college game are highly contested shots in the high school game.  The margin for error is much, much smaller in college than it is in high school.  If you get an open look you better take it quickly or that open look will quickly be closed out on in college ball.

As far as Germantown goes, yes they are a good high school basketball team.  I will agree with you on that.  But they are NOT so good that they should be on a 40+ game winning streak and averaging a margin of victory over FOURTY POINTS!  Even if they were as good of a program as Simeon (AKA occasionally competing for the mythical "high school national champion"), they should not be winning games by that much.  Simeon's team last year, which finished the season ranked 11th in the country and had division 1 recruits coming off of their bench, won a total of 3 games by 40 or more points, with 2 more close to that.  They had many games that they won by single digits, and multiple games where they won by a single possession.  Germantown is winning games by FOURTY POINTS PER GAME!  I don't care how good they are (again good, but with the way they beat teams you would think they would be legendary), they should not be winning games by 40 every single night.

Let's see how Brookfield Central does tomorrow against Chester High School from Pennsylvania, the number 9 team in the country.  Brookfield Central lost to Germantown on a buzzer-beating put-back layup over Fischer's head.  They really should've lost the game, as Brookfield Central had the ball out of bounds with 40 seconds left with the game tied and got a REAL quick 5 second call against them.  If Brookfield Central can hang with Chester then maybe Germantown is really that legit not only in Wisconsin, but anywhere.  If Brookfield Central gets blown out then I think the question is really answered.

wadesworld

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TeamOh

Quote from: MuMark on January 12, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
LMAO

Reggie Rankin ‏@ReggieRankin
#BJI2013 Brookfield Central (WI) over Chester (PA) 64-56 Riley LaChance was MOP made shots off the catch and rythum bounce. Nice performance



LMAO. Might want to check the facts before you post a condescending comment. Rondae Jefferson, a 6'7" senior point guard committed to Arizona and a top 20 recruit in the 2013 class on Chester, did not play today. Still a nice win, but not quite the same team without a probable McDonald's All American. Nice effort!

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