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netty24

He looked like he was playing well in the first half and then I don't remember him being out there at all for the second half. Did he sustain an injury?

Markusquette

Good question.  He had 5 points pretty early and sat with 1 foul for pretty much the rest of the first half and then played for a bit in the second.  Something must have been up unless Buzz just wanted Todd playing more in Trent's place.

nyg

Hit a three early in first, then nothing in half.  Second half made a tipin early, then sat.

Reason, the play of Mayo.  Lockett played 11 and Mayo 24 minutes.  Probably a sign of things to come. 

NersEllenson

I think the answer to your question is:  Todd Mayo.

And...Lockett has been rather underwhelming in his extended minutes thus far. 
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

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Lennys Tap

Maybe Buzz should try Lockett in Jamil's spot.

My new rotation: pt Junior, DWilson 2/3  Vander, Mayo, Juan 4 Lockett, S Taylor 5 Gardner, Jamil, Otule. Thomas as the occasional designated shooter.

netty24

I would like to see a starting lineup of Junior, Mayo, Blue, Juan, Otule. I would also love to have Lockett come off the bench and give rebounding help when needed. I guess I was just surprised to see Lockett ride the bench most of the second half when Blue was struggling.

Dr. Blackheart

Lockett had to sit because Buzz needed to insert D. Wilson into the line-up to play defense against a five switchable line-up because our other guards weren't playing defense. 

jsglow

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 29, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
Lockett had to sit because Buzz needed to insert D. Wilson into the line-up to play defense against a five switchable line-up because our other guards weren't playing defense. 

Thanks Dr.  I had noticed the JC AND D Wilson guard line for several minutes in the second half.  Was wondering about that.

DoggyDaddy

Someone, maybe it was in Paint Touches, noted that when Mayo enters, Blue moves over to the 3rd guard spot where he is statistically at least, more effective. One could argue that Blue should stay there and have Mayo start.  But either way, MU is better off with Blue and Mayo on the floor together for significant minutes. I bet we'll see more of this as Todd gets his groove back.  He was pretty groovy yesterday.  If the powers have not make a choice for stud of the game yet, my vote goes to Todd but I'd be pleased with Van, as well.     

jsglow

Quote from: DoggyDaddy on December 30, 2012, 08:08:22 AM
Someone, maybe it was in Paint Touches, noted that when Mayo enters, Blue moves over to the 3rd guard spot where he is statistically at least, more effective. One could argue that Blue should stay there and have Mayo start.  But either way, MU is better off with Blue and Mayo on the floor together for significant minutes. I bet we'll see more of this as Todd gets his groove back.  He was pretty groovy yesterday.  If the powers have not make a choice for stud of the game yet, my vote goes to Todd but I'd be pleased with Van, as well.     

In an earlier thread, I had proposed max minutes for Todd yesterday.  24 absolutely fit the bill.  He's got 72 hours to get ready for a very major role against UConn.  As it pertains to Trent, I believe he was quite effective in his 11 minutes yesterday.  Be interesting to see our conference season rotation develop.

MU82

Unless we experience a situation in which we consistently underperform in the first few minutes of a game -- which has not been the case -- it doesn't matter who starts.

Buzz will give the best players the most minutes and definitely will use the best players at crunch time.
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keefe

Seems that locket has settled into his new role on the bench. Thank God Mayo is back!


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Nukem2

Quote from: keefe on December 30, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
Seems that locket has settled into his new role on the bench. Thank God Mayo is back!
Not having Todd (and TJ Taylor for that matter) has really hurt this team so far.  He would have made a huge difference in the Butler and UW-GB games and would have made MU more competitive with FLorida.  Those non-FL losses were determined by 2 shot with Clarke hitting a circus shot against MU and Thomas missing a good look at UW-GB.  Based on %'s, those could easily have been reversed and MU would be 11-1 and we'd all be felling much better.

MU82

Quote from: Nukem2 on December 30, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Not having Todd (and TJ Taylor for that matter) has really hurt this team so far.  He would have made a huge difference in the Butler and UW-GB games and would have made MU more competitive with FLorida.  Those non-FL losses were determined by 2 shot with Clarke hitting a circus shot against MU and Thomas missing a good look at UW-GB.  Based on %'s, those could easily have been reversed and MU would be 11-1 and we'd all be felling much better.

I love your optimism but there is no way to project and say that if we beat Butler we'd be 11-1.

Playing the "what-if" game is hazardous to a fan's health, because there's always an equal and opposite what-if. Such as: What if Bruesewitz had been healthy for the Badgers? What if Marquette had shot its norm from the FT line against LSU instead of an absurd 24-for-25? What if we beat Butler but then lost to North Carolina and Texas in Hawaii? What if our game against Ohio State hadn't gotten canceled and we lost to the Buckeyes (probably by a huge margin)?

In any or all of these cases we'd be worse than 9-3.

We are 9-3 because we deserve to be 9-3, just as we'd have deserved to be 11-1 if we had that record or 1-11 if we had that record.
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Nukem2

Quote from: MU82 on December 30, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
I love your optimism but there is no way to project and say that if we beat Butler we'd be 11-1.

Playing the "what-if" game is hazardous to a fan's health, because there's always an equal and opposite what-if. Such as: What if Bruesewitz had been healthy for the Badgers? What if Marquette had shot its norm from the FT line against LSU instead of an absurd 24-for-25? What if we beat Butler but then lost to North Carolina and Texas in Hawaii? What if our game against Ohio State hadn't gotten canceled and we lost to the Buckeyes (probably by a huge margin)?

In any or all of these cases we'd be worse than 9-3.

We are 9-3 because we deserve to be 9-3, just as we'd have deserved to be 11-1 if we had that record or 1-11 if we had that record.
Not sure I was being optimistic, just saying...

tower912

Mayo will be starting with Lockett coming off of the bench shortly.   May see Thomas keep getting his minutes and Lockett down by Ferguson and Taylor. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MerrittsMustache

Lockett is what he is. He's a senior and Buzz trusts him. Mayo just came back and needs to get back into game shape and spend time on the court in game situations. After not playing much against LSU, Saturday was his last chance to do so before the conference schedule starts. It was likely a strategy going into a game against a weaker opponent to have Mayo see more minutes and Lockett see less. It also didn't hurt that Mayo had a hot hand  ;)


Skatastrophy

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 31, 2012, 09:29:20 AM
Lockett is what he is. He's a senior and Buzz trusts him. Mayo just came back and needs to get back into game shape and spend time on the court in game situations. After not playing much against LSU, Saturday was his last chance to do so before the conference schedule starts. It was likely a strategy going into a game against a weaker opponent to have Mayo see more minutes and Lockett see less. It also didn't hurt that Mayo had a hot hand  ;)

It's also part of the strategy to bench Lockett since he's been struggling since the beginning of the season.  I hope he finds his motivation to play harder soon with conference season starting tomorrow.

MU82

To answer the question posed in this thread ...

The main thing that happened to Lockett is that he hasn't played up to the lofty expectation placed upon him by folks who had never seen him play before.

Present company included.
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jsglow

Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2012, 09:20:10 AM
Mayo will be starting with Lockett coming off of the bench shortly.   May see Thomas keep getting his minutes and Lockett down by Ferguson and Taylor. 

Um, no.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
To answer the question posed in this thread ...

The main thing that happened to Lockett is that he hasn't played up to the lofty expectation placed upon him by folks who had never seen him play before.

Present company included.

Yep. I did the same thing. I extrapolated his numbers and thought I knew what MU was getting (off some videos and stats).

I was wrong. He's a nice role player and appears to be a good kid and leader.

Glad to have him, but I my expectations were just too high.

If MU wants to win big games, Lockett and Jamil have to be significantly better than they have been... I'm crossing my fingers... but I'm not calling Vegas.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2012, 09:20:10 AM
Mayo will be starting with Lockett coming off of the bench shortly.   May see Thomas keep getting his minutes and Lockett down by Ferguson and Taylor. 
Come on...Mayo put together a decent game against a creampuff.  Wait until we play a real team and let's see how he does.  Hopefully he will continue to play well, but I'm not sold based on playing NCC.

GGGG

Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2012, 09:20:10 AM
Mayo will be starting with Lockett coming off of the bench shortly.   May see Thomas keep getting his minutes and Lockett down by Ferguson and Taylor. 


You do not have an appreciation for what Lockett does on the floor.

Stretchdeltsig

We've all seen enough of Lockett to know what he can and can't do.  Mayo is simply a better player period.  Buzz needs to play the best players for us to win.

GGGG

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on December 31, 2012, 10:11:58 AM
We've all seen enough of Lockett to know what he can and can't do.  Mayo is simply a better player period.  Buzz needs to play the best players for us to win.


No kidding.  But the idea that he should be sitting on the end of the bench with Ferguson is simply wrong.

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