A little birdie heard....

[The Process]

Where did she go? Cause I only see us as elitist towards schools like DePaul Dayton and Loyola Chicago but humble with Notre Dame Boston College and Georgetown

Undergrad @ St. Cloud St.
Masters @ Oklahoma
Post-Masters @ UWM

[Mufflers]

MKE to Spokane to Dayton to MKE = 3,659 miles

If the team plays on a Friday, travels on a Saturday, plays on a Sunday, and travels back Sunday night, I don't think it will have that much impact on academics or performance.  Clearly, I don't agree with the "travel partner" logic.  Hell, make Marquette or DePaul the traveling partner with Gonzaga and stop at 10 teams.  I'll take a couple tired visitors to the BMO Harris BC.

[Mufflers]

Wait a second, are we talking about one weekend per year for each of our teams?  How many teams do we have, eight?  Wouldn't one weekend for eight teams be worth the addition to the new conference's reputation?

[Dr. Blackheart]

MKE to Spokane to Dayton to MKE = 3,659 miles

If the team plays on a Friday, travels on a Saturday, plays on a Sunday, and travels back Sunday night, I don't think it will have that much impact on academics or performance.  Clearly, I don't agree with the "travel partner" logic.  Hell, make Marquette or DePaul the traveling partner with Gonzaga and stop at 10 teams.  I'll take a couple tired visitors to the BMO Harris BC.

And traverse four time zones to play?...CST to EST and flying from EST passing over CST, Mountain to then to Pacific?  Only to fly back to CST to wake up for 8AM class and daily workouts?  Yeah, the SA won't be impacted at all under that scenario.

Again, as this thread is diluted...Gonzaga is seriously being considered for this reason only:  the media partner and their $$ offer MAY dictate it as they are the best West Coast hoops school.

Ten could work...for hoops...but MU has other sports and the C7 doesn't offer all the same ones....and if they do, they mostly suck except Gtown, affecting RPI, coaches, quality, post-season and thus seriously draining dollars away from basketball.  MU Olympics sports have flourished in the BE because of the conference prestige and level of conference play. 

[MU82]

Again, as this thread is diluted...Gonzaga is seriously being considered for this reason only:  the media partner and their $$ offer MAY dictate it as they are the best West Coast hoops school.

Lots of posters, so maybe it is diluted. But it also might be deluded.

[Tugg Speedman]

Has to be charter or it won't work.  MU will have to buy into charter time share...not to mention the East Coast schools in all this.  Non-revenue sports is big issue for this proposed conference...cost, quality, and SA performance. Has to be a big blocker for going Far West to add. Go slow.

That will run into the hundreds of thousands.

[keefe]

Undergrad @ St. Cloud St.
Masters @ Oklahoma
Post-Masters @ UWM

Academic Rankings

Marquette: #83 National

St. Cloud State: #93 Regional (Midwest)

Oklahoma: #101 National

UWM: Not Ranked

I can see why she sees MU alums as elitist

[Aughnanure]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/game_of_name_in_big_east_split_Z8tWWS17CNrVQYweK2jPQK/1

Pretty good article.   His sources say that Gonzaga/St Mary's are cost prohibitive.    Also floats George Mason instead of Creighton. 

Well that makes no sense.

[Dr. Blackheart]

That will run into the hundreds of thousands.

One trip for 25 on the multiple leg at $42k on a turbo prop to Oakland then Spokane and then back to Milwaukee...for five team sports for one trip each, it is a bit north of $200k...balanced versus current charter costs and extra media revenue from the current deal by adding Gonzaga. Pretty sure MU and its business friends can beat the price estimate too.

Another, I know you fly in style with all your cash...but I am sure the Stones don't even fly in your league.   

http://www.avchart.com/users/quotes/passenger-request.asp?chtype=Multi-Leg&passengers=25&leg1from=KMKE&l1frcity=Milwaukee%2FGeneral+Mi%2C+WI&leg1to=KOAK&l1tocity=Oakland%2FMetropolitan%2C+CA&deparr1=Depart&hour1=4%3A00+PM&date1=01%2F17%2F2013&leg2from=KOAK&l2frcity=Oakland%2FMetropolitan%2C+CA&leg2to=KGEG&l2tocity=Spokane%2FIntl%2C+WA&deparr2=Depart&hour2=4%3A00+PM&date2=01%2F20%2F2013&ln=2

[Tugg Speedman]

One trip for 25 on the multiple leg at $42k on a turbo prop to Oakland then Spokane and then back to Milwaukee...for five team sports for one trip each, it is a bit north of $200k...balanced versus current charter costs and extra media revenue from the current deal by adding Gonzaga. Pretty sure MU and its business friends can beat the price estimate too.

Another, I know you fly in style with all your cash...but I am sure the Stones don't even fly in your league.   

http://www.avchart.com/users/quotes/passenger-request.asp?chtype=Multi-Leg&passengers=25&leg1from=KMKE&l1frcity=Milwaukee%2FGeneral+Mi%2C+WI&leg1to=KOAK&l1tocity=Oakland%2FMetropolitan%2C+CA&deparr1=Depart&hour1=4%3A00+PM&date1=01%2F17%2F2013&leg2from=KOAK&l2frcity=Oakland%2FMetropolitan%2C+CA&leg2to=KGEG&l2tocity=Spokane%2FIntl%2C+WA&deparr2=Depart&hour2=4%3A00+PM&date2=01%2F20%2F2013&ln=2

For the Soccer team and all others that travel with them, you need a plane that seats 40.  Not a 6 seat turboprop.

That is going to cost a lot more than my Marquis Card rates.

[Dr. Blackheart]

For the Soccer team and all others that travel with them, you need a plane that seats 40.  Not a 6 seat turboprop.

That is going to cost a lot more than my Marquis Card rates.

It is a large turbo prop jet that holds 50...most likely the travel squad are the ones that go anyway.

http://www.avchart.com/quotes/charter-type-details.asp?actypeid=4

[esotericmindguy]

Academic Rankings


St. Cloud State: #93 Regional (Midwest)

That seems high, in the late 90s they let you in if you filled out the application correctly. That's not a joke.

[bilsu]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/game_of_name_in_big_east_split_Z8tWWS17CNrVQYweK2jPQK/1

Pretty good article.   His sources say that Gonzaga/St Mary's are cost prohibitive.    Also floats George Mason instead of Creighton. 

The team I want the most is Creighton. Creighton is the reason why I grew up on MU basketball. My father graduated from Creighton in 1940. He decided to get MU season tickets when MU hired Eddie Hickey, who was coach at Creighton when my father was there. Also my uncle Bernard Portz SJ, who also taught at MUHS, was a math and music professor at Creighton. By the way bilsu the current holder of those season tickets that go back to 1956 was season ticket holder of the game for the LSU game.

[Newsdreams]

That seems high, in the late 90s they let you in if you filled out the application correctly. That's not a joke.

The key there is that it is a "regional" ranking while Marquette's is a national ranking.

[esotericmindguy]

The key there is that it is a "regional" ranking while Marquette's is a national ranking.

I'm aware, still seems high...

[BallBoy]

Dude, if you can piss Jack Daniels I have an order I'd like to submit.   

Did you just say you would happily drink someone's pee?

[Tony Two Times]

Dude, if you can piss Jack Daniels I have an order I'd like to submit.   

I guess you likes to drink Man Milk. Likes to drink Man Milk. Wadda cafone.

[GGGG]

I think you are missing the big picture. The C7 does not need football to be a very good basketball conference. However, the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10 and ACC will always be considered a cut above the C7 even if the C7 has better basketball. These conferences get a tremendous amount of TV exposure during the first 2 /1/2 months of football season, while the C7 will be getting none. While Big East football was never something I got excited about, at least the football gave them some TV exposure.

I fully understand the big picture.  Adding bad football teams for the sake of having football teams makes no sense regardless of what people "think."

[GGGG]

Nothing surprises me anymore and I definitely would not be shocked in Georgetown ultimately is not part of this conference.

1. Where is Georgetown going to go?
2. If they do leave, and MU doesn't get an invite, what exactly do you want MU to do?

[Avenue Commons]

Gonzaga is no more likely to be in the C7 league for all sports than Marquette is going to return to Warriors and start a football team.

It is totally non-feasible as an all sport participant. But they can be basketball only....

[GGGG]

Gonzaga isn't going to be a basketball only participant because no other conference would allow them to park non-revenue sports there while taking their marquee program elsewhere.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

The team I want the most is Creighton. Creighton is the reason why I grew up on MU basketball. My father graduated from Creighton in 1940. He decided to get MU season tickets when MU hired Eddie Hickey, who was coach at Creighton when my father was there. Also my uncle Bernard Portz SJ, who also taught at MUHS, was a math and music professor at Creighton. By the way bilsu the current holder of those season tickets that go back to 1956 was season ticket holder of the game for the LSU game.

Congrats! Nice timeline. Like to see stories like this.

[keefe]

Gonzaga isn't going to be a basketball only participant because no other conference would allow them to park non-revenue sports there while taking their marquee program elsewhere.

How do you explain BYU then?

[Avenue Commons]

Gonzaga isn't going to be a basketball only participant because no other conference would allow them to park non-revenue sports there while taking their marquee program elsewhere.

Then how was Notre Dame's non-marquee sports in the Big East AND ACC? Anything is possible if the $$$ works for the parties involved.

[jsglow]

The team I want the most is Creighton. Creighton is the reason why I grew up on MU basketball. My father graduated from Creighton in 1940. He decided to get MU season tickets when MU hired Eddie Hickey, who was coach at Creighton when my father was there. Also my uncle Bernard Portz SJ, who also taught at MUHS, was a math and music professor at Creighton. By the way bilsu the current holder of those season tickets that go back to 1956 was season ticket holder of the game for the LSU game.

Warriorchick and I commented about the tickets dating to '56.  That's fantastic bilsu.  Congratulations.