Do we now root for the ACC to blow up?

[Tugg Speedman]

The best thing that could happen to the new C7 conference is UNC goes to to the B1G.  Then Miami, Virginia, Fla State, Clemson etc all jump to the SEC and B12.

Should this happen, it opens the door to ND and possibly BC joining us (if BC can find a football home).

How realistic is this?

[forgetful]

While were at it, maybe duke will abandon football and join also.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I don't want any schools with football. If we care about the ACC blowing up it should be BC they are a better BBall conference than we will be.

[Nukem2]

If that happens, we would then have 4 super conferences go 16 schools.  Would the break away from NCAA.  Rest of us would be on our own  I'll take a pass.

[brewcity77]

Honestly, I don't care anymore. Let them do whatever they want, I feel secure in our future, which was the main concern all along.

[chapman]

Honestly, I don't care anymore. Let them do whatever they want, I feel secure in our future, which was the main concern all along.

This.  Now that we're on the path to stability I no longer have a rooting interest.

[Pakuni]

No. I want the realignment madness to end. It's only made college athletics less palatable.

[4everwarriors]

There will be more stability without football playing members.

[ecompt]

There will be more stability without football playing members.

Absolutely. Why get ourselves in a position where we have to worry about this crap in another 10 years?

[ChicosBailBonds]

The best thing that could happen to the new C7 conference is UNC goes to to the B1G.  Then Miami, Virginia, Fla State, Clemson etc all jump to the SEC and B12.

Should this happen, it opens the door to ND and possibly BC joining us (if BC can find a football home).

How realistic is this?

Please explain why you think this is a good thing, let alone one we should root for.

[muwarrior69]

My mother told me never to wish ill on anyone.

[Tugg Speedman]

Please explain why you think this is a good thing, let alone one we should root for.

Because we could pick up a high profile school in ND. (They are essentially a non-football school)

[Pakuni]

Because we could pick up a high profile school in ND. (They are essentially a non-football school)

Wait, what?
There may not be a school in the country - at least outside the state of Alabama - that is less non-football than Notre Dame.

[Tugg Speedman]

Wait, what?
There may not be a school in the country - at least outside the state of Alabama - that is less non-football than Notre Dame.

ND is independent in football.   They will always be independent in football.  They are NOT a football member of the ACC.  They were not a football member of the Big East.  Their conference affiliation is made without consideration of football.

Pakuni, you knew all this, why did I have to explain it to you?

[Pakuni]

ND is independent in football.   They will always be independent in football.  They are NOT a football member of the ACC.  They were not a football member of the Big East.  Their conference affiliation is made without consideration of football.

Pakuni, you knew all this, why did I have to explain it to you?

As long as Notre Dame football exists, so does the possibility that they'll eventually wind up in a conference. there may come a time where joining the Big ? is better for ND, competitively and financially, than remaining independent. Never say never.

It's arguably worth taking the chance to bring them into this new conference, but let's not pretend it's not always a looming possibility. Football will drive all future athletics decisions made by ND.

[honkytonk]

Because we could pick up a high profile school in ND. (They are essentially a non-football school)

The ACC is currently making decisions to appease FSU and Clemson. If they leave, what makes you think the ACC is going to continue to make decisions about membership based on football? If schools like Duke and Syracuse are in that conference (and as long as they have 12 football members), dont you think they could potentially make a run at Georgetown? And maybe SJU? Never say never. So, it would be preferable if the ACC sticks together and option doesnt get consideration.  

Also, BC has the largest athletic department in the ACC. They simply couldnt fit it in the new conference. Even Notre Dame's athletic department is much larger than any of the other schools. I dont ever see them leaving football schools.

[Tugg Speedman]

The ACC is currently making decisions to appease FSU and Clemson. If they leave, what makes you think the ACC is going to continue to make decisions about membership based on football? 

Football drives the bus.  Football makes the money.

If FSU and Clemson leave and the ACC decides to make decision based on Basketball ... Miami, UNC, Virginia, BC and a lot of the others schools will look to jump.  Basketball does not makes enough money to be a deciding factor.

[GGGG]

No...we need stability "above" us.

[honkytonk]

Football drives the bus.  Football makes the money.

If FSU and Clemson leave and the ACC decides to make decision based on Basketball ... Miami, UNC, Virginia, BC and a lot of the others schools will look to jump.  Basketball does not makes enough money to be a deciding factor.

In your OP, you made the assumption that these schools were gone anyways.... The BE died because too much garbage was added. With Duke and Wake and Cuse and BC and UL and UConn in charge, I could definitely see at least Georgetown getting added.

[Tugg Speedman]

No...we need stability "above" us.

Wrong, we need as big a TV deal as possible.  That will ensure the maximum possible TV coverage which dominates recruiting.  ND helps increase the TV deal.

If the ACC starts coming apart, FSU, Clemson, Miami leave, they are leaving because the SEC and the B12 have larger TV contracts and they get more money.  It is that simple.

If these schools leave, the ACC will most likely replace them with UConn, Cincy and USF.  With the ACC already having 'Cuse Pitt and Louisville, it is the football schools of the Big East all over again.  This conference will not get as good a TV deal that the current configuration gets.  The ACC is watering itself down and ND, as a non-football school, might reconsider.

[Tugg Speedman]

In your OP, you made the assumption that these schools were gone anyways.... The BE died because too much garbage was added. With Duke and Wake and Cuse and BC and UL and UConn in charge, I could definitely see at least Georgetown getting added.

How does GU improve their football TV deal?  Answer, they do not and Virginia will not stand for it.

[honkytonk]

How does GU improve their football TV deal?  Answer, they do not and Virginia will not stand for it.

Again, if you actually read your original post, you made the assumption that Virginia (and all the other major fball schools currently in the ACC) were ALREADY gone. Jesus.

[GGGG]

Wrong, we need as big a TV deal as possible.  That will ensure the maximum possible TV coverage which dominates recruiting.  ND helps increase the TV deal.

If the ACC starts coming apart, FSU, Clemson, Miami leave, they are leaving because the SEC and the B12 have larger TV contracts and they get more money.  It is that simple.

If these schools leave, the ACC will most likely replace them with UConn, Cincy and USF.  With the ACC already having 'Cuse Pitt and Louisville, it is the football schools of the Big East all over again.  This conference will not get as good a TV deal that the current configuration gets.  The ACC is watering itself down and ND, as a non-football school, might reconsider.

Or it could go in a direction you don't want it to go.  Stability means no one poaches the new conference for whatever reason.  

[Tugg Speedman]

Or it could go in a direction you don't want it to go.  Stability means no one poaches the new conference for whatever reason.  

You're fooling yourself if their will ever be stability.  Stability only applies to the B1G because they make more money then anyone else (thanks to the Big Ten Network or BTN).  Have you noticed no one leaves teh B1Ga nd everyone wants in.  That is because of one reason, the money they make with the BTN.

You get stability by getting more money.  To get more money, you have to take risks.  That means ND if you can get them to reconsider.  If not, the new conference is on a road to mid-major.

[Tugg Speedman]

Again, if you actually read your original post, you made the assumption that Virginia (and all the other major fball schools currently in the ACC) were ALREADY gone. Jesus.

You seriously think if Virginia jumps to the B1G they would consider GU?  The ACC is not that stupid.

Conference realignment is made on three criteria ... football, football and ... football.  If you do not have football (GU ... and their glorified club team does not count), you're not part of the decision.  The ACC took Louisville over GU!  What does that say?  Academics, geography, and basketball are irrelevant to the decision making process.  It is about new TV markets (Virginia already has the DC market) and how good your football team is.  GU loses on both counts.
 
The ACC will take USF, Cincy and/or UConn over GU.  If they thought GU made sense, they would have already taken them ... and done it years ago.  Why not?  Because GU does not mean more money for the ACC.  Stop that is the answer.