If you supported Larry Williams previously, how can you now??

[lab_warrior]

Do I actually have to read any of this thread to confidently state that this is even dumber than the infamous "slap of five" thread started by the same poster?

thanks

Dunno, the "Larry Williams is wearing a hat." was also a gem.

And the "Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting" thread 72
hours before John Dawson committed.  Aging like fine wine, IMO.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Do I actually have to read any of this thread to confidently state that this is even dumber than the infamous "slap of five" thread started by the same poster?

thanks

Take 18min. and listen to this.

http://www.gomarquette.com/blog/

The thread is most 1 or 2 guys going off of the deep end, and several others trying to back them down. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

The podcast is a better use of you time.

[NersEllenson]

Dunno, the "Larry Williams is wearing a hat." was also a gem.

And the "Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting" thread 72
hours before John Dawson committed.  Aging like fine wine, IMO.

Sorry Lab - didn't comment on Larry's hat...and would love to see where I said Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting...

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

[warriorchick]

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

How about this:  It was an off-the-cuff remark in which he was trying to say that no scenario is off the table....or maybe he doesn't want to show his cards right now....or maybe he simply enjoys fracking with you....

[jficke13]

How about this:  It was an off-the-cuff remark in which he was trying to say that no scenario is off the table....or maybe he doesn't want to show his cards right now....or maybe he simply enjoys fracking with you....

Maybe it was this plus the fact that LW perhaps hasn't been a politician where any statement is fair game to be taken out of context to provide a soundbite to attack him by people who don't like him.

[mu03eng]

Sorry Lab - didn't comment on Larry's hat...and would love to see where I said Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting...

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

As someone that has been critical of LW, your reaction seems crazy Ners.  If you listen to the whole interview I think he comes off like he has a complete grasp of the issues and understands the impact while also trying not to overpromise to the fanbase because he absolutely shouldn't back himself into a corner in public.  Quite frankly it's some of his finest work to date, and I think you are really looking for boogiemen if this is how you react.

[JakeBarnes]

I'll save everyone the hassle of reading any of the thread.  Quick summary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

[GGGG]

How about this:  It was an off-the-cuff remark in which he was trying to say that no scenario is off the table....or maybe he doesn't want to show his cards right now....or maybe he simply enjoys fracking with you....

Exactly.  Even though this has been explained to him multiple times, he will claim that no one is answering his question.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Sorry Lab - didn't comment on Larry's hat...and would love to see where I said Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting...

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

Ners, Larry was the head of AD's in the West Coast Conferece which includes Gonzaga...an affiliation of private, religiously-based schools who only offer Olympic Sports. LW was making an anology that Gonzaga, the basketball elite of the conference, seems to have a model that works as they are able to use the small conference, with less games, as a launching pad to schedule more national games against top schools and still be successful. The Gang of Seven is about to embark on a path of becoming the elite Olympics sport conference, but all the schools will be strong in hoops heritage. That was his analogy and that is what the difference is vs. the Zags.  His point: He has studied all the alternatives.

As I said, I was questioning why the public shows of the seven in the past couple of days...but as time goes on today, it is apparent they are moving to dissolve. More so, unlike the panic of others, they appear to have actually studied their choices and have given the Commish notice that Tulane was the last straw and they intend to take back the confernce to its roots.  They seem to have cover in the by-laws, an out clause in the MSG contract for the tournament, the window to vote, and reading between the lines, they may even have a media deal in-waiting with ESPN (at least consultations).

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Sorry Lab - didn't comment on Larry's hat...and would love to see where I said Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting...

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

Maybe at this point it's better to direct your question(s) at LW himself.

You could email him directly, or maybe he'll be on with Homer again sometime in the future (email homer?).

I don't think anybody here is going to give you the answer you want... and quite frankly LW probably won't either... but at least you might get some clarity.

[leever]

If the "big pond" is Onondaga Lake or the Cuyahoga River, perhaps MU is better off in the small pond.  At least it's stable.

Wait!  Didn't the Cayahoga start on fire some years ago?  We should probably worry about that.

Now, Onondaga Lake is different - never started on fire as far as I recall.  But it is shallow - only 35 feet deep on average.  We might need a deeper pond to play in.

[The Equalizer]

STILL WAITING  for anyone/someone to make a valid point as to why it was good judgment/smart to even float the idea of possibly going the route of a Gonzaga - which was my original question in the whole thread...and I wonder why...because there is no good explanation...it was a bone-headed comment.

I bet you're the type of guy who walks into the car dealer and tells the sales manager how much you just  love the Explorer and would never ever ever consider driving a crappy Chevy, Jeep or GMC.

You flunk Negotiating 101.

You always want the other side to think you're indifferent to the other options--even if you really do have a preference.

[lab_warrior]

Sorry Lab - didn't comment on Larry's hat...and would love to see where I said Buzz is purposefully tanking at recruiting...

Sure, right here, GRIMEY.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=33613.msg409688#msg409688

It was a rough week for sure...perhaps a pre-cursor of things to come on the recruiting trail moving forward?  Wonder if this is just coincidental?  Or, perhaps if some of the passion for MU that once existed has been reduced, and we are now seeing this manifested.  But hey, I'm already in the tin foil club so nothing shocking about this post.

FYI, that was on Sept. 23... soooooooo, on Sept. 26, Dawson commits, a mere 3 days after that particular
Glenn-Beck-sobbing-at-the-chalkboard masterpiece.  You know, because Buzz had lost his passion
for MU, and it was starting to "manifest". 
Suuurrrre.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=33685.msg410146#msg410146 

KEEP GOING, GRIMEY!

[NersEllenson]

Sure, right here, GRIMEY.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=33613.msg409688#msg409688


FYI, that was on Sept. 23... soooooooo, on Sept. 26, Dawson commits, a mere 3 days after that particular
Glenn-Beck-sobbing-at-the-chalkboard masterpiece.  You know, because Buzz had lost his passion
for MU, and it was starting to "manifest". 
Suuurrrre.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=33685.msg410146#msg410146 

KEEP GOING, GRIMEY!

No where does it say purposefully tanking recruiting...just wondering if the passion had been reduced...there's a difference.....look forward to your next great sleuth search to uncover where I commented on Larry's Hat...

[Aughnanure]

I for one like our arrogant SOB athletic director. Bout time somebody started acting like there was something to win here.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Take 18min. and listen to this.

http://www.gomarquette.com/blog/

The thread is most 1 or 2 guys going off of the deep end, and several others trying to back them down. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

The podcast is a better use of you time.

Thanks Ammo!

[JTBMU7]

"There might be well articulated and very deep reasons why you would do it otherwise. But dog-gone-it, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about making sure that Marquette is in a position that it can take advantage of the great investment it's made in being successful in basketball."

that's an awesome statement and good on LW for strapping on a pair and sticking up for MU. this is the first we've heard from any of the C7 adminstrators on this topic and i'm glad it's our guy making the comments and relating them specifically to MU and his desire to put us in a solid postition.

[lab_warrior]

No where does it say purposefully tanking recruiting...just wondering if the passion had been reduced...there's a difference.....look forward to your next great sleuth search to uncover where I commented on Larry's Hat...

Actually, no there's not.  You were implying that Buzz was tanking at recruiting, flat out.  I do enjoy the irony of you arguing semantics and REAL MEANING of comments, though, especially in this thread.  

And I'll look forward to your next great, whiny baby, spiteful pants-s****ing, temper tantrum when LW makes any kind of public appearance or comments in print, radio, or televised media.  Seriously, again, just start one big "I irrationally hate Larry Williams" thread and just post there.  One stop shopping.

[NersEllenson]

Ever consider this scenario - the Atlantic 10 (which you'll note has Atlantic in its title), invites Georgetown and Villanova only?  Maybe St. Johns? Looks at a 18 team league just as the Big East once was....

Would Nova and Georgetown (if they can't get into a BCS league - which I still believe could happen for these two programs), rather join that league and abandon relationships with Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul, and Marquette?

Does a 10 team Catholic league (with Butler and VCU) draw more of TV deal (per team) than what the current A-10 + Georgetown, Nova, and possibly St. John's would?

[GGGG]

Why would Georgetown and Nova join the A10?  They don't want to be in a conference with GW, LaSalle and St. Joes.

It is much more a likely scenario that the C7 stick together and cherry pick schools that add value.

[Aughnanure]

Ever consider this scenario - the Atlantic 10 (which you'll note has Atlantic in its title), invites Georgetown and Villanova only?  Maybe St. Johns? Looks at a 18 team league just as the Big East once was....

Would Nova and Georgetown (if they can't get into a BCS league - which I still believe could happen for these two programs), rather join that league and abandon relationships with Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul, and Marquette?

Long answer: No.

[NersEllenson]

Why would Georgetown and Nova join the A10?  They don't want to be in a conference with GW, LaSalle and St. Joes.

It is much more a likely scenario that the C7 stick together and cherry pick schools that add value.

I tend to agree with you...but just threw it out there for consideration.  However, cross-town rivalry games aren't necessarily a bad thing....and though Seton Hall, Providence, and DePaul have better basketball history - they haven't been any good for the better part of the last 15-20 years...not sure they've been better collectively than have GW, LaSalle and St. Joe's...

[GGGG]

You don't understand the mindset.  Georgetown views themselves as superior to GW.  They don't want to be in the same conference.  Same with Nova and the Philly schools.

If the C7 stick together, and add the likes of Xavier and some others, you have the best and most valuable, basketball-only conference in the country.  They aren't leaving that for the A10.

[MUUWUWM]

This is a totally insane thread...can we lock it now?

[madtownwarrior]

And change the title to - Only read this if you want to see Ners make and idiotic argument with everybody else....

This is a totally insane thread...can we lock it now?