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[mu03eng]

Keep one location, traveling conference tournaments are stupid.

+1

And with Barclay's there, MSG isn't as critical and in fact it might be preferable to move to Barclay's and get a better contract, plus new conference new location.

I know I'm putting a large amount of faith on our administration to do things right, but I really do this in 6 months this league concept will be a done deal and a basketball only conference becomes a reality.  There is far too many reasons to do it and the timing is entirely too convenient not to do it.

[GGGG]

A10 already has a contract for Barclay's.

If, by chance, they lost MSG, this new conference would be in excellent shape to make a push for the 2nd best tournament location in the US...

Indianapolis. 

This should be in teal right?

[MileHigh]

If, by chance, they lost MSG, this new conference would be in excellent shape to make a push for the 2nd best tournament location in the US...

Indianapolis.

Yes, losing the Garden would sting, but Indy may very well be a consolation prize that's even superior to the Garden in many ways.

+1...I wouldn't complain.

But before you mentioned it, Indy I think would be a good place.  Its in the heart of the Big Ten.  Good transportation in and out.  Plus the Big Ten has failed to show their commitment to Indy as the home of their championships.  They are at the United Center this year.

Bankers Life, formerly Conseco, is a very nice venue.  I doubt you could fill a Lucas Oil...but we can be greedy  

[mu03eng]

A10 already has a contract for Barclay's.

Yeah but if the new league has several teams from the A10, especially the high value ones, I would think Barclay's has an out.  Besides, in the short term MSG would still want a tourny there so I don't know that we'd lose MSG right away giving time to either renegotiate with MSG or move to Barclay's

[🏀]

Meh, seemed to work alright for CUSA when we were in it.

I believe it cheapens the experience. The tournament should be a destination. Rhode Island, New Jersey, Dayton and Milwaukee aren't destinations to be advertising.

[Benny B]

A10 already has a contract for Barclay's.



This should be in teal right?

I challenge you to find a better tournament locale than Indy.

[MerrittsMustache]

I challenge you to find a better tournament locale than Indy.

Maui?

[GGGG]

I challenge you to find a better tournament locale than Indy.

Again, are you really being serious?

Indianapolis is a nice place, that would run a nice, efficient tournament.  But as far as an entertainment destination goes, you might as well put it in Milwaukee or Cincinnati.  Honestly, outside of basketball, there is no reason for fans from the east coast teams to travel there.

The Big East is at its heart an east coast conference.  MSG is in the heart of Manhattan.  If it can't be there, it needs to be in a place like Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Washington.

[mu03eng]

Again, are you really being serious?

Indianapolis is a nice place, that would run a nice, efficient tournament.  But as far as an entertainment destination goes, you might as well put it in Milwaukee or Cincinnati.  Honestly, outside of basketball, there is no reason for fans from the east coast teams to travel there.

The Big East is at its heart an east coast conference.  MSG is in the heart of Manhattan.  If it can't be there, it needs to be in a place like Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Washington.

Wholeheartedly agree.  Indy is quaint as a championship tourney and since it's more centrally located so I might travel there with a friend to go to the tourney.  However having it at a destination location like NYC gets me, my friend and our wives out there, gets casual fans interested from NYC, and keeps the east coast recruiting access open.

[🏀]

Again, are you really being serious?

Indianapolis is a nice place, that would run a nice, efficient tournament.  But as far as an entertainment destination goes, you might as well put it in Milwaukee or Cincinnati.  Honestly, outside of basketball, there is no reason for fans from the east coast teams to travel there.

The Big East is at its heart an east coast conference.  MSG is in the heart of Manhattan.  If it can't be there, it needs to be in a place like Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Washington.

+1

[mu03eng]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/182976271.html

Another thread, but according to a well connected Hunt, MU is on-board with the bball only conference which is very encouraging.  If MU is floating this now, I suspect this is closer to reality than not.

[Benny B]

Again, are you really being serious?

Indianapolis is a nice place, that would run a nice, efficient tournament.  But as far as an entertainment destination goes, you might as well put it in Milwaukee or Cincinnati.  Honestly, outside of basketball, there is no reason for fans from the east coast teams to travel there.

The Big East is at its heart an east coast conference.  MSG is in the heart of Manhattan.  If it can't be there, it needs to be in a place like Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Washington.

Do you really want to debate this?  I've got a slow morning in front of me and my batteries are fully recharged from the drubbing of UW this weekend.  Spin the wheel at your own risk...

[mu03eng]

Do you really want to debate this?  I've got a slow morning in front of me and my batteries are fully recharged from the drubbing of UW this weekend.  Spin the wheel at your own risk...

I really want to debate this.  Are you just being a contrarian?  Indy has a good venue and is a small city that is easy to travel in.  However there is no reason to go there other than the tourney.  Hell look at the B1G championship that was less than 50% full this year.

[Niv Berkowitz]

Wholeheartedly agree.  Indy is quaint as a championship tourney and since it's more centrally located so I might travel there with a friend to go to the tourney.  However having it at a destination location like NYC gets me, my friend and our wives out there, gets casual fans interested from NYC, and keeps the east coast recruiting access open.

Add my +whatever to that. You can't have that tourney in Indy. It has to be somewhere out east. Just does. Indy has no bearing on the old-guard in that new conference. It's in the middle of B10 country. And it's not a destination/well-regarded city throughout most of the country. Sorry, but there's an economical reason for east coast bias'. It should be in NYC or Philly.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I challenge you to find a better tournament locale than Indy.

Indy is a great place, but there is one major problem.  Not one school in this proposed league is from Indy or the state of Indiana.  For that matter, very few schools in this proposed league are from the Midwest.  What makes anyone think the locals are going to support a tournament?  I get the argument about the travel for other schools, but for a conference tournament to be successful at the gate you need the local folks also.  I don't think Indy works for that reason.

Might as well have it in Vegas....I kid, but at least people would show up because of the city.

In this proposed league with the east coast corridor still very much at the heart of the matter with NYC, Philly, D.C., my guess is you have to keep it back there.  Let's also not forget if this league breaks up, the MSG loses out as well.  You might find that the MSG very much wants to do a deal for this basketball tournament even if it isn't the Big East tournament.  There is more to gain for them with a tournament of these basketball schools than ones with the leftover football schools.

[GGGG]

Do you really want to debate this?  I've got a slow morning in front of me and my batteries are fully recharged from the drubbing of UW this weekend.  Spin the wheel at your own risk...

Yes.  I am interested as to why you think Indianapolis is anything more than a nice midwestern city.  Believe me, I am there all of the time.  It's not all that exciting.

[Skatastrophy]

The tourney should stay at MSG.

Otherwise, if we end up gutting the A10 by taking their best teams we should take the Brooklyn arena for our tourney along with them.

Edit:  I, too, would be disappointed with anything having to do with Indianapolis.

[Hards Alumni]

Indy is a great place, but there is one major problem.  Not one school in this proposed league is from Indy or the state of Indiana.  For that matter, very few schools in this proposed league are from the Midwest.  What makes anyone think the locals are going to support a tournament?  I get the argument about the travel for other schools, but for a conference tournament to be successful at the gate you need the local folks also.  I don't think Indy works for that reason.

Might as well have it in Vegas....I kid, but at least people would show up because of the city.

In this proposed league with the east coast corridor still very much at the heart of the matter with NYC, Philly, D.C., my guess is you have to keep it back there.  Let's also not forget if this league breaks up, the MSG loses out as well.  You might find that the MSG very much wants to do a deal for this basketball tournament even if it isn't the Big East tournament.  There is more to gain for them with a tournament of these basketball schools than ones with the leftover football schools.

Well, if Butler is added we have an Indiana school... and if Creighton and SLU are added the conference is somewhat split between the coast and the midwest.

[JTBMU7]

I challenge you to find a better tournament locale than Indy.

Chicago, DC, Philly, Brooklyn.

[nyg]

If no MSG, then maybe the tournament can be rotated amongst the schools.  

[brewcity77]

I'd hope for MSG or DC. The venue should be a destination with more than just an arena. If we had Butler and ND, I'd agree with Indy as a possible location, but a clear 3rd to the other two. Also don't like the rotating idea. Too often it would end up in a crap location.

[Benny B]

Yes.  I am interested as to why you think Indianapolis is anything more than a nice midwestern city.  Believe me, I am there all of the time.  It's not all that exciting.

Thank you.  Watch for the thread shortly.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, if Butler is added we have an Indiana school... and if Creighton and SLU are added the conference is somewhat split between the coast and the midwest.

But right now none of them are in this league.  Even if you add Butler, they are way down the pecking order to get people in Indiana excited to come out and watch people play.

More importantly, the Big Ten has their tournament there or Chicago (it alternates).  Nothing better than to have the Big Ten tournament sell out while our tournament gets 30% in the same city...nothing screams big time like that.

This is a bad idea to have it in Indy UNLESS you do an alternating East Coast and Midwest situation that is opposite the Big Ten.  Now you have something you might be able to work with.  Have the tournament in NYC and Indy every other year might work, but you need to have it in Indy when the Big Ten is not there.  Still don't think the locals will get behind this, but they will get behind it certainly more if there isn't competition from the Big Ten tournament at the same time.

[MileHigh]

Since everyone has an opinion about which city is the best, let's get a league first.  I am curious if these 7 schools have attempted to contact Butler, Xavier, and company...This whole idea could hit a dead end if we can't poach them.

Once we have a league, then we can discuss alternative sites if MSG doesn't work out.

http://visitindy.com/

[bkooncy]

I don't think the tourney location really matters.  What does matter is that the winner of the tourney gets an automatic bid to the NCAA Tourney.  Does anyone know how long it takes a new conference to earn an automatic berth to the tourney?