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teamdee

We need our guys to start playing with toughness like Derrick Wilson.

JD

Derrick is that you?

I agree, but i think Vander has been our toughest player this year.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Benny B

Check the blotter... make sure Derrick didn't take someone down at Webb's last night.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: JDuquaine on December 06, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Derrick is that you?

I agree, but i think Vander has been our toughest player this year.

Agreed.  His mental game is on point, and it's showing in the box scores.

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: teamdee on December 06, 2012, 09:11:45 AM
We need our guys to start playing with toughness like Derrick Wilson.
I agree.  Great post!!

Bocephys

Quote from: JDuquaine on December 06, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Derrick is that you?

I agree, but i think Vander has been our toughest player this year.

Well sure, but we're not allowed to praise Vander on this board.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Bocephys on December 06, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Well sure, but we're not allowed to praise Vander on this board.

Not to mention that Derrick is touted by many as a prime transfer candidate once Duane Wilson comes on board.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Blue Horseshoe

Quote from: teamdee on December 06, 2012, 09:11:45 AM
We need our guys to start playing with toughness like Derrick Wilson.

Define toughness.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: LittleMurs on December 06, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
Not to mention that Derrick is touted by many as a prime transfer candidate once Duane Wilson comes on board.

No idea why they'd think that.

JD

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 06, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
No idea why they'd think that.

Agree, i expect Derrick to start ahead of Duane, i'm not sure why there's speculation he shouldn't.

Anybody?  I haven't seen much film on Duane, but i think Derrick is going to be very good and is showing signs already of HUGE improvment.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 06, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
No idea why they'd think that.

Me neither, but such is the logic of the premature "How do we get to the roster limit next year" threads.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

DSEEagle

I think Derrick has carved his role as a backup point guard. I think he'll start at the beginning of next year but it will be too hard to keep such an offensive talent like Duane off the floor. As solid as he's played this year he is too limited offensively.

Agree with toughness though. This should be especially targeted at Jamil.

mubb34

Quote from: JDuquaine on December 06, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
Agree, i expect Derrick to start ahead of Duane, i'm not sure why there's speculation he shouldn't.

Anybody?  I haven't seen much film on Duane, but i think Derrick is going to be very good and is showing signs already of HUGE improvment.


Heres video on Duane from last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpEFm-z8rJY

DSEEagle

Quote from: mubb34 on December 06, 2012, 01:20:47 PM

Heres video on Duane from last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpEFm-z8rJY

You will not be able to keep that offense off the floor in place of Derrick. Especially after this year where we will have a TON of problems scoring.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Duane looks really good. Nice touch on the jumper.

With this said, Derrick is improving nicely, so I still expect him to start next year. Duane will get as many minutes as his defense allows. That seems to be how Buzz works the frosh. Defense=playing time.

20min of Wilson. 20 min. of Wilson. Nice mix.

GGGG

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 06, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
No idea why they'd think that.

1. They don't fully comprehend how players can develop in a couple years, and...

2. They are talking out of their ass.

MU82

If Duane Wilson is as good offensively as most think, his talent and size will demand that he plays significant minutes.

Buzz hasn't given most freshmen serious playing time, but that's because he hasn't had many 4- and 5-star freshmen. Vander played a good amount as a frosh and I'm guessing Duane Wilson, Burton and Johnson will get plenty of PT. There will be need and opportunity.

Derrick Wilson is a tough kid and a nice defensive player. As much as Junior frustrates us sometimes, he has it all offensively over Derrick. By all accounts, Duane will be better than both; some might argue he is already.
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JD

If some scoopers think Duane will start next year due to his offensive talent, what's the reason Buzz doesn't start Derrick instead of Junior then?  So far, after watching all of the games, i feel Derrick has been better than Junior.

I can't see Buzz starting Duane next year, i just don't see it happening. Buzz has shown us that loyalty, seniority maybe above skill (Derrick v Junior)  Just my thoughts.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Bocephys

Quote from: JDuquaine on December 06, 2012, 02:33:08 PM
If some scoopers think Duane will start next year due to his offensive talent, what's the reason Buzz doesn't start Derrick instead of Junior then?  So far, after watching all of the games, i feel Derrick has been better than Junior.

I can't see Buzz starting Duane next year, i just don't see it happening. Buzz has shown us that loyalty, seniority maybe above skill (Derrick v Junior)  Just my thoughts.

Let's also not forget that Derrick averaged plenty of points in high school and could be just deferring to other options at this point.  This is directly from ESPN's scouting report on him:
QuoteHe has an aggressive scorer's mindset, constantly looking to attack the defense, and able to put points on the board both by overpowering defenders en route to the rim or also from the perimeter with a much improved skill set.

DSEEagle

I averaged plenty of points in high school.

mileskishnish72

Freshmen have to be pretty special to get minutes from Buzz.
Duane will have to play defense. I think Derrick will continue to improve on the offensive end. Could see the offense/defense substitutions with Otule and Derrick alternating with Duane and Ox.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: DSEEagle on December 06, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
You will not be able to keep that offense off the floor in place of Derrick. Especially after this year where we will have a TON of problems scoring.

Oh, and just to double back to this comment, why would MU have more trouble scoring next year vs this year?

They lose Lockett, Junior and potentially Otule. None of them have been a strong scorer so far this season.

You figure with the improvement of Juan, Vander, Jamil, Gardner, Taylor, and Derrick Wilson, they will already be a better scoring team next year.

Add in a couple of Frosh. role players and I love that roster.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on December 06, 2012, 03:23:51 PM
Oh, and just to double back to this comment, why would MU have more trouble scoring next year vs this year?




I don't think he's saying we'll have more trouble scoring next year, rather that after all the trouble we'll have this year Buzz will be open to new blood helping next year.

I see his point, but it's also true that Buzz has shown a reluctance to give freshmen big minutes. Maybe, though, Duane (or JJJ, Dawson or Burton) will be good enough to change his mind.

Bocephys

Quote from: DSEEagle on December 06, 2012, 03:20:22 PM
I averaged plenty of points in high school.

Yea, but going down to the Y and forcefully subbing yourself in to 5th grade games to pad your stats isn't exactly the same as playing AAU ball.

DSEEagle

Quote from: Bocephys on December 06, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
Yea, but going down to the Y and forcefully subbing yourself in to 5th grade games to pad your stats isn't exactly the same as playing AAU ball.

I'm just saying I think we should pay a little more attention to his first 40 games at MU than whatever he did on the AAU circuit.

QuoteI don't think he's saying we'll have more trouble scoring next year, rather that after all the trouble we'll have this year Buzz will be open to new blood helping next year.

I see his point, but it's also true that Buzz has shown a reluctance to give freshmen big minutes. Maybe, though, Duane (or JJJ, Dawson or Burton) will be good enough to change his mind.

And this is correct.

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