Horribly embarrassed on national TV … again

[lab_warrior]

Avenue, BRINGING THE EYORE.  Too bad this didn't count for more than one loss.  ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, NO LESS THINK OF THE CHILDREN YADA YADA YADA (As if that isn't one of the most god awful, tired, played out tropes on this board.)



http://www.youtube.com/v/tKdcjJoXeEY&fs=1&source=uds


Say, where is that tremendously crafted "season checklist" again?  Feel free to check the "bad non-conference loss that has everyone questioning our BE readiness" or something of the sort.  

[Wareagle]

Anyone know what UNC Avenue said about the Tar Heels going down 29 to Butler and getting blown out by more than 20 to IU In the same week!

Is he also lamenting that UNC always gets embarrassed on national TV?

It wasn't half as bad as what UCONN Avenue said about the 2010-2011 Huskies.  Losing by 15 to Pitt?  Going 9-9 in the BEAST?!?!?  Why bother even showing up for the NCAA tournament?

[chapman]

I don't think I'll be able to get out of bed tomorrow knowing 150 million households tuned in to watch our game on ESPN2.  

If anyone I know actually did watch I'll tell them we laid a deuce on the Deuce.  Since our next game will be our 6th nationally televised game we can hope it goes a little better.

[MU Avenue]

PTM, AnotherMU84, Cooby Snacks, lab_warrior and others are apparently fine with Marquette's having lost -- badly -- to Florida on, yes, national television.

That is fine. In fact, who cares?

I am among the faction that could barely watch the second half and is deeply concerned about what I saw tonight and what it could indicate for the remainder of this season and beyond.

Marquette looked as bad as any MU team I have seen in years.

And once again, this is an extremely important time for Marquette University and its basketball team. This is not a good time for MU to be annihilated in an important game that is watched by a nation.

Also, lab_warrior, you might want to consult your dictionary concerning the definition of "trope."

[Tugg Speedman]

MU Avenue

As I noted above we have 20 nationally televised games this year (would have been 21 if the carrier classic was not cancelled).  Again that does not count the BE tourney and/or the NCAA and NIT.

We only play 11 games that are not nationally televised.  

Six BE games (Depaul, Seton Hall (2), Rutgers, G-Town (Jan 5) and Prov)
5 non-conference games (Southeast Louisiana, UMBS, Savannah Sate, Green Bay and North Carolina Central)

Which of these non-nationally televised games would be ok to lose?

Losing any of these games by even one point (except G-town) would be a bigger embarrassment than what happened tonight.

[Mutaman]

I really don't understand the Cadougan hate...

Last year he had 183 assists, good for 9th most in a season in MU history. That sounds like a point guard I want on my team.

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/single_season_assists

He disappears in prime time..

[ATWizJr]

MU Avenue

As I noted above we have 20 nationally televised games this year (would have been 21 if the carrier classic was not cancelled).  Again that does not count the BE tourney and/or the NCAA and NIT.

We only play 11 games that are not nationally televised.  

Six BE games (Depaul, Seton Hall (2), Rutgers, G-Town (Jan 5) and Prov)
5 non-conference games (Southeast Louisiana, UMBS, Savannah Sate, Green Bay and North Carolina Central)

Which of these non-nationally televised games would be ok to lose?

Losing any of these games by even one point (except G-town) would be a bigger embarrassment than what happened tonight.

If we want to continue to be thought of as an aspiring elite team and have 20 nationally televised games then we better not lose any of the 6 you mentioned and we better not get creamed by Florida.  It's ok to lose to a nationally ranked team in which we are competitive on their floor.  A 30+ point cupcake-like, buy-game type, embarrassment on national TV is not ok.

[hairy worthen]

That is fine. In fact, who cares?

I am among the faction that could barely watch the second half and is deeply concerned about what I saw tonight and what it could indicate for the remainder of this season and beyond.

Marquette looked as bad as any MU team I have seen in years.

And once again, this is an extremely important time for Marquette University and its basketball team. This is not a good time for MU to be annihilated in an important game that is watched by a nation.

Also, lab_warrior, you might want to consult your dictionary concerning the definition of "trope."

Get a grip.

It's one basketball game, not as bad as say making fun of Mike Hunts name or having Ann Romney speak at MU.

[ATWizJr]

Grip this.

[SaveOD238]

He disappears in prime time..

Because good teams key in on him as the key to our offense. 

[hairy worthen]

Grip this.

grip what be more specific

[ATWizJr]

grip what be more specific

Sorry Miss.  Someone else will have to break your heart.

[hairy worthen]

Sorry Miss.  Someone else will have to break your heart.

Oooh... that's a good one.  What are you in 6th grade.   I guess you have nothing to grip, and you are calling me "Miss"

Elite teams have bad nights and even bad seasons.  Kentucky has 2 losses already, NC just had their ass handed to them by Indiana.  If you can't see that MU is trending upward then you are not very perceptive.  It's a bad loss, still only one game, no reason to go ape crap. Buzz will get some things fixed, players will improve and they will get better.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Just to be clear:

Scoopers are now debating the appropriate amount of RAGE they should be experiencing?

The correct answer is none. Get over it. Move on.

These are college kids. They are going to have the occasional clunker. So what. Big deal.

[GGGG]

I really don't understand the Cadougan hate...

Last year he had 183 assists, good for 9th most in a season in MU history. That sounds like a point guard I want on my team.

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/single_season_assists

I don't "hate" the guy, but a good point guard cannot pick up two stupid fouls early in a game.  (One was over the back...the other was when he tried to pick up a charge.)  Derrick Wilson played adequately in that he didn't turn the ball over much, seemed pretty unflappable against the press, and showed *something* on the offensive end.  Junior was just bad.

He won't always be bad however...but last night he was.

[hairy worthen]

I don't "hate" the guy, but a good point guard cannot pick up two stupid fouls early in a game.  (One was over the back...the other was when he tried to pick up a charge.)  Derrick Wilson played adequately in that he didn't turn the ball over much, seemed pretty unflappable against the press, and showed *something* on the offensive end.  Junior was just bad.

He won't always be bad however...but last night he was.

I have been a JC supporter, but his play has not been good for the most part this year.  The foul problem is a concern, also too many turnovers for a senior point guard. It seems like he is forcing the issue too much, trying to be the senior leader. I am sure he will get it together, the team needs him to.

[tower912]

UNC got embarrassed on 'national tv' twice in 2 weeks.    Somehow they soldier on.    Some days you are the dog, some days you are the hydrant.    Last night MU was the hydrant.    Learn what you can, use it as motivation, move on. 

[madtownwarrior]

JC had some terrible turnovers last night...  not even getting the offense started in some cases..

I have been a JC supporter, but his play has not been good for the most part this year.  The foul problem is a concern, also too many turnovers for a senior point guard. It seems like he is forcing the issue too much, trying to be the senior leader. I am sure he will get it together, the team needs him to.

[ATWizJr]

Oooh... that's a good one.  What are you in 6th grade.   I guess you have nothing to grip, and you are calling me "Miss"

Elite teams have bad nights and even bad seasons.  Kentucky has 2 losses already, NC just had their ass handed to them by Indiana.  If you can't see that MU is trending upward then you are not very perceptive.  It's a bad loss, still only one game, no reason to go ape crap. Buzz will get some things fixed, players will improve and they will get better.

Punctuation, Miss.  With 50+ years of MU Fandom, I've seen plenty of trending.  Still don't like the abyss we fell into at Florida.

[hairy worthen]

  Punctuation, Miss.  With 50+ years of MU Fandom, I've seen plenty of trending.  Still don't like the abyss we fell into at Florida.

agree, I just don't think they are as bad as they looked last night. You are not seeing the forest for the trees.

[🏀]

MU Avenue's National Televised Outrage

Barro was only one of Marquette's players who wet himself tonight on a national stage.

After Ousmane struggled against David Padgett of Louisville, second team All-Big East.

I have not done the research, but it seems Marquette more often than not loses when playing in nationally televised basketball games.

After losing at Madison.

The loss to Vanderbilt on December 29, 2011, was embarrassing and humiliating. One of the worse showings Marquette has had in decades, and another awful performance on national television.

No one today is discussing how the outrageously bad home loss to Vanderbilt on December 29, 2011, compares to Marquette's loss to Team X a year ago, Team Y three years ago or Team Z back in 2003.

And to some here, especially AnotherMU84: Your desire to debate which loss might have been "bigger" or "worse" or more relevant is silly and, in AnotherMU84's case, difficult to understand.

The only loss that matters to and for Marquette right now is the 74-57 pounding that MU took at home December 29, 2011. A thrashing and a whipping by Vanderbilt that was shown on national television.

It is the kind of loss that has people asking questions and expressing a lot of doubt.

Note: MU Avenue was then proven wrong in that thread

Marquette's loss to Vanderbilt was bad basketball at its best. I am not sure how MU could have played worse.

Further, why does MU often seem to save its worst performances for national television? That was one horrible, embarrassing display that will have many people doubting Marquette basketball.

MU's players individually and collectively stunk almost every minute of that game.

An off night? That explanation is almost impossible to accept.

This was not even another in Marquette's long history of slow starts. Against Vanderbilt, Marquette never got going. Never!

Note: MU Avenue was then proven wrong in that thread

It is really hard -- gutwrenching -- to again watch MU be beaten badly on national television.

We seem to play our worst when the most people are watching.

And no one should be fooled: MU was spanked today by what is a so-so Notre Dame team.

Note: MU Avenue was then proven wrong in that thread

Marquette looks woeful tonight -- on national TV -- against Cincinnati. You disagree?

Marquette ended up winning this game by 15, MU Avenue wrong again!

I have said and written that Marquette too often plays badly and loses by wide margins on national TV.

DERP, DERP, DERP, DERP.



MU Avenue is a sad broken record. All of his posts fit into the following categories:

1.) Dominic James isn't good.
2.) Ousmane isn't good.
3) Marquette never plays well on 'National Television'.
4.) Marquette always starts slow.
5.) Milwaukee Journal Sentinel grandstanding.

[GGGG]

If not sure if you are right or not PTM, but the effort get's you a gold star in my book.

[LON]

So, PTM, you went to bed early so you could get up and do that research well rested, right?

Bravo.

[🏀]

If not sure if you are right or not PTM, but the effort get's you a gold star in my book.

Pretty sure it's correct, 90% at worst. I went on a Russell Crowe, "A Beautiful Mind" trance there for a bit and I don't remember much.

[bradley center bat]

I don't get the "again" part. MU is 3-2-1 On national tv this season.

I'm sure this game didn't get a high TV rating with a NFL game on and L'ville & Rutgers on ESPN.