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ecompt

A tweet from Ohio State freshman quarterback Cardale Jones:

"Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are pointless."

Buckeyes must be proud. 

Otule's Glass Eye

Quote from: ecompt on October 05, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
A tweet from Ohio State freshman quarterback Cardale Jones:

"Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are pointless."

Buckeyes must be proud. 

Well at least he's going to class..

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

RushmoreAcademy

Shameful.   How long until his he puts up a retraction/apology or the coaches take his account down?

foreverwarriors

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on October 05, 2012, 05:17:08 PM
Shameful.   How long until his he puts up a retraction/apology or the coaches take his account down?

His account is already deleted.

Blue Horseshoe

I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU

real chili 83

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 05, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU

If true, a much bigger issue than LW v bw.   ;D

GGGG

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 05, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU


Jeez...really?  I remember 20+ years ago when member of the Political Science faculty had pictures of aborted fetuses all over his door.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 05, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU

IMO, it would have been perfectly correct for James South to be fired by Marquette for bullying behavior.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MUMBA

I trust the users of scoop to exercise some degree of skepticism when reading that link.  Lots of context missing in that piece of "journalism".

Benny B

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 05, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU

This isn't an issue of suppressing speech, it's an issue of an entitled OSU athlete.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 05, 2012, 03:31:08 PM
Well at least he's going to class..

This does not need to be in teal.  I also take Jones tweet to mean that he is actually going to class and would prefer not too.

That probably puts him way ahead of must tOSU "Student Athletes."

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Benny B on October 05, 2012, 09:55:48 PM
This isn't an issue of suppressing speech, it's an issue of an entitled OSU athlete.

Or maybe just an honest one.  It makes the NCAA quite nervous to be confronted with the hypocrisy that is created by the NFL and NBA using them for their minor league systems.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Benny B

Quote from: LittleMurs on October 06, 2012, 05:23:27 PM
Or maybe just an honest one.  It makes the NCAA quite nervous to be confronted with the hypocrisy that is created by the NFL and NBA using them for their minor league systems.

Meh... It takes two to tango. If the athletes don't like it, either go overseas or join an arena team for a couple years; otherwise you can pay your dues like everyone else did. Except LeBron, but of course, he's just all kinds of awesome.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

brewcity77

Quote from: Benny B on October 07, 2012, 12:57:36 AM
Meh... It takes two to tango. If the athletes don't like it, either go overseas or join an arena team for a couple years; otherwise you can pay your dues like everyone else did. Except LeBron, but of course, he's just all kinds of awesome.

Why should someone be forced to leave their country to work when work is available in their country? Yes, it worked for Brandon Jennings, but it hardly makes sense to force 18-year-old kids to go overseas to play when the NBA and NBADL are right here.

Second, Lebron was afforded that opportunity not because he was awesome, but because at the time everyone had that option. See also: Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, and Kwame Brown.

I love college basketball, but to say the system isn't hypocritical, especially considering how baseball works, is simply foolish. And the one-and-done system has only made it worse. In the past, a Lebron could be honest about things and go straight to the NBA, but by forcing these players to college, you are forcing guys that aren't interested in academics an won't need them for their chosen careers to attend class and by allowing such mercurial talents are encouraging schools like UCLA and Kentucky to find ways to play highest bidder.

It's ludicrous to say that this current system is for the good of the kids or the good of the game.

GGGG

Oh I think it is good for the NBA game.  Instead of scouting a bunch of high schoolers, they get to see them go up against a higher level of competition and simply wait an additional year.  It's not good for college basketball, but they don't really have a lot of good options.

Blue Horseshoe

Quote from: Benny B on October 05, 2012, 09:55:48 PM
This isn't an issue of suppressing speech, it's an issue of an entitled OSU athlete.

Sure it is. The idea that college athletes should be paid seems to be so radical that Jones shut down his twitter account.

Unfortunate situations like this are reasons why a school is on thefire.org's red light list. Yes, Marquette is on that list.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 07, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
Sure it is. The idea that college athletes should be paid seems to be so radical that Jones shut down his twitter account.

Unfortunate situations like this are reasons why a school is on thefire.org's red light list. Yes, Marquette is on that list.

what's thefire.org?  a site with neked ginger chicks?

Blue Horseshoe


Bocephys

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 07, 2012, 10:12:12 PM
Ohio State suspended him just for saying classes are pointless. Ridiculous.

https://twitter.com/brdispatch/statuses/254723381696528384

Suspending your third string freshman quarterback for a game that he had zero chance of playing in doesn't really mean all that much.  It does make it look like they're taking the matter seriously though.  Win win.

Blue Horseshoe

Quote from: Bocephys on October 07, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Suspending your third string freshman quarterback for a game that he had zero chance of playing in doesn't really mean all that much.  It does make it look like they're taking the matter seriously though.  Win win.

It doesn't matter what string he is and it doesn't matter if you agree with his stance. The only thing that matters is that a student was suspended/punished for saying they don't like class. Be wary of such an abuse of power and an administration that will take action against individuals exercising their 1st amendment rights.

nycwarrior

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 05, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I guess if we're talking about suppressing free speech, does anyone remember this incident at MU?
http://thefire.org/article/8130.html

Dave Berry responded in 09
http://youtu.be/tE3REvTJjXU

Somehow i missed the Dave Berry incident. How embarrassing.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 08, 2012, 09:27:57 AM
It doesn't matter what string he is and it doesn't matter if you agree with his stance. The only thing that matters is that a student was suspended/punished for saying they don't like class. Be wary of such an abuse of power and an administration that will take action against individuals exercising their 1st amendment rights.

This isn't a first amendment issue.

I don't think the government stopped him from saying anything. 

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 08, 2012, 09:37:54 AM
This isn't a first amendment issue.

I don't think the government stopped him from saying anything. 

+1 MU is not the Federal Government so the 1st amendment does not apply.

It is amazing now many people forget this little but incredibly important detail.

nathanziarek

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 07, 2012, 07:17:25 AM
Oh I think it is good for the NBA game.  Instead of scouting a bunch of high schoolers, they get to see them go up against a higher level of competition and simply wait an additional year.  It's not good for college basketball, but they don't really have a lot of good options.

Exactly. There's nothing technical I learned from 4 years of college that I couldn't have learned in one year of work. What college did get me was the opportunity to network, prove commitment, and learn to cooperate, among other character-building activities.

That's what my employer is paying for over a high school grad with the same technical experience.

For the professional leagues, forcing kids to wait a year or two is good business. It thins the weeds and provides them with talent that has proven they can work in a team-based system.

For college, it sucks...but the NCAA doesn't really hold any cards, here. They can't force four-year maximums. And they can't force the NBA to take one-and-dones.
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