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TallTitan34

A history of the mascots, which everyone here already knows.

http://www.uni-watch.com/

Skatastrophy


Lennys Tap

Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 11, 2012, 09:11:50 AM
That was a very nice writeup.

Agreed - sober, fact filled and fair recounting of a still contentious disagreement within the Marquette community.

muwarrior69


MUfan12

Quote from: TallTitan34 on September 11, 2012, 08:30:15 AM
A history of the mascots, which everyone here already knows.

http://www.uni-watch.com/

Can't believe you didn't get a mention as the mascot of the "post-Gold" era.

lab_warrior

Didn't think "Bricky" had any competition for worst mascot idea ever...then I saw Bleuteaux.  GUH.

Bocephys

So who here is the "anonymous" e-mailer?

🏀


chapman

Very well done.  And being a younger alum, I learned a few things from it.

TallTitan34

Quote from: PTM on September 11, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
Titan.

While I am a card carrying member of uni-watch, I am not the author.

Paul did a great job of creating my card:

MerrittsMustache

Solid write-up but the author failed to mention the con job that the Board of Trustees pulled on students and alums with the "re-vote" after Sanders' proposal.


Dr. Blackheart


Benny B

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on September 11, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
Solid write-up but the author failed to mention the con job that the Board of Trustees pulled on students and alums with the "re-vote" after Sanders' proposal.

IMO, that would have diluted an otherwise mostly speculation-free/fact-based historical summary.  I'm not disputing the con-job, but none of us can publicly confirm (at least without breaching some sort of confidentiality agreement) that the whole vote was a sham and nothing more than a deliberate attempt to manipulate/smooth/distract/etc. as some believe.

Unless you're simply talking about a mention regarding the the re-vote where Warrior votes weren't counted (and not the M.O. of the vote)... in which case, let's keep in mind that it's only a summary; there are dozens of additional footnotes the author could throw in there (including that vote), but that would turn a simple email into a novella.

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Benny B

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 11, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
Graduated mascots never die, they just fade away :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GGeKeXuPw

Rule #1 - Never reveal your identity.

I don't recall if it was Minneapolis 2003 or Winston-Salem 2007, but I recall walking into a bathroom in the team hotel just before the pep rally, where unbeknownst to me, our mascot was dressing himself (itself?) right inside the door.  After taking two steps into the bathroom and seeing what appeared to be an eviscerated & decapitated anthropomorphic bird who had apparently just feasted upon an unsuspecting college student moments before his demise, I hesitated for a moment as though I had just inadvertently stumbled upon a mafia assassination.  For a moment, it crossed my mind that I should turn around and leave the occupant in privacy before I came to my senses and realized that it was just a college mascot (and that I really had to use the facilities).  Nevertheless, my momentary "deer in the headlights" moment had me leaving the rest room feeling more embarrassed than the mascot's "handler."
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

MerrittsMustache

#14
Quote from: Benny B on September 11, 2012, 12:30:51 PM
IMO, that would have diluted an otherwise mostly speculation-free/fact-based historical summary.  I'm not disputing the con-job, but none of us can publicly confirm (at least without breaching some sort of confidentiality agreement) that the whole vote was a sham and nothing more than a deliberate attempt to manipulate/smooth/distract/etc. as some believe.

Unless you're simply talking about a mention regarding the the re-vote where Warrior votes weren't counted (and not the M.O. of the vote)... in which case, let's keep in mind that it's only a summary; there are dozens of additional footnotes the author could throw in there (including that vote), but that would turn a simple email into a novella.

I just meant that instead of saying, "There was a riotous cheer from the graduating students, but no change has been forthcoming." He could have said that there was a vote again in 2005, Warriors was not an option and Golden Eagles came out victorious.

In terms of the actual voting process, I referred to it as a con job because we were told that write-in votes for Warriors would not be counted and then they ended up counting the Warrior votes and seemingly passed it off as a sign the Marquette community preferred Golden Eagles to Warriors. I don't question the validity of the results but had they not told voters that Warrior votes would not be counted, Warriors would have gotten significantly more than the 10% of the vote it received.

warriorchick

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Quote from: lab_warrior on September 11, 2012, 10:43:52 AM
Didn't think "Bricky" had any competition for worst mascot idea ever...then I saw Bleuteaux.  GUH.


Okay, I know I am risking a permanent ban from MuScoop for admitting this, but in the NCAA-inspired spirit of full and complete disclosure, there is something I must tell all of you.  Please let me beg in advance for your forgiveness.












In the eighties, an off-the-cuff comment I made in the ASMU office inspired the creation of Bleuteaux.



But please, please, let me explain.  

A bunch of us were sitting around griping about the recent announcement that University officials had decided to do away with the First Warrior as the official symbol, and in a very unofficial capacity (as if Administration cared about ASMU's opinions, anyway) began to throw out alternatives.

I suggested some other type of warrior other than a Native American, such as a Spartan Warrior.  No one seemed to like that.  After several other ideas were tossed around, I said, "Well, we might just as well have some sort of generic mascot - you know, like the Phillies have -- what's it called?  The Phanatic? Just a big furry nondescript thing."  The conversation went on for a bit longer, but like most college discussions, eventually switched to where the good parties were going to be that night.

A few days later, one of the participants in the conversation showed me a picture he had drawn that very much resembled what became the Bleuteaux costume - the basketball shoes, the bobbing antennae, etc.  I was flattered that he chose to flesh out one of my ideas, but I didn't give it another thought until I the next basketball season, when I saw Bleuteaux on the court.

To this day, I can't believe that possibly the dumbest suggestion I've ever come up with is the only one Marquette has ever implemented  --- and between my roles as a student, and alumna, and a parent, I have given them plenty.
Have some patience, FFS.

GGGG

I knew there was a reason I hated ASMU.


Quote from: warriorchick on September 11, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
A few later, one of the participants in the conversation showed me a picture he had drawn that very much resembled what became the Bleuteaux costume - the basketball shoes, the bobbing antennae, etc.  I was flattered that he chose to flesh out one of my ideas, but I didn't give it another thought until I the next basketball season, when I saw Bleuteaux on the court.

jsglow was pretty desperate for warriorchick's attention even back then huh?

Benny B

Quote from: warriorchick on September 11, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
To this day, I can't believe that possibly the dumbest suggestion I've ever come up with is the only one Marquette has ever implemented...

Remember that old education saying about how there aren't any dumb questions... that doesn't mean there aren't any dumb answers.  But few are those amongst us who have never had such a moment of intellectual vacation.

And in MU's defense, such a phenomenon where talent is not utilized to its fullest and mediocrity is embraced is experienced in most organizations, public, private, business, education, government, etc.  Thankfully, MUBB is an exception.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

muwarrior69

Quote from: warriorchick on September 11, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
Okay, I know I am risking a permanent ban from MuScoop for admitting this, but in the NCAA-inspired spirit of full and complete disclosure, there is something I must tell all of you.  Please let me beg in advance for your forgiveness.












In the eighties, an off-the-cuff comment I made in the ASMU office inspired the creation of Bleuteaux.



But please, please, let me explain.  

A bunch of us were sitting around griping about the recent announcement that University officials had decided to do away with the First Warrior as the official symbol, and in a very unofficial capacity (as if Administration cared about ASMU's opinions, anyway) began to throw out alternatives.

I suggested some other type of warrior other than a Native American, such as a Spartan Warrior.  No one seemed to like that.  After several other ideas were tossed around, I said, "Well, we might just as well have some sort of generic mascot - you know, like the Phillies have -- what's it called?  The Phanatic? Just a big furry nondescript thing."  The conversation went on for a bit longer, but like most college discussions, eventually switched to where the good parties were going to be that night.

A few days later, one of the participants in the conversation showed me a picture he had drawn that very much resembled what became the Bleuteaux costume - the basketball shoes, the bobbing antennae, etc.  I was flattered that he chose to flesh out one of my ideas, but I didn't give it another thought until I the next basketball season, when I saw Bleuteaux on the court.

To this day, I can't believe that possibly the dumbest suggestion I've ever come up with is the only one Marquette has ever implemented  --- and between my roles as a student, and alumna, and a parent, I have given them plenty.

You must be a blond!

warriorchick

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 11, 2012, 01:52:32 PM
I knew there was a reason I hated ASMU.


jsglow was pretty desperate for warriorchick's attention even back then huh?

I promise you, jsglow would rather sing the Notre Dame Fight Song while dressed as a chorus girl from "Lord of the Dance" before he would take a scintilla of credit for The Blue Thing, as he calls it.
Have some patience, FFS.

real chili 83

Quote from: warriorchick on September 11, 2012, 07:16:50 PM
I promise you, jsglow would rather sing the Notre Dame Fight Song while dressed as a chorus girl from "Lord of the Dance" before he would take a scintilla of credit for The Blue Thing, as he calls it.

So that's what it takes for him to get out of the occasional doghouse he (and the rest of us married men) finds himself?  ;)

muwarrior87

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 11, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
Graduated mascots never die, they just fade away :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GGeKeXuPw

HOLLERRRRRR!!!! That gig got me an offer from the Wisconsin State Fair to be the cream puff! Haha.

77ncaachamps

I wrote in "Warriors" during the DiUlio-led fiasco.
SS Marquette

warriorchick

Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 11, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
HOLLERRRRRR!!!! That gig got me an offer from the Wisconsin State Fair to be the cream puff! Haha.

And they wouldn't even need to give you a costume.

Heeyo!
Have some patience, FFS.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 11, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I wrote in "Warriors" during the DiUlio-led fiasco.

I wrote in "Fightin' Conformists"
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

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