Author Topic: 2012 NFC North/NFL Thread (Read 194914 times)

GGGG · « **Reply #1025 on:** March 13, 2013, 12:39:06 PM »

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 13, 2013, 12:26:17 PM

And beyond that, if Walker was a true #1 why did his numbers nose dive in Denver? I know he got hurt, but he never really was that #1 guy.

Well, to be fair, he was the #1 guy his first year in Denver. 69 rec for 1084 yards...and the next was Rod Smith who had 52 and 512. But that was a pretty disappointing Denver team that was a year removed from hosting the AFC Championship Game. (Loss to Steelers.)

Blackhat · « **Reply #1026 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 13, 2013, 05:13:41 AM

The D upgrade will come through the draft like it always has. I love this signing as long as its only 3 years.

Got to ask if that's really been working though. Can we wait for the young guys to get more seasoning. We should be in win now mode.

jesmu84 · « **Reply #1027 on:** March 13, 2013, 04:08:23 PM »

Bush to Detroit... still need a lot more, but it's a good start.

Slightly OT...

Welker to Denver. Wow. Could be a great slot option for Manning.

tower912 · « **Reply #1028 on:** March 13, 2013, 04:39:44 PM »

The Lions signing Bush and Jones means they can focus on OL, DB and possibly DE in the draft.

RJax55 · « **Reply #1029 on:** March 13, 2013, 04:43:32 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 13, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

Bush to Detroit... still need a lot more, but it's a good start.

Slightly OT...

Welker to Denver. Wow. Could be a great slot option for Manning.

Lions needed to replace Best, so grabbing Bush is a nice replacement. Even in a passing league, having Stafford throw the ball 45 times a game is not a recipe for success.

Agree on Welker. Excellent situation for him.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #1030 on:** March 13, 2013, 04:54:45 PM »

Quote from: Stone Cold on March 13, 2013, 03:17:54 PM

Got to ask if that's really been working though. Can we wait for the young guys to get more seasoning. We should be in win now mode.

The problem is players getting injured. Our #1 pick was gone most of the year.

Blackhat · « **Reply #1031 on:** March 13, 2013, 05:14:40 PM »

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 13, 2013, 04:54:45 PM

The problem is players getting injured. Our #1 pick was gone most of the year.

Injuries are going to happen. TT has been using predominately draft only on d for awhile now and there are still some big soft spots. In theory by now TT should have his roster stocked to compensate for injuries.

akmarq · « **Reply #1032 on:** March 13, 2013, 05:30:41 PM »

Quote from: RJax55 on March 13, 2013, 04:43:32 PM

Agree on Welker. Excellent situation for him.

Bronocs fan here - great deal. They got him for 2 yrs at a rumored $14 mil. You figure he plays in DEN as long as Manning is there and they cut ties before the QB change.

Denver now has 3 WRs who went for 1000 yards last season.

martyconlonontherun · « **Reply #1033 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:04:01 PM »

Quote from: Stone Cold on March 13, 2013, 05:14:40 PM

Injuries are going to happen. TT has been using predominately draft only on d for awhile now and there are still some big soft spots. In theory by now TT should have his roster stocked to compensate for injuries.

What's easier to get depth? Adding youth at reasonable prices or trading/signing vets at high prices? TT strategy is perfect if you want depth. Your argument makes more sense if you think they have depth but need more impact players.

MU B2002 · « **Reply #1034 on:** March 14, 2013, 03:13:05 PM »

S jax to the falcons.

jesmu84 · « **Reply #1035 on:** March 14, 2013, 03:30:16 PM »

Matt Cassel to the Vikes

NavinRJohnson · « **Reply #1036 on:** March 14, 2013, 03:56:39 PM »

Quote from: MU B2002 on March 14, 2013, 03:13:05 PM

S jax to the falcons.

This is good. No good reason for the Packers to sign him. RB by far the easiest position to address in the draft. Just don't think it would have been money well spent. Much better directed toward others. Finley for starters.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #1037 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:45:57 PM »

I don't see why Atlanta would release Turner and then sign Jackson. They are basically the same player.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #1038 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:47:20 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Matt Cassel to the Vikes

Consensus Lock for NFC North with this move!

RJax55 · « **Reply #1039 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:57:15 PM »

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 14, 2013, 04:45:57 PM

I don't see why Atlanta would release Turner and then sign Jackson. They are basically the same player.

Best guess, probably due to cash. I'm guessing that the Falcons saved money by cutting Turner and replacing him with Jackson. I agreed though, in terms of talent and mileage, this seems like a wash.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #1040 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:59:30 PM »

Quote from: RJax55 on March 14, 2013, 04:57:15 PM

Best guess, probably due to cash. I'm guessing that the Falcons saved money by cutting Turner and replacing him with Jackson. I agreed though, in terms of talent and mileage, this seems like a wash.

But I even doubt that. You don't sign a 3 year deal for peanuts.

muarmy81 · « **Reply #1041 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:19:38 PM »

Greg Jennings to Vikings per ESPN

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #1042 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:30:32 PM »

Quote from: muarmy81 on March 15, 2013, 07:19:38 PM

Greg Jennings to Vikings per ESPN

29 year olds coming off of groin tears usually have great bounce back seasons... right?

I don't blame him for taking the money... any sensible athlete does.

Green Bay was fine without him all year, and will be fine next year.

ATWizJr · « **Reply #1043 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:40:44 PM »

5 years, 47.5MM 18MM guaranteed? Good luck.

hairy worthen · « **Reply #1044 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:41:31 PM »

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 15, 2013, 07:30:32 PM

29 year olds coming off of groin tears usually have great bounce back seasons... right?

I don't blame him for taking the money... any sensible athlete does.

Green Bay was fine without him all year, and will be fine next year.

I agree. I always liked Jennings I wish gb could have kept him. It will be interesting to see how he does without a h o f QB throwing to him and all kinds of other weapons to take the pressure off of him.

The queens basically traded an up and coming game changer for a declining receiver with recent injury issues.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #1045 on:** March 15, 2013, 08:01:00 PM »

BeeJay's probably linin' up his SB ducats as we type.

Canned Goods n Ammo · « **Reply #1046 on:** March 16, 2013, 06:04:40 AM »

Quote from: hairyworthen on March 15, 2013, 07:41:31 PM

I agree. I always liked Jennings I wish gb could have kept him. It will be interesting to see how he does without a h o f QB throwing to him and all kinds of other weapons to take the pressure off of him.

The queens basically traded an up and coming game changer for a declining receiver with recent injury issues.

And a first round pick.

They overpayed for Jennings, but they didn't have a ton of options.

Their WR corps should be better than last year (hard not to be)

Jennings
Jarius Wright (should be decent as a slot guy)
(insert 1st rd pick)
Rudolph at TE
Jerome Simpson

I think it's the best they could do in 1 off season.

GGGG · « **Reply #1047 on:** March 16, 2013, 10:27:43 AM »

I don't think the Packers should have dropped that kind of cash on Jennings, but I think he is still a pretty good receiver and the Vikings are going to get a couple good years out of him if he stays away from injury. Jennings is going to need someone on the other side of him though.

MUBBau · « **Reply #1048 on:** March 16, 2013, 10:30:10 AM »

Tom Crabtree to the Bucs, Packers just letting everyone go

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #1049 on:** March 16, 2013, 11:50:41 AM »

Again, they don't need Crabtree. Have the Packers let anyone go this year (aside from maybe Woodson) who had a huge impact last year? No.

And I don't think the cry babies will be out when we can resign Rodgers, Raji, and Matthews.

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