2012 NFC North/NFL Thread

[Blackhat]

Everyone in the NFL looks unnatural.  Except some qb's and kickers. 

Look at the Baltimore and 49er players.    You think they get ripped like that by eating chicken breast?

The NFL testing is a joke and no HGH testing.

[DegenerateDish]

Bears on national tv three times this upcoming season. At PIT for SNF in Week 3, hosting Giants on Oct 10 for Thurs night, and host Pokes for MNF first week of Dec. Bears close out season at home against Pack.

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 With great talent falling in their laps, the Bears take the 24 year old guard that started in ten college games.

Love it.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I have no problem with the Bears pick.Im glad they didnt take that TE from ND. Mostly cause I hate anything to do with Notre Dame but Bears shouldnt pick anything except offensive linemen until they can protect Cutler.

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I have no problem with the Bears pick.Im glad they didnt take that TE from ND. Mostly cause I hate anything to do with Notre Dame but Bears shouldnt pick anything except offensive linemen until they can protect Cutler.

Could have had him in the second round if they traded down, or similar talent with less character issues.

 It's a bad pick, but guess Emery thought he was the most talented on the board. Just like Shea.

[Jay Bee]

SKOL VIKINGS

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SKOL VIKINGS

That's a nice first round haul.

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SKOL VIKINGS

Patterson, too. Vikings are having a nice draft.

[jesmu84]

I thought all the FA acquisitions were supposed to allow the Bears to take the best player available? Kyle Long was not the best player available at 20. Eifert? Ogletree? Floyd?! Trufant? If you aren't taking 1 of those 4, trade down and get long in the second round. There was lots of trading down right around the Bears pick, although, according to Emery if Long was available then they weren't trading. Terrible pick.

And now hearing rumors of Bears trading down out of 2nd round to accumulate more picks. unnatural carnal knowledgeing terrible, if true.

Edit: Still annoyed.. if you're going to hold on to the pick and draft offense, what makes your team harder to defend... Kyle Long added to an already questionable line or Eifert added to Bennett, Marshall and Jeffrey? I still don't know how you pass up a potential Top 5 pick at 20 though (Floyd)

[MerrittsMustache]

I thought all the FA acquisitions were supposed to allow the Bears to take the best player available? Kyle Long was not the best player available at 20. Eifert? Ogletree? Floyd?! Trufant? If you aren't taking 1 of those 4, trade down and get long in the second round. There was lots of trading down right around the Bears pick, although, according to Emery if Long was available then they weren't trading. Terrible pick.

And now hearing rumors of Bears trading down out of 2nd round to accumulate more picks. unnatural carnal knowledgeing terrible, if true.

Edit: Still annoyed.. if you're going to hold on to the pick and draft offense, what makes your team harder to defend... Kyle Long added to an already questionable line or Eifert added to Bennett, Marshall and Jeffrey? I still don't know how you pass up a potential Top 5 pick at 20 though (Floyd)

Terrible pick by the Bears. A project with a history of alcohol abuse? Really? With Ogletree, Arthur Brown, Shariff Floyd, Eifert and Werner sitting on the board?

Other than some average production from the oft-injured Alshon Jeffery, the Bears got nothing from last year's draft class.

McClennin doesn't fit their scheme and was overwhelmed. Hardin was an injury-prone DB who (shockingly!) spent last season on IR. Rodriguez was an average FB who was not worth a 4th round pick. The other 2 draftees: practice squad and cut.

Not off to a great start in this draft either.

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I hope and I pray that either the Bears or the Vikings take Teo...it would make my Sundays all that more enjoyable.

[MUBurrow]

Patterson, too. Vikings are having a nice draft.

I liked that pick. It must have been tempting to look at Teo and be able to hold a presser saying "hey errbody, look! New defense!" But instead they took a better player who likely fits a more pressing need. It would have been even better if Tavon Austin were still around, but that's picking a nit.

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Terrible pick by the Bears. A project with a history of alcohol abuse? Really? With Ogletree, Arthur Brown, Shariff Floyd, Eifert and Werner sitting on the board?

I think you need to see what happens.  I mean, the alcohol issues were four years ago.  They may have overdrafted him, but they wanted to be sure.  It's too hard to grade a draft before the players actually get on the field.

[Lennys Tap]

I think you need to see what happens.  I mean, the alcohol issues were four years ago.  They may have overdrafted him, but they wanted to be sure.  It's too hard to grade a draft before the players actually get on the field.

Long's combine numbers and pedigree are great, but when you reach a player has to over perform to justify it. There was maybe a 60-80% chance He would have fallen to the Bears in the 2nd round (#50 overall). So how much better is Eifert, for example, than who they'll likely get at #50? In general, I'd rather let others do the reaching and take the higher graded players who fall to me as a result of that reaching.

[MerrittsMustache]

Long's combine numbers and pedigree are great, but when you reach a player has to over perform to justify it. There was maybe a 60-80% chance He would have fallen to the Bears in the 2nd round (#50 overall). So how much better is Eifert, for example, than who they'll likely get at #50? In general, I'd rather let others do the reaching and take the higher graded players who fall to me as a result of that reaching.

He may not have been there at #50, but he likely would have been there in the 35-40 range. The Bears could have (theoretically) traded down, added a pick or two and still gotten their man.

[tower912]

The Lions really rolled the dice with Ansah.   IMO, the 5 pick is not where you take that big of a gamble.   Immensely high ceiling, ridiculously low floor.    Here's hoping. 

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He may not have been there at #50, but he likely would have been there in the 35-40 range. The Bears could have (theoretically) traded down, added a pick or two and still gotten their man.

Well, if he is a 35-40..and they got him at the end of the first, I really don't think that is too terrible of a reach - especially if that is the guy they really want.

[MerrittsMustache]

Well, if he is a 35-40..and they got him at the end of the first, I really don't think that is too terrible of a reach - especially if that is the guy they really want.

The fact that it's being debated whether or not a 1st Round pick would have been available 15-30 picks later, tells me it's a reach. Aside from E.J. Manuel, do you think anyone else taken last night would have lasted another 20 picks? Or even 10 picks?

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The fact that it's being debated whether or not a 1st Round pick would have been available 15-30 picks later, tells me it's a reach. Aside from E.J. Manuel, do you think anyone else taken last night would have lasted another 20 picks? Or even 10 picks?

So what if the Bill traded down say 15 picks.  And whomever is in pick #14 takes him.  The Bills are kicking themselves then.

This is why I think some of this draft analysis gets silly.  If you see a guy you like and you *really* want, you should just take him even if you think he would be available 10-20 spots lower.  It really isn't worth the risk.

Now if the Bills were fine with either Manuel OR Smith, then I think you can make that trade.  Because the risk isn't as high.

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So what if the Bill traded down say 15 picks.  And whomever is in pick #14 takes him.  The Bills are kicking themselves then.

This is why I think some of this draft analysis gets silly.  If you see a guy you like and you *really* want, you should just take him even if you think he would be available 10-20 spots lower.  It really isn't worth the risk.

Now if the Bills were fine with either Manuel OR Smith, then I think you can make that trade.  Because the risk isn't as high.

It is silly to grade a draft without results unless it's a stupid pick. While Long may not have been stupid, Emery looks stupid when he makes quotes like, "We will draft the best available talent."

Long was surely not the best available player.

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Wow for you Pack fans.  Rogers signs extension for 110 million, with 40M payout next year.  Wow.......

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Wow for you Pack fans.  Rogers signs extension for 110 million, with 40M payout next year.  Wow.......

Packers have more than $200M in cash reserves.  Not going to be a problem.

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Amazingly friendly contract. Thought this one was going to hurt a lot more.

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Christian Ponder reacts...hilarious...

http://instagram.com/p/YlT8wXgZDF/

[Sir Lawrence]

Packers have more than $200M in cash reserves.  Not going to be a problem.

Time to issue more stock.