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GGGG

Quote from: bamamarquettefan on July 18, 2012, 03:28:42 PM
On a serious note, when we get complaints about overrecruiting I know everyone immediately is thinking about kicking another Newbill off the team, but this is why you have to always be recruiting.  You wake up one day and Mbakwe or TJ aren't in their dorm room.  We can just never play so short on players like with what Buzz inherited.


Hey, maybe with the whole Penn State thing going on, Newbill would want to transfer here!!!

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Nukem2 on July 18, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
Lockett only attempted 2 treys per game last year.  Obviously only taking a trey when wide open.

That's a good point.

A little deeper dive shows he only attempted 215 FGs, and 50 were 3pt attempts.

For reference:
Junior attempted 190 fgs, and 38 were 3pt attempts. (similar to Lockett in attempts, but not in efficiency)
DJO attempted 470 fgs and 200 were 3pt attempts.

So, while Lockett might not be DJO, if he plays in a more uptempo offense, and took more shots, he could be pretty good from 3pt.

Still, if Taylor and Mayo are gone, I'll have to go back to my original take on Jake Thomas: If he can defend, he'll play 10min./game.

MuMark

He certainly has shown the ability to hit the 3 in high school(over 40%). Did you have no idea if Steve Novak or Travis Diener could hit an outside shot before they came to MU?

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 18, 2012, 03:11:05 PM

Yes, but he is not "returning," and we have no idea if he can hit the outside shot.

Bocephys

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 18, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
That's a good point.

A little deeper dive shows he only attempted 215 FGs, and 50 were 3pt attempts.

For reference:
Junior attempted 190 fgs, and 38 were 3pt attempts. (similar to Lockett in attempts, but not in efficiency)
DJO attempted 470 fgs and 200 were 3pt attempts.

So, while Lockett might not be DJO, if he plays in a more uptempo offense, and took more shots, he could be pretty good from 3pt.

Still, if Taylor and Mayo are gone, I'll have to go back to my original take on Jake Thomas: If he can defend, he'll play 10min./game.


And score 20!

BubbaWilliams

Well, if him and Mayo aren't with us, they're against us.
"Marquette is so good defensively, they steal your mouth guards."

Groin_pull

Quote from: pux90mex on July 18, 2012, 03:19:57 PM
Nunn has said he will release his final list (not sure if it was 3 or 5) on Aug. 3. Prep Bullseye peeps think he's doing it as a sort of ultimatum for UCLA to offer.


I get the strong impression that MU is Nunn's safety school. Obviously, he's dying for UCLA to make an offer...and I'm assuming they haven't. If he gets nothing from UCLA (or Kentucky)...he'll probably make his way to MU. Just a guess.

chapman

Any chance Buzz has a call in to Melvin Johnson, top 100 2012 SG who just got a release from Miami?  Considering the potential for minutes perhaps he has some interest?

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/former-miami-signee-melvin-johnson-back-on-the-market/

From Dwight Burke's high school...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Melvin-Johnson-117224

Visited VCU today.  Also interest from SMU, USF, Villanova:

http://rvanews.com/sports/former-miami-sg-melvin-johnson-visits-vcu/62835

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Bocephys on July 18, 2012, 03:43:06 PM
And score 20!

No.

But, I have to say, how many drive and kicks have we seen that led to another drive and another kick?

It was worse 2 years ago. Butler drives and kicks to DJO, who drives and kicks to Blue, who drives into the lane where all of the defenders are standing.

There are open catch and shoot-type shots in MU's offense, especially with Blue, Junior, and conceivably Lockett driving the ball.

Plus, Gardner will require consistent double teams, so if they can teach him to give it up, that will lead to open looks.

I'm not saying Jake is the second coming, but I think he can be effective role player (offensively), especially given the other players MU has.

The question for me comes on defense.

Golden Avalanche

I knew someone wasn't making it out of summer but shocked it came after 10 days in town.

The kid was absolutely stoked to be at Marquette by his indications in public so to turn around this quickly in such a short amount of time would indicate a serious issue (especially since its a second instance).

All things considered, our close season has truly been a mixed batch.

Bocephys

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 18, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
No.

But, I have to say, how many drive and kicks have we seen that led to another drive and another kick?

It was worse 2 years ago. Butler drives and kicks to DJO, who drives and kicks to Blue, who drives into the lane where all of the defenders are standing.

There are open catch and shoot-type shots in MU's offense, especially with Blue, Junior, and conceivably Lockett driving the ball.

Plus, Gardner will require consistent double teams, so if they can teach him to give it up, that will lead to open looks.

I'm not saying Jake is the second coming, but I think he can be effective role player (offensively), especially given the other players MU has.

The question for me comes on defense.

You are absolutely correct, I obviously don't believe he's a 20 point per game guy.  He could definitely be the type to play 5 minutes and score between 3-9 points though.  He'll probably be a lot like Novak in the NBA in the sense that almost all the shots he takes will be 3 pointers and we'll look to hide him on defense.

Canned Goods n Ammo

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Quote from: Bocephys on July 18, 2012, 04:00:01 PM
You are absolutely correct, I obviously don't believe he's a 20 point per game guy.  He could definitely be the type to play 5 minutes and score between 3-9 points though.  He'll probably be a lot like Novak in the NBA in the sense that almost all the shots he takes will be 3 pointers and we'll look to hide him on defense.

Maybe a bit like Novak as a frosh. at MU.

He won't be as efficient (Novak was a freak), but a bit of a 1 trick pony that is effective (because the other guys are hard to guard).

Just to clarify, I'm thinking role minutes. Let's not get carried away. 10min. per game. We know Buzz like some fast and furious subs, especially offense for defense.

Groin_pull

Perhaps MU should start sticking a little closer to the Midwest. It seems like a lot of these "faraway" recruits end up returning home—for good.

MuMark

and if we did that we would have missed out on Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, DJO and Junior ........

Quote from: Groin_pull on July 18, 2012, 04:12:48 PM
Perhaps MU should start sticking a little closer to the Midwest. It seems like a lot of these "faraway" recruits end up returning home—for good.

Groin_pull

Quote from: MuMark on July 18, 2012, 04:18:44 PM
and if we did that we would have missed out on Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, DJO and Junior ........


Good point.

Pakuni

Quote from: Groin_pull on July 18, 2012, 04:12:48 PM
Perhaps MU should start sticking a little closer to the Midwest. It seems like a lot of these "faraway" recruits end up returning home—for good.

As opposed to Midwestern kids like Reggie Smith, Jeronne Maymon, Trevor Mbakwe, Odartey Blankson, Dameon Mason, etc.

4everwarriors

Well, at least the cat has a girlfriend. Just sayin'.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2012, 04:23:14 PM
As opposed to Midwestern kids like Reggie Smith, Jeronne Maymon, Trevor Mbakwe, Odartey Blankson, Dameon Mason, etc.

+1

Add Scott C. to that list

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 18, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
Well, at least the cat has a girlfriend. Just sayin'.

If this is the real reason he's leaving then they should start working on a romance movie. Guy is essentially put an end to any major college basketball career he would have had...
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

BubbaWilliams

Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2012, 04:23:14 PM
As opposed to Midwestern kids like Reggie Smith, Jeronne Maymon, Trevor Mbakwe, Odartey Blankson, Dameon Mason, etc.

Ugh, just when i thought I would never hear Dameon Mason's name again...
"Marquette is so good defensively, they steal your mouth guards."

muwarrior69

Will Buzz ever have 13 scholarship players for a season? Seems like were always one or 2 down.

Groin_pull

Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2012, 04:23:14 PM
As opposed to Midwestern kids like Reggie Smith, Jeronne Maymon, Trevor Mbakwe, Odartey Blankson, Dameon Mason, etc.

Okay, okay. No reason to pile on.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: BRMU23 on July 18, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
Ugh, just when i thought I would never hear Dameon Mason's name again...

DMase's name will always come up when Louisville and MU games go down to the last shot for the win.


What he was recently doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2BXr2iCHN8
Coaches as well: http://crossoverhoops.net/Coaches.aspx
SS Marquette

MUBasketball

Quote from: jhags15 on July 18, 2012, 02:56:15 PM
I asked if it was about the girlfriend he responded.

@jhags15 has nothing to do with that keep your thoughts to yourself you have no idea so just chill out


I find it hysterical and so ironic that TJ would tell someone else to chill out about his girlfriend on Twitter.

Boone

Can't wish him well. He left is in the lurch. Tied up a scholarship for what...18 months or so and then he toughs it out for all of 2 weeks?! Sounds very immature.

hoops12

How come no one has brought up the "possible" new rules and regulations put on Buzz and the basketball program by the new administration? Maybe this kid was not let in because of some of there new ideas/rules. He was on campus, but didn't play in the summer league and now he is gone. It makes me wonder what is happening. That is the same thing that has me wondering about Mayo.

IF the administration is putting certain "new restrictions" on the program, and they are forcing certain players out (potentially a coach if that's the case) they don't understand what basketball means Marquette University.

I hope that is far from what is happening here.

GO MU!

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