TJ Taylor withdraws from MU

[PE8983]

"However, it does leave us shorthanded at the guard position for 2012-13."

My point exactly.  Complete contradiction of what he said when he signed - that he was a man of his word, will stick with you thru anything, will always have his teammates back.  TJ was no doubt needed this year by his team, especially with the Mayo situation up in the air.  Bailed after 2 weeks.  Better now than later, I agree.  But let's pretend we got his best effort.

[mu-rara]

What is all this "wish the kid well" junk?

There is something goofy with him, and he has f*cked with the program.    At best he made a bad decision chosing MU.   At worst, he wussed out, not even giving it a shot.  He needs to be accountable.

I don't wish the kid ill.   I guess I am ambivalent at best.  Go on home wuss.

[77ncaachamps]

I know he left us in a lurch and he SHOULD'VE looked at a map before committing, but you really don't want someone - who doesn't want to be at Marquette - on the team.

Happy trails to him.

Nunn...come on down. Major minutes and a future starting position is yours.

[chapman]

In hindsight, it was indeed a big red flag that he went and played Juco for a year.  I know we heard he had made a commitment to play at Paris, Buzz has a good relationship with the coach, etc.  But if a kid isn't excited to get to MU and go to work at the first possible chance he's not worth our time.  Taylor could have taken a scholarship last year and been eligible second semester.  Even if he didn't play, you want the kid working in the program with his coaches and teammates, not delaying his arrival.

[wadesworld]

Some people... The kid clearly has something going on in his life that we know nothing about. Maybe I'm delusional, but my guess is he didn't plan on "f*cking with the program" for over a year by holding down a scholarship and then leaving after 2 weeks of summer classes. Again, maybe I'm delusional, but I'm guessing the kid knows the roster makeup at the school he was attending and saw the opportunity for minutes that are clearly available. I'd be careful what you call a 19/20 year old kid who clearly has something more going on in his life.

Let's also not forget that we just got a star transfer who wanted to be closer to home because his mom is sick. How do we know that's not the case with TJT? Is Lockett a "wuss" for leaving an already horrible team in a worse situation without him? No, he has personal issues he needs to take care of.

But yeah, TJT has it out for MU (and OU) and just wanted to "f*ck" with us. Forget that he very well could be "f*cking" over his future by doing these things. But you're right, he probably doesn't realize that. Think about it. He's putting his future in serious jeapordy. You DON'T think there's something more than "f*cking with the program" going on in his life? Call me crazy...

He left OU after having serious issues with concussions. Anybody ever hear of Post-Concussion Syndrome? Occurs after sports injuries. Can have some serious long term symptoms. Concussions have been discussed as a possible cause of depression and suicide.

Who knows what is happening? My guess is you don't. None of us do. Buzz, the team, TJT, and TJT's family and friends. There is clearly something going on with TJT, and it is not to screw over MU or because Buzz hurt his feelings by yelling at him.

To not wish the kid well is pretty immature in my opinion. I guarantee Buzz is wishing him well. But whatever floats your boat guys.

[mu-rara]

I know he left us in a lurch and he SHOULD'VE looked at a map before committing, but you really don't want someone - who doesn't want to be at Marquette - on the team.

Happy trails to him.

Nunn...come on down. Major minutes and a future starting position is yours.

I don't want him @ MU unless he is committed.  

I don't wish him ill, but if I am not wishing him well either.  If I were his parents, I would have made him stick it out for more than 2 weeks.  

I was homesick too, for longer than 2 weeks.  I stuck it out and loved my time at Marquette.

[Da 'Lanche]

Some people... The kid clearly has something going on in his life that we know nothing about. Maybe I'm delusional, but my guess is he didn't plan on "f*cking with the program" for over a year by holding down a scholarship and then leaving after 2 weeks of summer classes. Again, maybe I'm delusional, but I'm guessing the kid knows the roster makeup at the school he was attending and saw the opportunity for minutes that are clearly available. I'd be careful what you call a 19/20 year old kid who clearly has something more going on in his life.

Let's also not forget that we just got a star transfer who wanted to be closer to home because his mom is sick. How do we know that's not the case with TJT? Is Lockett a "wuss" for leaving an already horrible team in a worse situation without him? No, he has personal issues he needs to take care of.

But yeah, TJT has it out for MU (and OU) and just wanted to "f*ck" with us. Forget that he very well could be "f*cking" over his future by doing these things. But you're right, he probably doesn't realize that. Think about it. He's putting his future in serious jeapordy. You DON'T think there's something more than "f*cking with the program" going on in his life? Call me crazy...

He left OU after having serious issues with concussions. Anybody ever hear of Post-Concussion Syndrome? Occurs after sports injuries. Can have some serious long term symptoms. Concussions have been discussed as a possible cause of depression and suicide.

Who knows what is happening? My guess is you don't. None of us do. Buzz, the team, TJT, and TJT's family and friends. There is clearly something going on with TJT, and it is not to screw over MU or because Buzz hurt his feelings by yelling at him.

To not wish the kid well is pretty immature in my opinion. I guarantee Buzz is wishing him well. But whatever floats your boat guys.

Amen!!!  Well said.

[Pakuni]

In hindsight, it was indeed a big red flag that he went and played Juco for a year. 

Not really. Had he transferred directly to MU, he'd have had to sit out two years of competitive ball (remember, he didn't play at all during his year at Oklahoma). Can't blame the kid, or think it was a red flag, given those circumstances.

At the end of the day, none of us have the first idea why the kid chose to leave. I suppose it's pretty easy to take shots at the kid, call him names, question his manhood, etc. without knowing the whole story, but for all we know he had some very legitimate reasons for going home.

Pretty sure nobody here called Jamil Wilson or Trent Lockett wusses for deciding they didn't want to be hundreds of miles from home.

[PE8983]

Some of you are claiming that we don't know if he has some sort of major family issue back home.  True, we dont'.  But if that was the case, why was his girlfriend wanting him to stick it out at MU and not return home?

[mu-rara]

Some people... The kid clearly has something going on in his life that we know nothing about. Maybe I'm delusional, but my guess is he didn't plan on "f*cking with the program" for over a year by holding down a scholarship and then leaving after 2 weeks of summer classes. Who knows what is happening? My guess is you don't. None of us do. Buzz, the team, TJT, and TJT's family and friends. There is clearly something going on with TJT, and it is not to screw over MU or because Buzz hurt his feelings by yelling at him.
To not wish the kid well is pretty immature in my opinion. I guarantee Buzz is wishing him well. But whatever floats your boat guys.

He made a decision that had an adverse effect on Marquette's program.  He is 20 years old, and made a bad decision.  When you make a commitment to a team or an organization, call me old fashioned, you don't bail after two weeks.  You stay around to see how it works out.  If any of your doom and gloom suppositions on what is going on come true.  I will feel bad for TJ.

It looks like he took the easy way out.  It happens to some youngsters.  I don't wish him ill.  I am just not going to cheer him.

Publicly, Buzz has to wish him well, PR 101.  Privately, he is not happy (I guarantee it)

[Pakuni]

Some of you are claiming that we don't know if he has some sort of major family issue back home.  True, we dont'.  But if that was the case, why was his girlfriend wanting him to stick it out at MU and not return home?

Cause she doesn't love him anymore?
Christ .... who cares? Stop playing amateur Columbo.

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Some people... The kid clearly has something going on in his life that we know nothing about. Maybe I'm delusional, but my guess is he didn't plan on "f*cking with the program" for over a year by holding down a scholarship and then leaving after 2 weeks of summer classes. Again, maybe I'm delusional, but I'm guessing the kid knows the roster makeup at the school he was attending and saw the opportunity for minutes that are clearly available. I'd be careful what you call a 19/20 year old kid who clearly has something more going on in his life.

Let's also not forget that we just got a star transfer who wanted to be closer to home because his mom is sick. How do we know that's not the case with TJT? Is Lockett a "wuss" for leaving an already horrible team in a worse situation without him? No, he has personal issues he needs to take care of.

But yeah, TJT has it out for MU (and OU) and just wanted to "f*ck" with us. Forget that he very well could be "f*cking" over his future by doing these things. But you're right, he probably doesn't realize that. Think about it. He's putting his future in serious jeapordy. You DON'T think there's something more than "f*cking with the program" going on in his life? Call me crazy...

He left OU after having serious issues with concussions. Anybody ever hear of Post-Concussion Syndrome? Occurs after sports injuries. Can have some serious long term symptoms. Concussions have been discussed as a possible cause of depression and suicide.

Who knows what is happening? My guess is you don't. None of us do. Buzz, the team, TJT, and TJT's family and friends. There is clearly something going on with TJT, and it is not to screw over MU or because Buzz hurt his feelings by yelling at him.

To not wish the kid well is pretty immature in my opinion. I guarantee Buzz is wishing him well. But whatever floats your boat guys.

hear hear

[Pakuni]

He made a decision that had an adverse effect on Marquette's program.  He is 20 years old, and made a bad decision.  

How do you know it's a bad decision? Might be the best decision the kid's ever made.
Impressive that without one shred of information about how and why TJT made his decision, you can ascertain he's "taking the easy way out."

Publicly, Buzz has to wish him well, PR 101.  Privately, he is not happy (I guarantee it)

Did Buzz tell you that in an email?

[GGGG]

Well this thread took an embarrassing turn. "Wuss???"  Really???  Can we grow up a little and realize we are talking about a 20 year old kid?

[PE8983]

"Cause she doesn't love him anymore?
Christ .... who cares? Stop playing amateur Columbo."

If you don't care, why are you still reading this 8 page thread.

[GGGG]

And who is the real wuss here?  The player or anonymous message board guy calling a player names on a message board?

[mu-rara]

Comments from TJ when he signed with MU:

"When it comes to my family, friends and teammates, I am a man of my word and I will stick with you through anything. I will always be there and I will always have your back." Those are some pretty strong words, and are right in line for a player who is to join a team whose battle cry this year has been "Grind Together, Shine Together"."

Yeah right...

Ahem, he is not even living up to his own expectations.

[🏀]

"Cause she doesn't love him anymore?
Christ .... who cares? Stop playing amateur Columbo."

If you don't care, why are you still reading this 8 page thread.

I'm reading it because I enjoy watching people make themselves look like asshats.

[mu-rara]

And who is the real wuss here?  The player or anonymous message board guy calling a player names on a message board?

OK Sultan.  You are a person of integrity, and I respect your opinion (I think).

I went overboard calling him a wuss.  I still believe he did not give MU a chance, and he made a personal decision that impacted more than just himself.

[NickelDimer]

Apparently I'm in the minority in not knowing the full truth behind why he left.  It's apparantly common knowledge that he left MU high and dry and MU had no say in this decision.  Can someone please catch me up to speed??

Seriously, how do we know the story behind why he left and what the real driving force behind this decision was?  So not only are people concluding that this was 100% his decision, but they're also bashing him for it.  Pretty shortsighted.

[bilsu]

Even without Mayo, we have enough guards. This only hurts if one of our remaining guards get injured.

[brewcity77]

I'm disappointed to see him go, and doubt it will be in either Marquette's or TJ's best interest, but life goes on. Buzz is always recruiting and has managed with far thinner rosters than we'll have without TJ, and even without Mayo if he is also not here. Wish the kid the best and hope he gets his issues sorted.

[Benny B]

Apparently I'm in the minority in not knowing the full truth behind why he left.  It's apprantly common knowldge that he left MU high and dry and MU had no say in this decision.  Can someone please catch me up to speed??

I don't know if "common knowledge" is the right term... I'd call it "common speculation" at best.  Right now, what we have amounts to an announcement by Marquette, some twitter twackerin', a rumor that UNT (Benford) may be getting in on T.J., and a boatload of conjecture.  Nobody but T.J. Taylor knows the truth for sure.

[damuts222]

Privately, he is not happy (I guarantee it)

  Why would anyone be happy about a players departure after 2 weeks? I'm not happy he left, especially after two weeks. Yet I'm sure Buzz doesn't mind the additional scholarship it opened up to use for another player from next years class.

[4everwarriors]

Would the fallout here be any different if it came out that Buzzed "axed" Taylor to leave now? Just sayin.