TJ Taylor withdraws from MU

[Aughnanure]

Ouch via NBC Sports

"Williams does have a track record here. He pulled DJ Newbill's scholarship in July two summers ago and did the same thing three months ago to Aaron Durley to clear scholarship space for Trent Lockett. Losing Taylor means that Williams will be able to sign Kendrick Nunn this fall without having to worry about scholarship totals next summer.

It will be interesting to see the reaction from the national media for this move. Williams is VERY will-liked by the folks covering college hoops (I include myself in that group), but this is starting to become a trend."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/18/juco-transfer-tj-taylor-leaves-marquette-weeks-after-enrolling/

[🏀]

Ouch via NBC Sports

"Williams does have a track record here. He pulled DJ Newbill's scholarship in July two summers ago and did the same thing three months ago to Aaron Durley to clear scholarship space for Trent Lockett. Losing Taylor means that Williams will be able to sign Kendrick Nunn this fall without having to worry about scholarship totals next summer.

It will be interesting to see the reaction from the national media for this move. Williams is VERY will-liked by the folks covering college hoops (I include myself in that group), but this is starting to become a trend."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/18/juco-transfer-tj-taylor-leaves-marquette-weeks-after-enrolling/

SLANDER!

[bilsu]

With Jones transferring out we did not need Durley's scholarship to bring in Lockett. Assuming Mayo does not come back we do not need Taylor's scholarship to sign Nunn. Given that you can oversign, you would not need any currently available scholarship to sign Nunn.

[GGGG]

Even if Mayo returns, with no TJT transfer we have room to sign Nunn.  Otule won't be official until after the season is over next year.

[LAZER]

10 of 26 is less than the 40% national turnover rate over 2 year time frames that writers having bieen noting recently.  Sound like MU is rather average.

Do you have a link for that 40% turnover rate?

[Nukem2]

Do you have a link for that 40% turnover rate?

There have been a number of articles on that.  Google the subject.....Use NCAA 40% transfer rate and Google has a lot of references to that...including NCAA chief Mark Emmert....

[The Process]

Ouch via NBC Sports

"Williams does have a track record here. He pulled DJ Newbill's scholarship in July two summers ago and did the same thing three months ago to Aaron Durley to clear scholarship space for Trent Lockett. Losing Taylor means that Williams will be able to sign Kendrick Nunn this fall without having to worry about scholarship totals next summer.

It will be interesting to see the reaction from the national media for this move. Williams is VERY will-liked by the folks covering college hoops (I include myself in that group), but this is starting to become a trend."

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/18/juco-transfer-tj-taylor-leaves-marquette-weeks-after-enrolling/

Anyone who uses a whiney Badger blog post about Durley versus Uthoff as evidence of "wrongdoing" is not worth taking seriously on this topic.

[The Equalizer]

10 of 26 is less than the 40% national turnover rate over 2 year time frames that writers having bieen noting recently.  Sound like MU is rather average.

I think you'e got our new motto.  "Marquette Basketball. We strive to be rather average." 

[Aughnanure]

I think you'e got our new motto.  "Marquette Basketball. We strive to be rather average."  

I was unaware being #1 in players not transferring was something we wanted to strive for.

[LAZER]

I think you'e got our new motto.  "Marquette Basketball. We strive to be rather average." 

So MU is right around 40% 2 year mark, but well above the ~10.7% 1 year mark, I'm running this one through my head...

[brewcity77]

I was unaware being #1 in players not transferring was something we wanted to strive for.

In this day and age, I am starting to think transfers are a good thing. If I were a EW or Mellow, I'd rather go somewhere I could succeed and play than just keep the bench warm for those moments when Jae or Jamil needed a rest. And if I'm Marquette, I'd rather have open scholarships to improve the opportunity to upgrade the roster. Transfers generally means you have guys doing well early on, which encourages the transfer, and you are bringing in players hungry for minutes, which likely means while they are here there is good competition in practice as well as on the court.

Bottom line, it's not the 1980s anymore. Guys are going to move on and I'd rather have a coach and program that recognizes that truth and is proactive than a school that feels blindsided by every departure.

[wadesworld]

I do think being recruited over may be part of it. We already have two players committed for 2013 that I would expect to get playing time ahead of him. Also, McKay, if you project him as a small forward. It certainly looks like MU is still recruiting other guards for 2013 that could also get playing time ahead of Taylor. Taylor seeing that would either have to leave now, so he does not have to sit out and lose a year or accept the likely hood he would be a bench warmer. That of course is making the assumption that he is not a great player.

Our everyday (at least healthy) centers for the last 3 years have been (generously, in shoes, listed) 6'6". The day Marquette has a 6'10" guy playing small forward is the day hell freezes over.

[hoops12]

Pretty pathetic article regarding Taylor's transfer. No matter the case, certain people are going to draw conclusions based on the past couple of years. That's unfortunate, but I believe in Buzz and the program!

I sure hope "Guns n Ammo" jumps on the national NBC media site, and makes it known how he feels about this national article that is coming up with "conspiracy theories" regarding Buzz. I know he jumped all over me yesterday just for only asking a question regarding the new administration on what was happening regarding TJ Taylor. I look forward to seeing what he will write to Rob Dauster. No comments yet!

GO MU!

[MattyWarrior]

The Denton,TX paper says he never found a comfort zone in Milwaukee and was real close with Benford. Needs a waiver to
play for the Mean Green this year, plus they are full up on schollies. I think it was a bad move for his future. I don't
think he was being recruited over.

[martyconlonontherun]

Pestering on twitter? Twitter is made for communication, it is a social network...I asked him a question. I saw that stuff on twitter myself, I think it could have contributed to it. Paint Touches addressed the clearinghouse. As I said before I am saying what I saw.

It's debatable. It's like having your phone number in the phone book. You want to stay connected to all your friends and want them to be able to get a hold of you. You don't necessarily want a completely random stranger, who you never talked to, asking about your girlfriend. There's etiquette to every social setting and you are well into the gray area.

[GGGG]

The Denton,TX paper says he never found a comfort zone in Milwaukee

In two weeks???

[Boone]

Yeah, I could see if he gave it a few months and still didn't find a comfort zone, but making a final decision after just 2 weeks is really juvenile -- even for a college kid.

[mr.MUskie]

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2012/07/t-j-taylor-update.html/

T.J. Taylor update
By Brett Vito
bvito@dentonrc.com
4:55 pm on July 19, 2012 | Permalink
The saga of former Denison standout T.J. Taylor continued to become even more bizarre on Thursday when news came down that he had left Marquette. It's the second school he has been at briefly without playing for either.

He also spent some time at Oklahoma.

This is where it could get interesting for UNT.

New UNT head coach Tony Benford recruited Taylor when he was an assistant coach at Marquette. A source close to the situation said that Benford has a good relationship with both Taylor and his family.

Nothing has transpired yet, but there is a chance that Taylor could end up at UNT.

Remember, I said a chance.

At this point, Taylor has a few options.

One would be returning to junior college. After Taylor left Oklahoma, he landed at Paris JC and played for Chuck Taylor, who just so happens to be a former UNT assistant coach under Johnny Jones. Taylor spent one year at Paris and does have the option of playing a second year at the school.

Taylor could enroll at UNT, but if he does, he would need a waiver to play immediately. That's something he wouldn't need if he headed to Paris.

UNT is also full in terms of scholarships for next season. Taylor could pay his own way for a year or UNT could try to get another player to pay his way to make room.

What makes the possibility of Taylor ending up at UNT so intriguing is that he seems to be a perfect fit for several reasons.

– First off, the one hole UNT seems to have in what is generally considered to be potentially the best team in school history is a lack of outside shooting. Brandan Walton shot a very respectable 36.7 percent from 3-point range last season, but he was the only guard on UNT's roster returning who was a consistent shooter from 3-point range. Jacob Holmen shot 33.3 percent, but at 6-8 is more of a mid-range player. UNT didn't have a player ranked in the top 15 in the Sun Belt in 3-point field goal percentage last season. Tony Mitchell, UNT's star 6-8 forward shot 43.9 percent, but didn't have enough attempts to qualify for the Sun Belt leaders. Taylor shot 33 percent from 3-point range at Paris and hit 48 3s in 27 games.

– UNT will have to rebuild after this season. UNT has five seniors, plus Mitchell, who is all but certain to declare for the NBA Draft. There are still some good players who will be back after this season, including Jordan Williams and Chris Jones, but there will be plenty of holes to fill. With Walton leaving after the upcoming season, finding a shooting guard has to be a priority. UNT has three players who have committed to sign in the 2013 class — Tony Nunn, Anthony Norris and Arthur Casimiro. All three are projected to play on UNT's front line. Taylor would be a perfect fit with what UNT has returning and the signees in place, especially considering Chris Jones and P.J. Hardwick will be back to handle the point guard spot.

– By all accounts, one of the problems Taylor has run into is finding a comfort zone away from home. UNT seems like a good fit from the distance perspective. Denison is pretty much right up the road, but also far enough away that it would give him some distance from his family.

We will have to see what transpires over the next week or so, but there does seem to be at least a possibility that UNT might end up being Taylor's third Division I school, and you know what they say about the third time. Sometimes, it's a charm.

[Dr. Blackheart]

One year of academics and working on his fourth college. Pretty clear that close to home is a good choice for TJT.  Be sure Tony will ride his arse just as hard a Buzz did from what I read from the UNT players.  Hope TJ understands that.

[avid1010]

Pretty pathetic article regarding Taylor's transfer. No matter the case, certain people are going to draw conclusions based on the past couple of years. That's unfortunate, but I believe in Buzz and the program!

I sure hope "Guns n Ammo" jumps on the national NBC media site, and makes it known how he feels about this national article that is coming up with "conspiracy theories" regarding Buzz. I know he jumped all over me yesterday just for only asking a question regarding the new administration on what was happening regarding TJ Taylor. I look forward to seeing what he will write to Rob Dauster. No comments yet!

GO MU!

i thought bilsu summed it up pretty well...kind of messes up the conspiracy theories...

[nathanziarek]

SLANDER!

LIBEL!

(Slander typically needs to be spoken, libel written)

[JD]

So much for the Sweet 16 rings doing there Job...

[Dawson Rental]

So much for the Sweet 16 rings doing there Job...

The sweet sixteen rings were doing a fantastic job until some posters here dared to put them into question!

[PE8983]

Comments from TJ when he signed with MU:

"When it comes to my family, friends and teammates, I am a man of my word and I will stick with you through anything. I will always be there and I will always have your back." Those are some pretty strong words, and are right in line for a player who is to join a team whose battle cry this year has been "Grind Together, Shine Together"."

Yeah right...

[damuts222]

Yeah right...

  No need to bash the kid. Regardless of why he left if he wasn't 110% in with Buzz, the program, and his teammates then we wish him well and pick up a player that wants to be here.
 
  Transfers happen and Buzz and co. have been continuously recruiting which allows us some more room to sign Nunn and others. However, it does leave us shorthanded at the guard position for 2012-13.