New BB Player housing arrangements

[GGGG]

On some level it can't just be about making recruiting easier. It has to be about improving the student athlete experience while on campus. Maybe the AD feels that having frosh and sophomores hanging out with nothing but upper classmen players hurts their academic performance or something. There are valid reasons why UCLA and USC have moved away from these type of facilities. At the very least we owe them the benefit of the doubt.

[🏀]

There's always been a rumor that MU would buy Catholic Knights and ditch Carpenter one day. Maybe this is a precursor to that.

[77ncaachamps]

To support what someone posted, my sis is at UCLA and during her frosh and soph years, basketball, water polo and track student athletes were either on her floor or in her dorm.

[BME to MD]

Tower is a terrible idea.  Isn't Carpenter still primarily a sophomore dorm (almost certainly their lowest choice) with the only freshman floors being engineering students?   If this is true then freshman basketball players will live with sophomores who are angry they didn't get into Schroeder or Straz. 

If they are going anywhere it should be into the old Abbottsford.

[TedBaxter]

http://www.housing.wisc.edu/lakeshore

This is where some of the Wisconsin athletes will be housed from what I've been told.

[wadesworld]

http://www.housing.wisc.edu/lakeshore

This is where some of the Wisconsin athletes will be housed from what I've been told.

COOL!

[TedBaxter]

I'm not an alum of Marquette and just from an outsiders view, I think the next thing the school should try to do is look into some upgraded dorms.  The University of Wisconsin has made a real effort to improve their on-campus living facilities and it will sell future students and student athletes.  This Marquette decision doesn't do the basketball program any favors whatsoever and it will affect some recruits decisions in the future.

[Gato78]

If Buzz thinks they need to stay at Humphrey because it is better for recruiting, then they should be at Humphrey. He knows what we recruit against. There may have been issues but there is certainly a feeling of brotherhood at Humphrey. I think it should be a basketball decision.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I'm not an alum of Marquette and just from an outsiders view, I think the next thing the school should try to do is look into some upgraded dorms.  The University of Wisconsin has made a real effort to improve their on-campus living facilities and it will sell future students and student athletes.  This Marquette decision doesn't do the basketball program any favors whatsoever and it will affect some recruits decisions in the future.

Yeah the more I think about it the dumber the whole idea sounds.  You don't willfully take any arrows like this out of Buzz' recruiting quiver.  You just don't.

[Blackhat]

Welcome to Notre Dame policies.

Think outside the box Larry.  

Banning sex will probably be next.

[Hamostradamus]

http://www.housing.wisc.edu/lakeshore

This is where some of the Wisconsin athletes will be housed from what I've been told.

This is because UW understands the importance of athletics. Barry Alvarez is a very, very good AD.  EVERY university is touting modern living in the best dorms, free wifi, cable, etc. There is a reason for all of that, and the camaraderie that comes with living with other frosh in an old dorm ain't it.

[MUBurrow]

Same here.  Not a major deal, but why make it even 0.1% more of a recruiting challenge?  I guess I just don't see the upside of this move, so why do it at all?

This.

Whatever "gains" you achieve with the change just aren't worth losing any cred with recruits, even if its just as a tiebreaker. Remember when (royal) you were 18 and chose a college? I'm guessing some of your considerations, or at least the way you weighed them would look foolish today.  I'm sure no one "cites" Humphrey as to why they chose MU, but its possible that having nice digs at least put that consideration out of their minds and focused on other things. If you have to think about sleeping above Davante every night in a room that's 85 degrees, all things being equal, you would choose to not do that.

[wadesworld]

You think Buzz gives a sh!t? How often does he talk about JUCOs coming up the same way he did, ordering fast food, riding the bus to road trips, etc.? You think he'll tell a recruit who says "But Buzz, Bo is offering me a modern living arrangement with free Wi-Fi and you're making me live with my underclass teammates with other underclassmen! I can't do that!" that he'll make sure to get that change? I think he'll say, "Have fun getting your ass whooped by me the next 4 years while leading your team in scoring at 12.2 ppg!"

[TedBaxter]

You think Buzz gives a sh!t? How often does he talk about JUCOs coming up the same way he did, ordering fast food, riding the bus to road trips, etc.? You think he'll tell a recruit who says "But Buzz, Bo is offering me a modern living arrangement with free Wi-Fi and you're making me live with my underclass teammates with other underclassmen! I can't do that!" that he'll make sure to get that change? I think he'll say, "Have fun getting your ass whooped by me the next 4 years while leading your team in scoring at 12.2 ppg!"

Simply, yes I think Buzz does care about this change and doesn't care for it at all.

[Hamostradamus]

Simply, yes I think Buzz does care about this change and doesn't care for it at all.

+  1

[lab_warrior]

"My major reason for committing to play basketball for Marquette is the sweet digs at Humphrey."  

--NO RECRUIT, EVER, IN THE HISTORY OF MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY

[jsglow]

I have reason to believe that the new housing situation was discussed even before LW was hired.  My sense is that there are multiple reasons behind the policy change one of which is getting to know your non hoops classmates just a bit more.

[GGGG]

I think the next thing MU needs to do is create some sham majors to make it easier for Buzz to recruit.  How about a major in "basketball coaching?"  Hey, if recruiting basketball players is MU's main focus right?

Oh and I love the Notre Dame hate - never actually mentioning that NDs athletic program is better than Marquette's by a significant margin.  HOW THE HELL DID THEY LAND ZACH AUGUSTE OVER US WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR ATHLETES LIVE WITH THE UNWASHED MASSES IN REGULAR DORMS????

Seriously, what a bunch of chicken littles....  There are legitimate reasons why athletic residence halls have been dropped at many institutions.  

[BME to MD]

I have reason to believe that the new housing situation was discussed even before LW was hired.  My sense is that there are multiple reasons behind the policy change one of which is getting to know your non hoops classmates just a bit more.

This is an admirable idea but it only reinforces why Carpenter is such a terrible choice given that it is almost exclusively sophomores.  Put them in the Abbottsford where they will be with other freshman.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Oliver Lee and McCormick were not a good combo.

[jsglow]

This is an admirable idea but it only reinforces why Carpenter is such a terrible choice given that it is almost exclusively sophomores.  Put them in the Abbottsford where they will be with other freshman.

Not if it costs jsglow jr. his sweeet room!  (These kids have it soo good nowadays!)

One other quick bit of history.  In the days before MU even owned Abbottsford (remember married students housing?), BBall players frequently lived in Carpenter. The late, great jsglow Sr. worked 40 years in what is now called the 707 building. Often he would see the boys shooting hoops on a rim mounted on the north side of that historic dorm building.  If it was good enough for George Thompson....

[Gato78]

Not if it costs jsglow jr. his sweeet room!  (These kids have it soo good nowadays!)

One other quick bit of history.  In the days before MU even owned Abbottsford (remember married students housing?), BBall players frequently lived in Carpenter. The late, great jsglow Sr. worked 40 years in what is now called the 707 building. Often he would see the boys shooting hoops on a rim mounted on the north side of that historic dorm building.  If it was good enough for George Thompson....

So much has changed from the Al McGuire days, it really cannot be a point of comparison--though Jim Chones lived at Catholic Knights, somehow. When Al and Hank recruited to McCormick Hall, there was no issue because every University had a McCormick Hall for frosh. That is no longer the case. Will any recruit ever say he chose MU because of Humphrey Hall? No. Will a tour of housing cause a recruit to think the facilities are better in, say Madison, than at MU? I would not be surprised. Show the recruits a state of the art basketball facility to try to woo them but then second tier housing? One can only hope the player area at Tower will be kick ass. If it isn't.......why bother with the state of the art basketball facility.

[madtownwarrior]

Better get Buzz's bat-phone to SMU up and running again, cue up an IWB tweet and article, cue up the MUSCOOP email campaign - we'will get this travesty to MU Basketball fixed....

Simply, yes I think Buzz does care about this change and doesn't care for it at all.

[Dawson Rental]

You think Buzz gives a sh!t? How often does he talk about JUCOs coming up the same way he did, ordering fast food, riding the bus to road trips, etc.? You think he'll tell a recruit who says "But Buzz, Bo is offering me a modern living arrangement with free Wi-Fi and you're making me live with my underclass teammates with other underclassmen! I can't do that!" that he'll make sure to get that change? I think he'll say, "Have fun getting your ass whooped by me at SMU the next 4 years while leading your team in scoring at 12.2 ppg!"

Fixed!

[Dawson Rental]

I'm not an alum of Marquette and just from an outsiders view, I think the next thing the school should try to do is look into some upgraded dorms.  The University of Wisconsin has made a real effort to improve their on-campus living facilities and it will sell future students and student athletes.  This Marquette decision doesn't do the basketball program any favors whatsoever and it will affect some recruits decisions in the future.

Not being an alum, you may not know that there is heavy political pressure if not a law to insure that Marquette does not acquire any more property in Milwaukee for its campus, thereby taking that property off the property tax rolls.  So any property purchased for new dorms would have to be held by a non-tax exempt entity controlled by MU.