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Benny B

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 03, 2012, 08:57:05 AM

Agreed.  We can't have the mentality that just because highly rated freshmen don't light it up immediately, that we should just discard them and move on to the next hot thing.


But..... but.... but..... that's what Kentucky and Indiana have.  Isn't that how it's supposed to be?  Is Buzz not offering enough money to the recruits & their families?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: BCHoopster on May 03, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
I hope that is the case as well.  The biggest improvement comes between his freshman and soph season.  If he does not get more PT time next year, he might be lost in the rotation.  Time
will tell.  Playground ball is much different than in season ball.
Juan will be a player and it will start next year.  He does the things that will get him playing time.  Getting contested rebounds, all out hussle, good passes.  He had some really bad luck at the start of last year.  The ticket thing and then his injury.  Otherwise he would have gotten into the flow in the non-con and I think he would have been pretty much where Mayo ended up.
I see him having a Soph season like Jimmy B.  He is the kind of player that will be a crowd favorite by the time he graduates.  Completely different player and completely different situation from Jamil.

BCHoopster

Quote from: NotAnAlum on May 03, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
Juan will be a player and it will start next year.  He does the things that will get him playing time.  Getting contested rebounds, all out hussle, good passes.  He had some really bad luck at the start of last year.  The ticket thing and then his injury.  Otherwise he would have gotten into the flow in the non-con and I think he would have been pretty much where Mayo ended up.
I see him having a Soph season like Jimmy B.  He is the kind of player that will be a crowd favorite by the time he graduates.  Completely different player and completely different situation from Jamil.

Playing at the three vs. the four will be the big difference. He played out of position last year.  If Lockett does come to MU, that will change his playing time as well.  It would be best for Juan if Lockett does not go to MU.

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: real chili 83 on May 03, 2012, 08:54:03 AM
I just went back and re-read Juan's basketball bio.  Ranked 61st as a HS Sr.  Team finished 30 -2.  Great HS career.

Kid shows up as a frosh, and gets some minutes coming off the bench....not an immediate impact player. 

My point is that how big of a transition it is for most of these highly rated HS players to D1 competition. 

This thread, hopefully, is nothing more than than baseless, absent of fact, speculative thread that we all know so well.

Wasn't it said somewhere that the kid played soccer most of his life and didn't start playing basketball until high school?  Or am I just completely making this up?

Bocephys

Quote from: WarriorInDC on May 03, 2012, 09:32:16 AM
Wasn't it said somewhere that the kid played soccer most of his life and didn't start playing basketball until high school?  Or am I just completely making this up?

I believe you're right.  He started playing basketball really late, though I can't seem to find where he says that.

augoman

Juan has such a huge upside it would be foolish to discount him..., and very painful to see him leave.  I hope he stays and I expect he'll amaze.

He had hoped to be a one and done out of high school, much like other players at MU.  Reality can be a bitch.

Bocephys

Quote from: Bocephys on May 03, 2012, 09:39:50 AM
I believe you're right.  He started playing basketball really late, though I can't seem to find where he says that.

It's sort of covered in this interview, about halfway down. http://boxofmess.com/2010/11/27/lyrics-basketball-marquette-signed-11-juan-anderson/

QuoteJuan: Yeah I Do. I actually wanted to play football but my parents wouldn't let me. I'm not sure. Haha here's a good one, I played soccer for 12 years. But I stopped to play basketball. Definitely very family oriented.

bilsu

I watched Juan regulary in the Pro Am and love his game. I always felt he would become a very good player, once he overcame his biggest weakness. That weakness is the lack of physical strength. Get him close to Crowder's weight of 235 vs 210 and he will be the next forward in the line of Matthews, Hayward, Butler and Crowder.

MUMac

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 03, 2012, 06:25:26 AM
Have you watched any of his mixtapes, or did you see him at all during the Pro-Am? I think the reason he didn't do well offensively is that his offensive game needed a lot of refining. He's the definition of a point forward. He sees the floor ridiculously well, has absolutely sick moves off the dribble, and can make no-look passes that you would swear weren't there.

But everything he excelled at offensively in HS and AAU is going to require even more precise timing at this level and a more chiseled frame to allow him to drive and dish in the lane without being treated like a robin's egg on the ping-pong table. As I recall last summer, most people that had watched Juan play didn't expect much from him as a freshman, but thought he had an incredibly high ceiling. For me, at least, nothing has changed in that regard. In fact, I like him even more now having seen his length at the 3, his ability to defend, and his tenacity on the court.

If you haven't watched any of his highlight reels (and I know some dismiss those out of hand) it might be worth it. Don't focus on the dunks or the shooting, look at how he plays defense, his shot-blocking, and the passes he makes. I think he has an incredibly high basketball IQ, and once he gets his body to catch up to his basketball brain, the sky is the limit.

I would add that many also believed he would need a year under Todd Smith to develop a BE body.  The injuries and suspensions also hurt his development a great deal last year.  He has the talent, athleticism and ability.  I really am excided to watch him develop.  Seeing some of the high school highlights, he has a good handle, good shot and great passing ability.

warriorchick

Quote from: bilsu on May 03, 2012, 09:46:31 AM
I watched Juan regulary in the Pro Am and love his game. I always felt he would become a very good player, once he overcame his biggest weakness. That weakness is the lack of physical strength. Get him close to Crowder's weight of 235 vs 210 and he will be the next forward in the line of Matthews, Hayward, Butler and Crowder.

He has a ways to go before he is Crowder's size.  It is not as apparent on TV, but that kid has chicken legs.  I always worry that a good, hard block is going to snap him in half.  However, he is still very young, and you can tell he still hasn't gotten his "man" body yet.
Have some patience, FFS.

MU82

If I recall, nobody saw a single tweet out of Jim Chones right before he left school. We're doomed.
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Canned Goods n Ammo

I would guess that Juan would develop more like Jamil than Jae.

Long, versatile and hopefully can shoot a little bit.

He didn't look very good last year... but he's active. Verrrrry active.

Should be a nice player.

warthog-driver

Quote from: MU82 on May 03, 2012, 10:04:53 AM
If I recall, nobody saw a single tweet out of Jim Chones right before he left school. We're doomed.

Al took a sh1t that looked like New Jersey and he knew then that Chones was leaving for the ABA

Silkk the Shaka

Just watching his high school highlights, Juan has potential to be the next Francisco Garcia.  Just watching him on the court last year, he also has potential to be the next Erik Williams.  Time will tell, and he will obviously probably land somewhere between the two on the spectrum.  Hope it's closer the former rather than the latter, as he certainly has ability.

strotty

How will we follow him on Twitta tracker?

Dawson Rental

Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on May 03, 2012, 06:26:48 AM
After eating nachos, it looked like Hiroshima....

What does the elephant eat?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Jamailman on May 03, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
Just watching his high school highlights, Juan has potential to be the next Francisco Garcia.  Just watching him on the court last year, he also has potential to be the next Erik Williams.  Time will tell, and he will obviously probably land somewhere between the two on the spectrum.  Hope it's closer the former rather than the latter, as he certainly has ability.

According to statsheet, Juan's freshman year was a lot more like one of the two comparable players you mentioned:

http://goo.gl/cWE4S

Juan is nowhere close to a similar player development curve as Francisco Garcia.


Marqus Howard

Juan has been tweeting for the past several days, fwiw.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 03, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
According to statsheet, Juan's freshman year was a lot more like one of the two comparable players you mentioned:

http://goo.gl/cWE4S

Juan is nowhere close to a similar player development curve as Francisco Garcia.



Duh.  Which is why I said his HS highlight videos showed one thing and his on-court production last year showed another.  Thanks for repeating exactly what I said.

tower912

Yeah, but you didn't say it in a passive agressive way that actually backhandedly insults Buzz and MU. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Dawson Rental

Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on May 03, 2012, 11:26:43 AM
Juan has been tweeting for the past several days, fwiw.

Good point.  It could be that he felt that he needed to delete his account, to avoid the temptation to continue tweeting during finals time.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Jamailman on May 03, 2012, 12:44:54 PM
Duh.  Which is why I said his HS highlight videos showed one thing and his on-court production last year showed another.  Thanks for repeating exactly what I said.

I guess I was confused by your use of "HAS the potential" instead of "HAD the potential".

I would agree that Anderson HAD the potential to be the next Garcia based on his HS performance--but that was before we saw him in college. 

Now that I've seen both players in college, and can make the direct comparision of both as freshman, I don't think there is any way to credibly argue that Anderson still has Garcia-like potential. That's the flaw with those HS highlight videos--they're edited to make the player look good.

Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
Yeah, but you didn't say it in a passive agressive way that actually backhandedly insults Buzz and MU. 

Wow!  That's a stretch!  Love to know how you came up with that one.

If anything, Jamailman's post contained the insult. His implication was that Buzz took a player with Garcia-level potential and turned him into Erik Williams. Of course, he didn't state it quite so bluntly.  Maybe would you say that he  only inadvertently insulted Buzz and MU.

But let me be perfectly clear for you--I'm of the opinion that Anderson has proved to be nowhere near the same level as Garcia--and I don't hold either Buzz or MU responsible for that fact. 





MtAiryGoldenEagle


Dawson Rental

You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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