MUBB, athletics and academics, etc.

[muguru]

We're coming off back to back S16.  I'd let Buzz handle discipline until someone gets arrested.

I can see why buzz is getting perturbed.

There's a reason Buzz was really close to taking the SMU job. They are messing with his happy, and even worse, it has nothing to do with the off the court incidents. That MIGHT be a bit understandable, but for things that are out of a players control?? Shameful.

[madtownwarrior]

so muguru said it's one of: (academics, discipline, recruiting issue),

and muguru said "out of the player's control"


That rules out academics and discipline (off the court) since these are in the players control.

How can it be a recruiting issue that is the blamed on the player but out of the player's control?

[Aughnanure]

I will say this once more. What i said was, that if the reason gets out that the player(s) that are being "forced" to transfer, that will result in "hiroshima". And it should. If people aren't absolutely livid about it, then I wouldn't know what to say. FWIW, Jamail will NOT be the only transfer.

Liar. You will say this at least 8 more times.

[JTBMU7]

so muguru said it's one of: (academics, discipline, recruiting issue),

and muguru said "out of the player's control"


That rules out academics and discipline (off the court) since these are in the players control.

How can it be a recruiting issue that is the blamed on the player but out of the player's control?

Yeah, what...? Can we stop P-footing around and just say wtf is allegedly going on?

[muguru]

Yeah, what...? Can we stop P-footing around and just say wtf is allegedly going on?

We will all know more in a couple weeks.

[muguru]

so muguru said it's one of: (academics, discipline, recruiting issue),

and muguru said "out of the player's control"


That rules out academics and discipline (off the court) since these are in the players control.

How can it be a recruiting issue that is the blamed on the player but out of the player's control?

Just remember this.....new admin, new rules.

[jesmu84]

We will all know more in a couple weeks.

Will you explain everything after the other transfer?

[MerrittsMustache]

We will all know more in a couple weeks.

FYI - A player from MU will transfer after the 2017-18 season. Mark it down. You heard it from me first.

[nyg]

"Redeem themselves"  If not off court issues, then what did the players do that they have to redeem themselves.  

Is it just me, I don't understand that concept.  Redeem means to make up for a cause lost or an action/misdeed conducted.  Only misdeeds were the off court issues and the players were.............?

If academics, then apply the necessary tutoring that has been described in detail via the media and put out by MU's staff.  So, doubt that.

Recruiting violation, impossible.  The recruits don't recruit themselves and they are already onboard.

If muguru is correct, what on this planet could a student athlete done have that causes the MU staff to get rid of them.  Just makes no common sense.

[GGGG]

It is a mid-year change in Athletic Department academic policy. 

[NersEllenson]

Just remember this.....new admin, new rules.

JUCO's.....perhaps...

[avid1010]

There's a reason Buzz was really close to taking the SMU job. They are messing with his happy, and even worse, it has nothing to do with the off the court incidents. That MIGHT be a bit understandable, but for things that are out of a players control?? Shameful.

so if it doesn't have anything to do with off the court incidents, then it has to be on the court issues?

[jesmu84]

It is a mid-year change in Athletic Department academic policy. 

what was the change? unfortunate that it's going to effect one of the guys on the team. though, you would  think the coaches/players/tutors would be informed of the change and work toward being compliant.

[nyg]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7864558/larry-brown-tells-several-smu-mustangs-players-team

At least Larry Brown has the balls to tell it like it is. 

[madtownwarrior]

so, do you really think MU administration would really enact a rule to kick-off a player that really deserved to be there? 

if so, do you think Buzz being the person he claims to be, would stand for it..

kind of goes against the mission of the school and the person Buzz is...

perhaps said player did something that shows he should not be on the team / enrolled at MU...

[Dawson Rental]

so muguru said it's one of: (academics, discipline, recruiting issue),

and muguru said "out of the player's control"


That rules out academics and discipline (off the court) since these are in the players control.

How can it be a recruiting issue that is the blamed on the player but out of the player's control?

Boneheaded Booster.  If this were to be about Juan's having to leave because he caught a Brewer's playoff game, wouldn't you piss you off?  Just an off the top of my head example to answer your question, not anything my sources have told me.  All my sources have to say is "You ain't got no fraggin' sources, LittleMurs."  Sadly, I believe that they are right.

[JTBMU7]

Just remember this.....new admin, new rules.

I have been keeping out of this, but this is stupid. if you have something to say, say it. If not, wait until  "it" happens and then come on and tell us all "I told you so". you just sound smug/annoying with all these veiled comments so stfu unless you are actually going to make a definitive statement(you too sultan).

And if the issue is with the admin changing the rules, and not the players doing something wrong, who are you protecting by doing this?

[Dr. Blackheart]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7864558/larry-brown-tells-several-smu-mustangs-players-team

At least Larry Brown has the balls to tell it like it is. 

"Brown Out'ed"

[GGGG]

what was the change? unfortunate that it's going to effect one of the guys on the team. though, you would  think the coaches/players/tutors would be informed of the change and work toward being compliant.

My understanding is that they upped the academic qualifications to continue to play...it is an athletic department wide policy.  It will be a near miracle for it not to affect one player...and may affect more.

[muguru]

"Redeem themselves"  If not off court issues, then what did the players do that they have to redeem themselves.  

Is it just me, I don't understand that concept.  Redeem means to make up for a cause lost or an action/misdeed conducted.  Only misdeeds were the off court issues and the players were.............?

If academics, then apply the necessary tutoring that has been described in detail via the media and put out by MU's staff.  So, doubt that.

Recruiting violation, impossible.  The recruits don't recruit themselves and they are already onboard.

If muguru is correct, what on this planet could a student athlete done have that causes the MU staff to get rid of them.  Just makes no common sense.

What if you got hired at your company, and everything you did was completely acceptable under their standards and you did what you were supposed to?? Then suddenly, your company changes hands, and all of a sudden wants to implement new standards, and the standards that you met to get hired originally were no longer acceptable under the new regime, would that be out of your control??

[4everwarriors]

Phew, at least now my diploma will be worth more.

[madtownwarrior]

so you saying academics then as Sultan is....

[Dawson Rental]

"Brown Out'ed"

Wow, it's April 27th and he's telling his starting point guard to take a hike.  Somebody knows of still available recruits somewhere.  This is only a guess, but I'm guessing that SMU will not be elevating academic qualifications for the foreseeable future.

[muguru]

My understanding is that they upped the academic qualifications to continue to play...it is an athletic department wide policy.  It will be a near miracle for it not to affect one player...and may affect more.

This is it. The new admin has implemented new academic policies for ALL the athletic programs. Which is fine, except IMO you HAVE to let kids then meet those new standards and at least "grandfather them in". Not happening with this admin.

[Dawson Rental]

Phew, at least now my diploma will be worth more.

Too late, it's fully depreciated by now.