Scoop vs Scout

[KenoshaWarrior]

Canadian:

I respect your opinon but....

I understand that IWB is not a Marquette Alumni but there are more than a handful of MU fans that care deeply about the program that are not alumni.  At my job at the airport most of them are MU hoop fans and most of them never went to college but they love MU cause most grew up during the AL McGuire days.

IWB and Unclejohn are not MU alumni but both of them care deeply about the program and just because they get some money from a website here or there does not make them any less. 

[hairy worthen]

I understand that IWB is not a Marquette Alumni but there are more than a handful of MU fans that care deeply about the program that are not alumni.  At my job at the airport most of them are MU hoop fans and most of them never went to college but they love MU cause most grew up during the AL McGuire days.

IWB and Unclejohn are not MU alumni but both of them care deeply about the program and just because they get some money from a website here or there does not make them any less. 

i agree with what you are saying. I get frustrated with the "only mu grads can be fans" attitude, however, not sure you can call  yourself an "insider" if you have no connection to the program or university.

[warthog-driver]

No Georgetown Brewery????

Manny's is a damn fine beverage

[Rubie Q]

Then when apparently the gig was up on the "insiders" board he went and created his own website.  Which was all kicked of with a click driving attempt all centered around a huge crapstorm that he created, in another self serving attempt monetize MU basketball fan interest.

I think -- maybe hope is the better word -- that whatever credibility IWB had left took a serious hit after that stunt.

[Aughnanure]

Seems to be some memory fog around here.

Mike Juno started Geocities.  After 2-3 years, he and Dodds joined forces on Rivals, with Dodds promoting the site via his radio gig.

Dodds didn't "hijack" Rivals .. he and Juno had a disagreement over editorial policy (ironically due to someone who has posted in this thread) and decided to leave for Scout.

Juno did it alone for a while .. eventually Uncle John, SoCalWarrior and myself started moderating .. Rivals asked me to take over for Juno .. uncle john left due to his protests over the political board .. then I abandoned Rivals and got Rocky and Spiral to start Scoop.

I guess that reads like a soap opera .. but really, that's 15 years of history, from 1997 to now.    Things have been relatively stable for 5 years now.

It is interesting to theorize .. Had Dodds not been involved years ago / been as editorially strict, that schism wouldn't have happened.  We'd probably all be on Rivals right now, no Scoop, no Scout.

Interesting, most of that is before my time. But I also remember JSOnline had a board that was decently active for a while, and specifically some pretty boy named Abe.


soooo ass**** apparently = pretty boy here. Good to know.

[warthog-driver]

I think -- maybe hope is the better word -- that whatever credibility IWB had left took a serious hit after that stunt.

Not sure what has happened with IWB. He was on the JS payroll when he was the webmaster for a sports site but that didn't work out. His new site is weak, at best. Not sure how he was an "insider" other than he was Dodds butt buddy from grade school and that Dodds incessantly wrote that Ganzer has "more contacts than Bausch & Lombe."

The debacle over Buzz has got to have damaged the guy's credibility, certainly with Buzz and company. Tanned Tommy used Ganzer as a mouth piece but Buzz doesn't crave the spotlight like Crean so there is a lot less "insight" coming from the Al. Ganzer does run that summer tourney but thaqt is about it in terms of being an insider.

[Rubie Q]

The debacle over Buzz has got to have damaged the guy's credibility, certainly with Buzz and company. Tanned Tommy used Ganzer as a mouth piece but Buzz doesn't crave the spotlight like Crean so there is a lot less "insight" coming from the Al. Ganzer does run that summer tourney but thaqt is about it in terms of being an insider.

I don't think the SMU nonsense damaged IWB's credibility with Buzz.

[Sir Lawrence]

Canadian:


IWB and Unclejohn are not MU alumni but both of them care deeply about the program and just because they get some money from a website here or there does not make them any less. 

John went to law school at Marquette. 

[T-Bone]

You should shop Milwaukee. Rehorst makes both Absolut and Grey Goose taste like swill. Phenomenal vodka.

5th-ing the Rehorst.  Their vodka is awesome.  Also good is their pumpkin liquor.  Makes a nice old fashioned.  Though I'm not a fan of their blended whisky - it's fine, but I prefer straight bourbon or rye over blends.

[Canadian Dimes]

Not sure what has happened with IWB. He was on the JS payroll when he was the webmaster for a sports site but that didn't work out. His new site is weak, at best. Not sure how he was an "insider" other than he was Dodds butt buddy from grade school and that Dodds incessantly wrote that Ganzer has "more contacts than Bausch & Lombe."

The debacle over Buzz has got to have damaged the guy's credibility, certainly with Buzz and company. Tanned Tommy used Ganzer as a mouth piece but Buzz doesn't crave the spotlight like Crean so there is a lot less "insight" coming from the Al. Ganzer does run that summer tourney but thaqt is about it in terms of being an insider.

The guy has been an absolute nomad.  Sort of like the person we all know that always has some new great job or get rich quick scheme. 

Unfortunately, he has never apparently learned that the public is not entirely stupid, especially when it pertains to giving away it's money for nothing.  My guess is his pro-am goes by the wayside shortly, as has everything else he has touched. 

Followed shortly thereafter with a relocation to Bloomington to reunite with the only guy that ever gave him the pleasure of a reach around.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

The debacle over Buzz has got to have damaged the guy's credibility, certainly with Buzz and company. Tanned Tommy used Ganzer as a mouth piece but Buzz doesn't crave the spotlight like Crean so there is a lot less "insight" coming from the Al.

According to whom?

-Maybe IWB made the whole thing up
-Maybe Buzz leaked it as a powerplay.

How do we know?

[Canadian Dimes]

5th-ing the Rehorst.  Their vodka is awesome.  Also good is their pumpkin liquor.  Makes a nice old fashioned.  Though I'm not a fan of their blended whisky - it's fine, but I prefer straight bourbon or rye over blends.

my vote goes with Marquette Vodka...from the old Frenn Brothers and Marquette Liquors...the nectar of the gods.

Am a Vodka looooover too.

[Hoopaloop]

The guy has been an absolute nomad.  Sort of like the person we all know that always has some new great job or get rich quick scheme. 

Unfortunately, he has never apparently learned that the public is not entirely stupid, especially when it pertains to giving away it's money for nothing.  My guess is his pro-am goes by the wayside shortly, as has everything else he has touched. 

Followed shortly thereafter with a relocation to Bloomington to reunite with the only guy that ever gave him the pleasure of a reach around.

Extremely insightful

[Canadian Dimes]

Where else can I post on a 100 page thread about crawlers v. Minnows on eagle lake and find a fellow scooper that has fished with the same guide?  Huh?   Only on MUScoop.

Going tomorrow to Red Wing to fish the Mississippi.   Monster eyes.  

Oh, and the bball talk is great.  

I nominate Lloyd Moore's Legs for most creative moniker.

real are u BS ing or are you really a walleye fisherman?

i actually loved the fishing/boundary waters banter on the Thread of Threads.

been beating the walleye up.  Caught 12 really nice walleye in three 2-3 hr excursions this week along with 6-7 smallies, 6-7 largemaouth and a pig!!  almost 4 lbs whitebass.

good times

[Henry Sugar]

If I may quote from my absolutely new favorite website, 12bottlebar.com

Why drink something flavorless?  Classic cocktails are meant to taste good.  Vodka is meant to deliver alcohol while you taste the other ingredients. There's a big gap there.  Vodka also has a reputation as the liquor of choice for people who don't like liquor, and in many ways, this is very true.

[Rubie Q]

According to whom?

-Maybe IWB made the whole thing up
-Maybe Buzz leaked it as a powerplay.

How do we know?

I don't think IWB is dumb enough to run something like that without a source. It'd be career suicide.

Read his post on the subject again. There's only one place he could've been getting his information from.

[mu_hilltopper]

IWB and Dodds do it for the money as much as I do.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

A vodka distilled in New Richmond, WI called 45th Parallel is very tasteless and very good.

http://www.45thparallelspirits.com/reviews.html

[warthog-driver]

According to whom?

-Maybe IWB made the whole thing up
-Maybe Buzz leaked it as a powerplay.

How do we know?

Exactly. My guess is IWB did not have the complete sight picture either.

[real chili 83]

real are u BS ing or are you really a walleye fisherman?

i actually loved the fishing/boundary waters banter on the Thread of Threads.

been beating the walleye up.  Caught 12 really nice walleye in three 2-3 hr excursions this week along with 6-7 smallies, 6-7 largemaouth and a pig!!  almost 4 lbs whitebass.

good times

Fished today in Red Wing in pool 4 on the Mississippi.  2eyes and one perch. Tough day with a falling barometer and winds at 25 mph.  Had 2-3 foot waves at the "y"', just south of the Red Wing dam.

The FlW is having a tournament there next weekend.  Lots of 21 foot Rangers with 300 Mercs on the river pre-fishing.  70k rigs.  Met walleye fisherman at the bait shop from Texas, Tennessee, Ohio, etc.

Learned how to fish today with a Dubuque rig.  Gotta keep it bouncing on the bottom.

Heading out tomorrow again.  Need to catch some shore lunch!

Go Warriors!!!!!!!

Dimes, next  time you head to Hayward, pm me.  In-laws have a cabin about 30 min away.  The Brule is a classic fly fishing river.

[real chili 83]

A vodka distilled in New Richmond, WI called 45th Parallel is very tasteless and very good.

http://www.45thparallelspirits.com/reviews.html

How does it compare to Shakers?

[Dawson Rental]

Cmon...Murff is a basketball expert.  Just ask him.

With all fairness, I know he played at MU and was a high school coach, but his style went out with ball-hugger shorts.

If not the two handed set shot.  I am NOT exaggerating about his total write off of Travis Diener's abilities coming out of HS.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Exactly. My guess is IWB did not have the complete sight picture either.

Wait, so the fact that Buzz might have leaked the SMU rumor to IWB on purpose has cause IWB to lose credibility with Buzz because Buzz doesn't like the spotlight?

I think I'm missing something.

[warthog-driver]

Wait, so the fact that Buzz might have leaked the SMU rumor to IWB on purpose has cause IWB to lose credibility with Buzz because Buzz doesn't like the spotlight?

I think I'm missing something.

You are missing something. The facts.

[warthog-driver]

Had a great beer last night - Lakefront Rendezvous. I had no idea it is from Milwaukee until someone pointed that out. Funny that is is available in Seattle.