Scoop vs Scout

[warthog-driver]

I am curious. How many of you frequent both MU Boards? I go over there to read sometimes (rarely, perhaps every third week.) I often see people over there make snide comments about this site, as if somehow Dodd's board is better in an unstated way. Many over there "refuse" to visit here, insinuating it is perhaps distasteful. Frankly, I much prefer things here.

[strotty]

I got my start on Scout, and find that more of the content and discussion there is on-court-related.

[Goose]

Do check it out it something big is going down but find Scoop to be the Holy Grail of MU ball.

[Blackhat]

used to be a member at scout.   you've got to be old or a dork to enjoy scout, imo.   so some of you might want to check it out.  (the horror, Dodds would delete my message if i promoted scoop there, highlighting that the douche-ary is institutionalized there)

[warthog-driver]

Al once said, "If the waitresses have dirty ankles the food will be good." Somehow, I think Al would prefer the unbridled give and take of this board versus the sanctimonious drivel of Dodds'.

Al is the guy who stood on the scorer's table after a last second win over Wisconsin, inciting the Hughes twins father to flip him off. Al got into a fist fight with Toone at half time of the NCAA Cincy game. Ted Sorensen wrote in his biography of Bobby Kennedy that the only two white men who could safely walk the streets of Harlem and Bed Sty in the spring and summer of 68 were Bobby and Al. There was grit under his finger nails, a never back down fierceness developed during his teens leaping over the bar in his father's joint to take on a nasty drunk. That attitude is what permeates this site, gives it its personae, adds color, and defines its character. There was an edge to Al and that is very much evident here.

Dodds site is Ward Cleaver who only boned June every fourth Saturday. It is Country Club Republican with an affected politeness, a veneer of civility trying desperately to mask deep seated jealousies, hatreds, rivalries, and psychoses. Marquette Hoops is white bread, milk toast, roast chicken on Sundays after Mass. It has all the honesty of Gibson Martinis made with no-name hooch dispensed from a Grey Goose bottle.  Dodds pretends to be a hard hitting journalist dispensing insight and honesty. He delivers neither. He likens his editorial policies to Joe Stalin and in a way he is right - I will only accept what I agree with. And yet, he lacks Stalin's balls. Stalin allowed his minions to play themselves out against each other in a virtual Hegelian dialectic in order to arrive at the best decision.

I very much prefer Scoop. It has warts, it has battle scars, and it has Chicos flying under a Nom de Cyber but it most genuinely reflects the spirit that was Al.

[Knight Commission]

Not a member but if there is a major event I will check out what's going on. The leader of that board Dodds (sp?)   made me change my "Name" when he hijacked the Rivals board from Mike Juno. Said someone from CUSA told him to tell me. Kool Aid drinkers....

[Sir Lawrence]

Al once said, "If the waitresses have dirty ankles the food will be good." Somehow, I think Al would prefer the unbridled give and take of this board versus the sanctimonious drivel of Dodds'.

Al is the guy who stood on the scorer's table after a last second win over Wisconsin, inciting the Hughes twins father to flip him off. Al got into a fist fight with Toone at half time of the NCAA Cincy game. Ted Sorensen wrote in his biography of Bobby Kennedy that the only two white men who could safely walk the streets of Harlem and Bed Sty in the spring and summer of 68 were Bobby and Al. There was grit under his finger nails, a never back down fierceness developed during his teens leaping over the bar in his father's joint to take on a nasty drunk. That attitude is what permeates this site, gives it its personae, adds color, and defines its character. There was an edge to Al and that is very much evident here.

Dodds site is Ward Cleaver who only boned June every fourth Saturday. It is Country Club Republican with an affected politeness, a veneer of civility trying desperately to mask deep seated jealousies, hatreds, rivalries, and psychoses. Marquette Hoops is white bread, milk toast, roast chicken on Sundays after Mass. It has all the honesty of Gibson Martinis made with no-name hooch dispensed from a Grey Goose bottle.  Dodds pretends to be a hard hitting journalist dispensing insight and honesty. He delivers neither. He likens his editorial policies to Joe Stalin and in a way he is right - I will only accept what I agree with. And yet, he lacks Stalin's balls. Stalin allowed his minions to play themselves out against each other in a virtual Hegelian dialectic in order to arrive at the best decision.

I very much prefer Scoop. It has warts, it has battle scars, and it has Chicos flying under a Nom de Cyber but it most genuinely reflects the spirit that was Al.

A few comments:

1.  the quote is "if the waitress has dirty ankles, the chili should be good."  Al belonged to Westmore CC and ate pretty well, most days.
2.  Grey Goose is vastly overrated.
3.  I like roast chicken on Sundays.  Who doesn't?

I stopped reading Scout when my computer picked up a virus from Dodd's site a couple of years ago.  Up to that moment, I'd mostly agree with your viewpoint.  The posters call him "Doddsy" or "Doddsie."  Good grief.  Makes my skin crawl.

[mr.MUskie]

The posters call him "Doddsy" or "Doddsie."  Good grief.  Makes my skin crawl.

Like "Cubbies."  Same reaction.

[brewcity77]

I frequent and post on both sites, though I like the tone and temperament of this one better. For some reason, Dodds is convinced that I run this site, so any time I bring up this board, it's taken as though I'm trying to drive posters from his site over to this one*. There's sometimes value there, but there's definitely more of an elitist tone on that site that I'm not a fan of. I find it funny that a fair number of posters there seem to look down their noses at this site and feel there is some unspoken rivalry going on. Last I checked, we're all Marquette fans.




* Rocky, Hilltopper, Spiral, and company, feel free to start cutting me checks any time...

[BCHoopster]

Dodds controls the freedom of speech scenario on his board.  I knew that in the past, certain players under Al got taken care of, even a friend at the time named Al McGuire jr., told me it
was true, so I got band.  UCLA had Sam Gilbert, MU had somebody. Of course, I know who it was.  Back then, Sam Bowie visited MU and then Kentucky, there money at KU was much stronger than MU wanted to give.  Back then, you had some real characters, John Wooden, Jerry Tarkainian, they all had boosters throwing money around.  It is happening today as well,
like Baylor, who wants to go to Waco?  All of a sudden, Scott Drew is an incredible personality, I take Buzz anyday.

[warthog-driver]

A few comments:

1.  the quote is "if the waitress has dirty ankles, the chili should be good."  Al belonged to Westmore CC and ate pretty well, most days.
2.  Grey Goose is vastly overrated.
3.  I like roast chicken on Sundays.  Who doesn't?

I stopped reading Scout when my computer picked up a virus from Dodd's site a couple of years ago.  Up to that moment, I'd mostly agree with your viewpoint.  The posters call him "Doddsy" or "Doddsie."  Good grief.  Makes my skin crawl.

You are correct about the chili. I extrapolated to food since there is but one source of True Chili Goodness.

I also agree with your assessment of Grey Goose. It is a tribute to superior marketing for the vodka is nothing remarkable and yet commands double the price of my Absolut. And therein lies the irony - my comparison is precisely for the undeserved arrogance and elitism of Dodds' site. Besides, Grey Goose is also French and I refuse to give any of my sheckels to those folks.

Roast chicken dinner after Mass is predictable. So too is MarquetteHoops.

There is a virtual love fest over there with Dodds that is creepy. I am also amused at how he will delete any reference to Scoop. Talk about paranoia.

[brewcity77]

I also agree with your assessment of Grey Goose. It is a tribute to superior marketing for the vodka is nothing remarkable and yet commands double the price of my Absolut. And therein lies the irony - my comparison is precisely for the undeserved arrogance and elitism of Dodds' site. Besides, Grey Goose is also French and I refuse to give any of my sheckels to those folks.

You should shop Milwaukee. Rehorst makes both Absolut and Grey Goose taste like swill. Phenomenal vodka.

[tower912]

I go to both places.   Some days you are in the mood for Chipotle, some days you are in the mood for Qdoba.    Some days you are in the mood for Oberon, some days you are in the mood for Breckenridge Porter.   Scout is less likely to devolve into random segues and name calling.   Sometimes that is good, sometimes that is bad. 

[brewcity77]

I go to both places.   Some days you are in the mood for Chipotle, some days you are in the mood for Qdoba.    Some days you are in the mood for Oberon, some days you are in the mood for Breckenridge Porter.   Scout is less likely to devolve into random segues and name calling.   Sometimes that is good, sometimes that is bad. 

Did Muggsy leave? 

[madtownwarrior]

Second the Rehorst vodka, the gin is very good and their whiskey is awesome...

You should shop Milwaukee. Rehorst makes both Absolut and Grey Goose taste like swill. Phenomenal vodka.

[warthog-driver]

I go to both places.   Some days you are in the mood for Chipotle, some days you are in the mood for Qdoba.    Some days you are in the mood for Oberon, some days you are in the mood for Breckenridge Porter.   Scout is less likely to devolve into random segues and name calling.   Sometimes that is good, sometimes that is bad. 

I like the color of Scoop much better. I would disagree about the name calling being absent over there. Uncle John is an expert at staking out some virtual moral higher ground. And don't get me started on JG/Red Baron/Murf/Great One.

[tower912]

Did Muggsy leave? 

I said 'less likely', not 'never'.    The next time that guy has a thought that he internalizes rather than posts will be the first.  

[warthog-driver]

You should shop Milwaukee. Rehorst makes both Absolut and Grey Goose taste like swill. Phenomenal vodka.

Not familiar with Rehorst but it is likely not available in Seattle. As a grizzled fighter pilot I have developed a taste for single malt, especially the Islays. There is a world class brew pub here in Issaquah that is owned by Rogue out of Oregon. Not only do they make the finest hand crafted beers this side of Germany but they also make spirits. They have a single malt which has been, "Aged Six Fortnights." Priceless.

[warriorchick]

I mostly visited Scout to antagonize the West Virginia fans on their board after our win/Buzz's dance and after Jae "stole" POY honors from Kevin Jones.  Cheap entertainment.

[TallTitan34]

The fact that this thread would not be allowed to exist on the scout site is why I pick scoop.

[Goose]

Well played Titan.

[warthog-driver]

The fact that this thread would not be allowed to exist on the scout site is why I pick scoop.

Very well said. Says it all, actually

[BallBoy]

I read both boards.  I think Scout has more articles, video/audio content, and "extended" content through the network but you need to be a member.  The forums are similar but I think Scoop can get more negative but more detailed on off the court incidents and speculation.  That is a factor of Dodds keeping an eye open.  Both have good insights and posters while maintaining their own cast of characters.

I think Dodds board did take a big hit when IWB started his own board.  He doesn't post there much any more and he was really where Dodds got most of his recruiting information on the Insiders Board.  

Mark Miller also has slowed down his posting there which didn't help either.

Dodds is more of a journalist/interviewer who does good audio content while Mark and IWB where more likely to call a "buddy" and let you know what was going on.

Regardless of the forum, you get a bunch of folks who hint that they know something but won't post it.  When it doesn't happen they tell you things are fluid and change.

[4everwarriors]

Al once said, "If the waitresses have dirty ankles the food will be good." Somehow, I think Al would prefer the unbridled give and take of this board versus the sanctimonious drivel of Dodds'.

Al is the guy who stood on the scorer's table after a last second win over Wisconsin, inciting the Hughes twins father to flip him off. Al got into a fist fight with Toone at half time of the NCAA Cincy game. Ted Sorensen wrote in his biography of Bobby Kennedy that the only two white men who could safely walk the streets of Harlem and Bed Sty in the spring and summer of 68 were Bobby and Al. There was grit under his finger nails, a never back down fierceness developed during his teens leaping over the bar in his father's joint to take on a nasty drunk. That attitude is what permeates this site, gives it its personae, adds color, and defines its character. There was an edge to Al and that is very much evident here.

Dodds site is Ward Cleaver who only boned June every fourth Saturday. It is Country Club Republican with an affected politeness, a veneer of civility trying desperately to mask deep seated jealousies, hatreds, rivalries, and psychoses. Marquette Hoops is white bread, milk toast, roast chicken on Sundays after Mass. It has all the honesty of Gibson Martinis made with no-name hooch dispensed from a Grey Goose bottle.  Dodds pretends to be a hard hitting journalist dispensing insight and honesty. He delivers neither. He likens his editorial policies to Joe Stalin and in a way he is right - I will only accept what I agree with. And yet, he lacks Stalin's balls. Stalin allowed his minions to play themselves out against each other in a virtual Hegelian dialectic in order to arrive at the best decision.

I very much prefer Scoop. It has warts, it has battle scars, and it has Chicos flying under a Nom de Cyber but it most genuinely reflects the spirit that was Al.

Eloquent man, simply eloquent.

[brewcity77]

Not familiar with Rehorst but it is likely not available in Seattle. As a grizzled fighter pilot I have developed a taste for single malt, especially the Islays. There is a world class brew pub here in Issaquah that is owned by Rogue out of Oregon. Not only do they make the finest hand crafted beers this side of Germany but they also make spirits. They have a single malt which has been, "Aged Six Fortnights." Priceless.

Seattle's a great town to drink in...really enjoyed going out when I made it to the left coast. Rogue's Dead Guy is quality, and love their Chocolate Stout. If you ever get back Midwest, definitely give Rehorst a shot. Whether in a mix, on the rocks, or straight up, it's very good stuff.