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RushmoreAcademy

Reports saying that it's going to be Ohio's Groce.
Flavor of the week hire, it appears.  Anybody know much about him?

Hoopaloop

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on March 26, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
Reports saying that it's going to be Ohio's Groce.
Flavor of the week hire, it appears.  Anybody know much about him?

He was on the lists of some posters here 4 years ago for the MU job.  Top recruiter for Thad Matta at Xavier and Ohio State.  Landed Conley and the big fella at OSU.

If MU lost Buzz, he would have been on my list of 5 guys to look at.
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Blackhat

 Keno still making your list, Chico?

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on March 26, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
Reports saying that it's going to be Ohio's Groce.
Flavor of the week hire, it appears.  Anybody know much about him?


He was 2 Akron points away from being on no one's coaching "wish list" this offseason.

MU82

Somebody on another thread said this would be a bad hire, but I don't see why. His resume reminds me of Self's to this point in Self's career at Tulsa. He certainly has more of a history as a recruiter than Shaka.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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Hoopaloop

Quote from: Stone Cold on March 26, 2012, 09:48:55 PM
Keno still making your list, Chico?

Yes, yes he is.  Absolutely.  Yes, he is definitely still on Chicos my list.  Along with Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Adoph Rupp.
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brewcity77

He's #6! He's #6!

...on Illinois' wish list, that is.

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Groce is a nice hire, but well below what Illini Nation expected.

ZiggysFryBoy

but he's a white guy?  what happened to Theus?

Hoopaloop

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
He's #6! He's #6!

...on Illinois' wish list, that is.

He can recruit.  Give him 5 years to see if he works out.
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mr.MUskie

Some Illini fans not happy...

If we hire Groce, we are hiring the brother of the guy Kelvin Sampson hired to be IUs video coordinator, right? And this guy was Eric Gordon's AAU coach, right? So we would be hiring the brother of a guy who was likely a key figure in the Eric gordon sabotage/deception/whatever you want to call it right? This sits well with Illini fans?

Groce 34-30 MAC record...The MAC is not up to par conference..

Stevens 73-17 Horizon

Smart 38-16 CAA

MU82

What was Buzz's record at New Orleans?
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warthog-driver

Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 26, 2012, 09:51:15 PM
Yes, yes he is.  Absolutely.  Yes, he is definitely still on Chicos my list.  Along with Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Adoph Rupp.

brewcity77

Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 26, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Some Illini fans not happy...

If we hire Groce, we are hiring the brother of the guy Kelvin Sampson hired to be IUs video coordinator, right? And this guy was Eric Gordon's AAU coach, right? So we would be hiring the brother of a guy who was likely a key figure in the Eric gordon sabotage/deception/whatever you want to call it right? This sits well with Illini fans?

Groce 34-30 MAC record...The MAC is not up to par conference..

Stevens 73-17 Horizon

Smart 38-16 CAA

Oh my lord...I didn't realize that. Wow, I'm laughing my ass off at that. And while he may have a rep as a recruiter...well, he has to do it at more than Ohio with castoffs from tOSU. It may well be an okay hire, but I don't think Groce grew up dreaming of the Orange and Blue. For better or worse, I give him 6 years.

MU82

Not only Stevens and Shaka, of course. You gotta know the Illinois people at least reached out to Buzz, who very politely (I'm sure) said thanks but no thanks.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

hdog1017

Did Groce accept the job?  I haven't heard anything, which is a positive result for U of I considering how this search has gone so far...

RushmoreAcademy

Don't think he has officially accepted so far...sounds like it's going to happen though... here is the excerpt from the Trib article:
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"Barring an 11th-hour surprise, a national coaching search that began amid such promise will end smacking of desperation. If Groce becomes the next Illinois head coach as several sources expect, he will accept the job knowing at least five other candidates decided it was not for them."

dwaderoy2004

Who are the five that turned it down besides Shaka and Brad Stevens?  Is Buzz officially on that list?  Who am I missing?

MuMark


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Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 27, 2012, 10:53:41 AM
Who are the five that turned it down besides Shaka and Brad Stevens?  Is Buzz officially on that list?  Who am I missing?

Romar.

RushmoreAcademy

Here's the article. No official list, but a lot of guys list.... Buzz is not one of the names mentioned:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0327-haugh-illinois-chicago--20120327,0,642550.column

brewcity77

So the Illinois coaching search is becoming even more of a fiasco. UI put out the info that they would be unveiling Groce at a press conference at 3:00 today, then 15 minutes later announced there would be no press conference. What a clusterf**k.

MU82

Ridiculous that Illinois is hiring a guy who had little college head-coaching experience and not all that much success in that job.

Thank goodness, Marquette would never turn to a guy who had, say, a laughable 14-17 record in his sole season as a mid-major coach!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

NotAnAlum

Did you intend Teal?  While I see you point there are some pretty important differences.
First Buzz was on staff for a year so everyone almost a year to "measure" him.
Second Buzz was a lot younger than this guy so what he had "or hadn't" accomplished has to be measured by age.
Third Buzz was the current players choice.  In the back of their mind MU had to figure that if they kept the Amigos happy they had a NCAA appearence and likely even sweet 16 almost in the bag.
Ill gets none of that.  Big Risk. couldn't happen to a nicer school!

MarquetteDano

Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 27, 2012, 02:16:01 PM
Did you intend Teal?  While I see you point there are some pretty important differences.
First Buzz was on staff for a year so everyone almost a year to "measure" him.
Second Buzz was a lot younger than this guy so what he had "or hadn't" accomplished has to be measured by age.
Third Buzz was the current players choice.  In the back of their mind MU had to figure that if they kept the Amigos happy they had a NCAA appearence and likely even sweet 16 almost in the bag.
Ill gets none of that.  Big Risk. couldn't happen to a nicer school!

One should add to your list that we had a coach leave in the middle of the night in our case whilst Illinois fired their coach and presumably had a plan to replace him?

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