Jake Thomas has Jimmer Range

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

You've seen him play how many times?  I'm guessing 0-1 with the odds being closer to 0.

Jake was a very good all-around player at Racine St. Catherine's and while he may not be a major minute contributer for MU, he's a very heady player who can help MU the next 3 years.  He may surprise some on this board.

Ted,  from the research I've done,  he was quite good at St. Cat's.  Do you have any info you can provide here?

I've only seen him in the preseason scrimmages.  He looked quite athletic to me......not a Vander Blue,  but more than enough to stay in front of his man if he were determined to do so.  He also looked to be very well coordinated.

[GGGG]

Look at the scholarship table.  I thought this was obvious.  It should also be noted that someone either transfers or doesn't come every year under Buzz.

Learn to read the scholarship table.  We are fine for 2012-13, and only are one over for 2013-14 if Otule is granted a sixth year.

[TedBaxter]

Ted,  from the research I've done,  he was quite good at St. Cat's.  Do you have any info you can provide here?

I've only seen him in the preseason scrimmages.  He looked quite athletic to me......not a Vander Blue,  but more than enough to stay in front of his man if he were determined to do so.  He also looked to be very well coordinated.

http://www.usdcoyotes.com/sports/mbball/bio.asp?PLAYER_ID=2987

[GGGG]

You've seen him play how many times?  I'm guessing 0-1 with the odds being closer to 0.

Twice.  In the 2008-09 state tournament.  He blew up for 30+ against some dinky rural team, and was held in check by Aquinas.  

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Where do you even see his stats?  The wiki has like random game stats.  How do we know those are accurate, and how do we know the games they don't have stats for (the large majority of the games) that he has been sitting on the bench?

Totally valid point.  Everyone,  including myself,  is going off the wiki game log.  I think the prevalence of DNP's to games with accumulated stats leads one to think the games without stats to be assumed DNP's.  Regardless,  I think Bush HS had another guy playing minutes behind Ridley.  He may have not been a "true" center,  but he played when Ridley was out.  Complete and total conjecture,  but it is an educated guess that makes more sense than Ridley never leaving the game.....even when they were up double digits.

[TedBaxter]

Twice.  In the 2008-09 state tournament.  He blew up for 30+ against some dinky rural team, and was held in check by Aquinas.  

I think he can help this program so we'll have to disagree I guess.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Learn to read the scholarship table.  We are fine for 2012-13, and only are one over for 2013-14 if Otule is granted a sixth year.

Otule is going to play a 6th year.  That's why I said look at the scholarship table.  Do you really think there will be no fluctuation on the roster or are you just arguing to argue???  If history is an indication......if common sense is taken into account.....there will be fluctuation in the roster.  Again,  this is obvious.

[nathanziarek]

At some point is Otule just going to be sick of being at school? What if there's not a grad program he's interested in? What if DG advances to the point, next year, that he's playing all but a few minutes per game and Otule is riding the pine?

I'm not sure why there's so much confidence over what a young kid is going to do in two years. Would you guarantee you're going to be at your current residence in two years? Your job?

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Otule is not a guarantee.  Roster fluctuation is.

[GGGG]

Otule is going to play a 6th year.  That's why I said look at the scholarship table.  Do you really think there will be no fluctuation on the roster or are you just arguing to argue???  If history is an indication......if common sense is taken into account.....there will be fluctuation in the roster.  Again,  this is obvious.

No kidding.

But why would you say that "it's not definitive that (Durley) will even be at MU at this point?"  Well, no kidding.  You could say the same thing about Ferguson and the Taylors.  But you know absolutely nothing about this...you are just pulling something out of your a**.

The only fact is this....IF we have no transfers after this year AND next year, AND all players we have signed to NLIs show up in 2012, AND the two verbal commitments sign their NLIs and show in 2013, AND Otule is granted a sixth year, THEN will will be one over.  That is the only fact you or I know...Buzz may know how this is going to play out, he might not.  But he has over a year to figure it out.

[4everwarriors]

Probably already been figured out

[GGGG]

Probably already been figured out

Yep.  And it may be Durley, but I would be tremendously surprised because his mom reiterated his commitment to MU when the JUCO comment first came out, and the dude tweets about #mubb regularly.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

But why would you say that "it's not definitive that (Durley) will even be at MU at this point?"  Well, no kidding.  You could say the same thing about Ferguson and the Taylors.  But you know absolutely nothing about this...you are just pulling something out of your a**.

I was trying to be diplomatic.  Steve Taylor has a much better chance of being in an MU uniform next season than Durley.

[GGGG]

I was trying to be diplomatic.  Steve Taylor has a much better chance of being in an MU uniform next season than Durley.

Why are you so fixated on *next* year?  Next year isn't the issue....2013 is.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Jake Thomas South Dakota Stats



Season- 09-10                      
Minutes-1042                        
MPG-32.6
FG-120-285
FG%-.421
3P-89-202
3P%-.441
PTS-13.3
FT%-.828
REB-4.0
AST-2.2
BLK-0.3
STL-1.0
Fouls-1.3
TO-1.8


Season- 10-11
Minutes-1018
MPG-32.8
FG-118-325
FG%-.363
3P-86-248
3P%-.347
FT%-.833
REB-4.9
AST-2.4
BLK-0.3
STL-0.9
Fouls-2.2
TO-1.6

Last year for him looked like a down year for him % wise but still think he is really good

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

I think Jake was the focal point of defenses his last year and that is why his percentages dropped.  I do think he is a good shooter.  I registered for the South Dakota forum and will ask for their insights on his game.  It should be interesting to hear what they think of him.

[wadesworld]

I think Jake was the focal point of defenses his last year and that is why his percentages dropped.  I do think he is a good shooter.  I registered for the South Dakota forum and will ask for their insights on his game.  It should be interesting to hear what they think of him.

They are going to think he is a god.  This is a team that is literally the lowest of low-majors.  They moved up to D1 within the last 5 years (not sure exactly when it was).  He was one of their better players.  But he is not a Big-East caliber player, which is why he is walking on.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

They are going to think he is a god.  This is a team that is literally the lowest of low-majors.  They moved up to D1 within the last 5 years (not sure exactly when it was).  He was one of their better players.  But he is not a Big-East caliber player, which is why he is walking on.

Yes,  I know to take a large grain of salt with the good.  I'm most interested on their judgment of his ability on defense.  Everyone here is judging the book by its cover.....

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Jake Thomas South Dakota Stats



Season- 09-10                      
Minutes-1042                        
MPG-32.6
FG-120-285
FG%-.421
3P-89-202
3P%-.441
PTS-13.3
FT%-.828
REB-4.0
AST-2.2
BLK-0.3
STL-1.0
Fouls-1.3
TO-1.8


Season- 10-11
Minutes-1018
MPG-32.8
FG-118-325
FG%-.363
3P-86-248
3P%-.347
FT%-.833
REB-4.9
AST-2.4
BLK-0.3
STL-0.9
Fouls-2.2
TO-1.6

Last year for him looked like a down year for him % wise but still think he is really good

The drop-off in percentages really don't concern me.  That happens pretty frequently for various reasons.  Check out Robb Logterman's stats.....pretty similar.

Stats
Year                           GP   FG   FGA   FG%   3FG   3FGA   3PT%   FT   FTA   FT%   REB   RPG   AST   APG   PTS   PPG
1990-91 Marquette    29    103    267    .386    54    148    .365    51    61    .836    69    2.4    89    2.3    311    10.7
1991-92 Marquette    29    124    257    .482    69    155    .445    39    55    .709    64    2.2    65    2.2    356    12.3
1992-93 Marquette    28    61    164    .372    46    124    .371    32    39    .821    53    1.9    61    2.1    200    7.1
1993-94 Marquette                         41    49    .837                  

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The drop-off in percentages really don't concern me.  That happens pretty frequently for various reasons.  Check out Robb Logterman's stats.....pretty similar.

Stats
Year                           GP   FG   FGA   FG%   3FG   3FGA   3PT%   FT   FTA   FT%   REB   RPG   AST   APG   PTS   PPG
1990-91 Marquette    29    103    267    .386    54    148    .365    51    61    .836    69    2.4    89    2.3    311    10.7
1991-92 Marquette    29    124    257    .482    69    155    .445    39    55    .709    64    2.2    65    2.2    356    12.3
1992-93 Marquette    28    61    164    .372    46    124    .371    32    39    .821    53    1.9    61    2.1    200    7.1
1993-94 Marquette                         41    49    .837                  

Even Robb back then played against better competition than Jake at Dakota.

He's a walk on for a reason, move along.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Even Robb back then played against better competition than Jake at Dakota.

He's a walk on for a reason, move along.

Dismissing him because he's a walk-on is myopic.  The guy scored 40 points going 11-16 for 3 in a DI game.  He's not Jimmer,  Reddick,  or Diener,  but he has talent and he will hit his share of 3's at MU.  At the end of the day,  you have to put the ball in the basket.......who on the team can shoot nearly as well???

[🏀]

Dismissing him because he's a walk-on is myopic.  The guy scored 40 points going 11-16 for 3 in a DI game.  He's not Jimmer,  Reddick,  or Diener,  but he has talent and he will hit his share of 3's at MU.  At the end of the day,  you have to put the ball in the basket.......who on the team can shoot nearly as well???

Any player that was smart enough to save his family $35,000 or a so a year and play for free.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Vander Blue was 1-5 vs. Murray St. and 1-7 vs. Florida.  Jamil, Junior,  and Todd.......all "offensively bankrupt" for the tail-end of the season.  Jake will see the floor.

[77ncaachamps]

Jake has Novak range in a Diener frame.

[Stronghold]

He can shoot, but will he be a defensive liability?

If Baylor can use Heslip as much as they do I'm not worried about Thomas.