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Canadian Dimes

Only one not playing scared...only one playing with passion n effort

Blackhat

Need better pg play, against the elite ain't cutting it.....Vander needs to learn how to finish, leaves a crap load of points on the floor.   Need a big that can board and block shots.   

When we face these uber talented elite teams we find out where our talent really stands.

Knight Commission


CTWarrior

We were our bad selves tonight.  If DJO and Crowder have off nights, we cannot win.  Just not enough talent elsewhere.  Blue and Cadougan were dreadful, our shot selection in the second half was brutal.  What happened to paint touches?  I've watched this tournament a lot and if there is one thing you can count on, its that the team that starts firing threes early in the shot clock will lose every time.

Thanks to the guys for a great season.  Hate for us to go out playing so badly.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

forgetful

Everyone showed up and played their heart out.  Crowder and DJO pressed a little too much and they ended up looking tight.  Jamil Wilson had an outstanding game and had the most energy out there most of the game.  Gardner played with a wooden leg.

Some of our shots fall and we get the correct call on the flagrant and we would have walked away with a comfortable win.

Dish

Every time Blue had the ball in transition in the open floor (going 1 on 3), I literally screamed at my tv "bring it out". Sadly, Blue never took my advice.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on March 22, 2012, 11:20:37 PM
Only one not playing scared...only one playing with passion n effort

Actually, he's the only one who shot respectably. I have no doubt that MU would beat FL in a best of 7 but that doesn't matter. FL deserved to win tonight and I hope they win on Saturday afternoon as well.


Blackhat

Quote from: MUDish on March 22, 2012, 11:40:44 PM
Every time Blue had the ball in transition in the open floor (going 1 on 3), I literally screamed at my tv "bring it out". Sadly, Blue never took my advice.

Yeah, he's just not THAT good.   Don't think he ever will be, sadly.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Mayo played possessed. Great game by him. Let's face it...Florida had more talent top to bottom than we did. Gotta think Donovan taled to Pitino.

muwarrior97

Mayo brought it, surprisingly after first few minutes team just seemed flat.....I will think Buzz will lament what coulda been and say we were not US.....props to Gators their D was better then I thought
#RGV #ReturnTheWarriorMindset

madtownwarrior

surprisingly - Mayo only bright spot.   A healthy Gardner, Otule back and Wilson.  We may be okay.  Don't expect much from Cadougan, Blue or others...

77fan88warrior

Quote from: forgetful on March 22, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Everyone showed up and played their heart out.  Crowder and DJO pressed a little too much and they ended up looking tight.  Jamil Wilson had an outstanding game and had the most energy out there most of the game.  Gardner played with a wooden leg.

Some of our shots fall and we get the correct call on the flagrant and we would have walked away with a comfortable win.
I agree that Wilson had great energy as well. it seemed odd that DJO didn't try to take over a little more but maybe he met his match.

CTWarrior

Quote from: MUDish on March 22, 2012, 11:40:44 PM
Every time Blue had the ball in transition in the open floor (going 1 on 3), I literally screamed at my tv "bring it out". Sadly, Blue never took my advice.

Been screaming it at him for two years.  He's just really bad offensively.  Great rebounder, pretty good defender, but just a mess trying to score.
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Dish

Quote from: CTWarrior on March 22, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
Been screaming it at him for two years.  He's just really bad offensively.  Great rebounder, pretty good defender, but just a mess trying to score.

I should have said I've been screaming at him for two years too, just a bit louder tonight.

Blue is probably the most frustrating player I've seen at MU. Has great athletic abilities, seems like he should be a stud, but is a terrrible decision maker, not even trying to be mean to the kid, but he's just such a terrible decision maker. His offensive game is so bad, it's deflating.

77fan88warrior

Blue is getting beat on about finishing but he actually did a good job of bringing ball up the floor.

muwarrior97

I am OK with most of Vander's game BUT he clearly needs to work on his shot from 10-15 ft out, and also his finish at the rim.......he has some of the weirdest spin when he puts the ball up off glass, does not finish near enough for an athletic 6'4" kid......get in the gym and keep working
#RGV #ReturnTheWarriorMindset

Mike Deane's Seat Belt

i dont think there is much vander is going to be able to do to change his game at this point. For as highly recruited as he was, he has developed zero offensive game. Give me about any starting junior guard in the last 10 years over blue next year.

mu_hilltopper

When a chorus of fans is shouting "DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!" when Vander is streaking down the court with the ball, you'd have to think the coaches are saying the same thing.  Not sure why they haven't beaten that out of him. 

Vander just does not have the software version necessary to place his body in the right spot, place the ball in the right place around the rim while defenders are on him.   

Henry Sugar

How old is Vander?  18?  Maybe he just turned 19?

I have very little concern about his ability to finish improving as he becomes more physically mature.

I'd rather Vander attack the rim and get stuffed than watch another contested three or long two.  One of the reasons, MU shot terribly was because they took a lot of bad shots last night.
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Dreadman24

Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on March 23, 2012, 12:18:49 AM
i dont think there is much vander is going to be able to do to change his game at this point. For as highly recruited as he was, he has developed zero offensive game. Give me about any starting junior guard in the last 10 years over blue next year.

I am suprised that Vander didn't develope any offensive game this year.  Just curious do any of you on here consider him a bust up to this point?

Goose

Vander Blue is a special talent. I am not saying this, every top basketball guy says this. He has NBA frame and outstanding rebounding and defensive skills. He makes plays that no one on the court can make in most games. No doubt he has a ton to improve on but anyone who does not think he goes to next level is mistaken in my opinion.

GGGG

Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 23, 2012, 08:34:48 AM
I'd rather Vander attack the rim and get stuffed than watch another contested three or long two.  One of the reasons, MU shot terribly was because they took a lot of bad shots last night.

Shot selection was poor at times.  Too many quick threes.  Didn't attack enough.


Quote from: Dreadman24 on March 23, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
I am suprised that Vander didn't develope any offensive game this year.  Just curious do any of you on here consider him a bust up to this point?

No because he is the best perimeter defender on the team.  He may not be living up to expectations, but "bust" is too strong a word.

hairy worthen

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 23, 2012, 08:26:45 AM
When a chorus of fans is shouting "DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!" when Vander is streaking down the court with the ball, you'd have to think the coaches are saying the same thing.  Not sure why they haven't beaten that out of him. 

Vander just does not have the software version necessary to place his body in the right spot, place the ball in the right place around the rim while defenders are on him.   

I remember people, myself included, saying the same thing about jer mcNeal his freshman and sophomore year. He was a loose cannon on his drives to the basket and an inconsistent jump shooter. Look what happened his junior and senior year. 28% from 3 his freshman year to 40% his senior year. Granted mcneal scored more than blue his first two years but he also was playing more out of necessity and had a different role on the team.

My point is give blue a break. He will improve and be a solid scorer the next couple of years. He does many other things very well.

BTW dimes I thought you were going to stay away if mu lost.

Stretchdeltsig

Vander cannot be considered a good basketball player until he learns how to make layups.  My wife screams every time he has the ball and drives towards the basket.  We have never seen a player who drives fairly well but for some reason or other cannot make layups!  

GGGG

Quote from: msbjim on March 23, 2012, 08:47:33 AM
Vander cannot be considered a good basketball player until he learns how to make layups.  My wife screams every time he has the ball and drives towards the basket.  We have never seen a player who drives fairly well but for some reason or other cannot make layups!   


Vander Blue is a good basketball player now.  He is an incredible rebounder for his size (lead the team last night in only 26 minutes), and the best perimeter defender on the team.  He is poor offensively, but basketball is more than offense.

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