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TJ

Quote from: mu03eng on March 27, 2012, 01:49:23 PM
I want to know who is floating the academics are an issue rumor?  I know for a fact the NCAA was in auditing MU's student athlete academic policy and support programs and they were recommended as a model for our universities.  So how is Buzz monkeying with academics?

If there is any truth to the friction I'm starting to really think this is the BOT and LW overreacting to the combination of off court issues, feeling Buzz is getting too big, and the issues popping up at UConn and Syracuse.  To me once again the BOT moves the wrong amount and in the wrong direction.

Just adding some rampant speculation to this otherwise sane thread
I think this is all a self fulling prophecy.  It was a nonissue until either Buzz or LW read starting reading this thread (they obviously couldn't have read all of it AND had time to have any heated discussions).

dw3dw3dw3

Why wouldn't Buzz use Illinois as leverage vs SMU, too close to home and could impact recruiting?  

mu03eng

The other question is how sustainable is this thread?  I would think if Buzz is going they'd announce today otherwise how long could this thread possibly go?  If Buzz stays do they say anything, are we watching for white smoke or something??

I'm both grateful and terrified that I'm flying out to Seattle tomorrow morning.  Grateful because I won't have to refresh my browser every 5 minutes for the 6 hours I'll be traveling, but terrified that something bad will drop while I'm airborne.....and you never want something bad dropping while flying.  :o
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

TJ

Quote from: mu03eng on March 27, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
The other question is how sustainable is this thread?  I would think if Buzz is going they'd announce today otherwise how long could this thread possibly go?  If Buzz stays do they say anything, are we watching for white smoke or something??

I'm both grateful and terrified that I'm flying out to Seattle tomorrow morning.  Grateful because I won't have to refresh my browser every 5 minutes for the 6 hours I'll be traveling, but terrified that something bad will drop while I'm airborne.....and you never want something bad dropping while flying.  :o
some airlines let you pay for wifi now.  Obviously you'll have to pony up.

hairy worthen

Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
some airlines let you pay for wifi now.  Obviously you'll have to pony up.

pun intended i presume

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
some airlines let you pay for wifi now.  Obviously you'll have to pony up.

Let's just hope Buzz doesn't "pony up".
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TJ

Less than 500 posts to go until we pass the baseball pissing match and make this ridiculous thing the longest thread in MUScoop history!

Warriors10

~500 posts away from top posted thread; not even a top 10 viewed thread yet.

Damn you Starr Jones and D-Wade rumors.

TJ

Quote from: hairyworthen on March 27, 2012, 01:59:04 PM
pun intended i presume
I almost added "(pun intended?)" to the end of the post.  Typed it and deleted it in fact.   ;D

brewcity'77

isn't it about time to change the title of this car wreck?

Skatastrophy

Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
Less than 500 posts to go until we pass the baseball pissing match and make this ridiculous thing the longest thread in MUScoop history!

You have to lock threads at around 100 pages and start a new one.  It's a limitation of SMF forums iirc.

Otherwise the baseball pissing match would be well past 100 pages by now.

mu03eng

Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 27, 2012, 01:53:20 PM
Why wouldn't Buzz use Illinois as leverage vs SMU, too close to home and could impact recruiting?  

Because Illinois wouldn't have the same leverage.  It sounds like MU is ok with Buzz leaving, and they can explain away Illinois as a better job(its not but they could rationalize it).  With SMU nobody can spin that for a sustained amount of time and have it believable.  So the leverage with SMU is it would be wildly embarassing to MU whereas Illinois not so much.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

mu03eng

Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
some airlines let you pay for wifi now.  Obviously you'll have to pony up.

Yeah I know, but I'd end up putting it on the corporate card and then doing very little corporate work :)
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

TJ

Quote from: Warriors10 on March 27, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
~500 posts away from top posted thread; not even a top 10 viewed thread yet.

Damn you Starr Jones and D-Wade rumors.
Actually the ratio of posts to views for this thread has been pretty amazing.

The Special Brew

Quote from: mu03eng on March 27, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
Because Illinois wouldn't have the same leverage.  It sounds like MU is ok with Buzz leaving, and they can explain away Illinois as a better job(its not but they could rationalize it).  With SMU nobody can spin that for a sustained amount of time and have it believable.  So the leverage with SMU is it would be wildly embarassing to MU whereas Illinois not so much.

I ask this honestly, but why is it embarrassing to us? Our coach leaves for a huge payday at a terrible basketball school, which happens to be close to home. If you want to bring up issues within the BOT and AD, fine, but I still fail to understand how Marquette ends up looking silly.

If he leaves, he leaves. Nuff said, let's find a new coach.


TJ

Quote from: mu03eng on March 27, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Yeah I know, but I'd end up putting it on the corporate card and then doing very little corporate work :)
I'm being paid for being at work today and doing very little work.   ;D

mr.MUskie

Quote from: mu03eng on March 27, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Yeah I know, but I'd end up putting it on the corporate card and then doing very little corporate work :)


It's the American Way.

BrewCity83

Actually, if Buzz left for SMU then MU could say "we did everything we could to keep him, but he wanted to go home...and we weren't matching $6 million." and most people would accept that.
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Bocephys

Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 27, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
Actually, if Buzz left for SMU then MU could say "we did everything we could to keep him, but he wanted to go home...and we weren't matching $6 million." and most people would accept that.

Unless things start leaking that the BOT was actually happy this offer came because it gave them an easy out.

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mu03eng

Quote from: The Special Brew on March 27, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
I ask this honestly, but why is it embarrassing to us? Our coach leaves for a huge payday at a terrible basketball school, which happens to be close to home. If you want to bring up issues within the BOT and AD, fine, but I still fail to understand how Marquette ends up looking silly.

If he leaves, he leaves. Nuff said, let's find a new coach.



Its embarrassing because the media will dig.  We saw it like 653 pages ago that someone posted that Seth Davis tweeted he'd be shocked if Buzz left for SMU.  If Buzz leaves, people like Seth are going to dig and the BOT, AD, and Prez won't be able to control everything that comes out and if they pushed out a coach that got to back to back sweet 16s and on the surface said all the right things they are going to lose that PR fight.  And lets face it, when its comes to PR and handling delicate situations the BOT is about as handy as a one legged man in ass kicking contest.

I'm not saying this is a great strategy for Buzz, but if he's truly unhappy with the admins this is his only play.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

mu03eng

Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 27, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
Actually, if Buzz left for SMU then MU could say "we did everything we could to keep him, but he wanted to go home...and we weren't matching $6 million." and most people would accept that.

This assumes Buzz and/or his mouthpieces don't let the cat out of the bag.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Dreadman24

Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 27, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
Actually, if Buzz left for SMU then MU could say "we did everything we could to keep him, but he wanted to go home...and we weren't matching $6 million." and most people would accept that.

Coach K isnt even worth 6 MIL! lol

PonyFanz

Quote from: Dreadman24 on March 27, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
Coach K isnt even worth 6 MIL! lol

If you have been stuck dating the ugly girls with bad skin, the above-average girl looks mighty good.

TJ

Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 27, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
Actually, if Buzz left for SMU then MU could say "we did everything we could to keep him, but he wanted to go home...and we weren't matching $6 million." and most people would accept that.
I think the $6M number was completely unsubstantiated.  Someone threw it out there without intending it to be taken as factual and a few people (myself included) misunderstood and posted about it.  Then it magically became true.

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