The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[GGGG]

Huh?  Never said that.  If JUCOs want to come to Marquette that's great.  Marquette won't deny their admission because they went to a JUCO.  That doesn't mean Buzz is forced to recruit JUCOs.  Pillarz and Williams could tell Buzz they only want him recruiting 4 year high school players.  If JUCOs want to apply for admission at Marquette and pay their own way, great.

Should people start throwing around lawsuits to any and all Division 1 sports programs that do not have JUCOs on their rosters?  These coaches can recruit whoever they want to.  If they choose not to recruit JUCOs for whatever reason, then they don't recruit JUCOs.  File lawsuits for that?  Good luck.

Seriously where are you getting this?  No one has told Buzz not to recruit JUCOs.

[Tugg Speedman]

Has this thread passed the baseball pissing match yet?

[mr.MUskie]

Seriously where are you getting this?  No one has told Buzz not to recruit JUCOs.

It was suggested that this might be one of the restrictions being placed on Buzz if he is to continue as coach at MU.

[Lighthouse 84]

I have a family at home and a business to run at work. And I can't stop reading this thread.

It really is like a car wreck on the side of the road. I can't look away even though I know this is much ado about nothing.

The whole thing with SMU is the classic butterfly that flapped its wings in Indonesia and caused a ripple that led to an epic thread on MUScoop.com.  

I'm right there with you AC.

[wadesworld]

Seriously where are you getting this?  No one has told Buzz not to recruit JUCOs.

I'm not saying they did.  Somebody else brought it up 10-15 pages ago and somebody said there would be lawsuits if Buzz was told not to recruit JUCOs.

For the record, I have absolutely no problem with JUCOs and have loved literally every single one Buzz has brought in.  I hope he continues to get the top JUCOs in the country.  They have been invaluable to the program.  But to think that there would be lawsuits filed if Pillarz and Williams told Buzz he can't bring anymore in is flat out wrong.  Buzz can recruit whoever he wants whenever he wants to, and if his bosses tell him to stop recruiting JUCOs or he is gone, he will be done recruiting JUCOs, no lawsuits or anything.  Otherwise, could I file a lawsuit against Pillarz and LW for having no white players on scholarship next year?  I mean, he must have been told not to recruit white players if that's the case, right?  So we are denying admission to somebody based on their race.  Let's file a lawsuit.  (For those who can't pick up on the sarcasm...)

[MerrittsMustache]

It was suggested completely made up by posters that this might be one of the restrictions being placed on Buzz if he is to continue as coach at MU.

[AZWarrior]

It was suggested that this might be one of the restrictions being placed on Buzz if he is to continue as coach at MU.

...wouldn't seem very "Christian".

[madtownwarrior]

I would like the BOT / Pilarz and Williams tell Buzz he can not recruit Jucos with Crowder and Butler standing at his side...

It was suggested that this might be one of the restrictions being placed on Buzz if he is to continue as coach at MU.

[real chili 83]

Just taking a mid day break and popping in on the board.

Looks like nothing is new.  Correct?

[Skatastrophy]

Just taking a mid day break and popping in on the board.

Looks like nothing is new.  Correct?

Yep.

[GGGG]

It was suggested that this might be one of the restrictions being placed on Buzz if he is to continue as coach at MU.

It's not.  Buzz has moved away from JUCOs because he has said from the beginning it was preferable to fill the roster with four year players, but had to do it to fill holes.  TJ Taylor is literally a JUCO, but he is much more like a transfer since he started at Oklahoma.  

Guys, the major issues are the off-court stuff by both Buzz and the players.  (And I am not talking about the Country Roads dancing.)  There are things that Buzz has done that haven't made people happy.  The current administration is tightening things up in that regard.  Read between the lines what IWB posted on Sunday, about relationships.  It isn't simply that the relationships have changed...relationships change all of the time.  It's about the consequences of those changed relationships. 

[AhoyaX]

I heard that if we hit 100 pages, everyone gets free tacos.

C'mon Nelligan, make it happen!!

[mr.MUskie]

I'm not saying they did.  Somebody else brought it up 10-15 pages ago and somebody said there would be lawsuits if Buzz was told not to recruit JUCOs.

For the record, I have absolutely no problem with JUCOs and have loved literally every single one Buzz has brought in.  I hope he continues to get the top JUCOs in the country.  They have been invaluable to the program.  But to think that there would be lawsuits filed if Pillarz and Williams told Buzz he can't bring anymore in is flat out wrong.  Buzz can recruit whoever he wants whenever he wants to, and if his bosses tell him to stop recruiting JUCOs or he is gone, he will be done recruiting JUCOs, no lawsuits or anything.  Otherwise, could I file a lawsuit against Pillarz and LW for having no white players on scholarship next year?  I mean, he must have been told not to recruit white players if that's the case, right?  So we are denying admission to somebody based on their race.  Let's file a lawsuit.  (For those who can't pick up on the sarcasm...)

"Little People".  We don't have any of those on the team either!  Albinos!  Aborigines!  Don't we have any ambulance chasers on this thread?

[BrewCity83]

Based on the posting activity in the past 3 hours, we should hit 100 pages right around 9:00 tonight.

[Lennys Tap]

Howie saying everything we all already know, in a more composed way.

http://www.insidemilwaukee.com/Article/3272012-BuzzMarquetteandtheFuture

As the author puts it, it's all about loyalty and trust for Buzz. He didn't get it at New Orleans and he left, even though some warned him it was professional suicide. He had it at MU. Not so much anymore, and unless Pilarz and L Williams can undo some of that damage he won't worry about taking a step back (SMU) again. It will be hard to leave his players, but if the powers that be force his hand...I worry.

[dw3dw3dw3]

It's not.  Buzz has moved away from JUCOs because he has said from the beginning it was preferable to fill the roster with four year players, but had to do it to fill holes.  TJ Taylor is literally a JUCO, but he is much more like a transfer since he started at Oklahoma.  

I think I said that in speculation about 15 pages ago, pretty sure I was clear I was speculating what could be going on for the sake of keeping the thread alive.

However, you are very definitive in your answer... care to elaborate what some of the stipulations are?

[Big Daddy 84]

I am going to write this one email and that is it.

1) Buzz is not leaving for SMU or any other school.
2) Buzz wants Tony B to get the job at SMU.
3) Fr. P and Larry Williams know what Buzz means to MU and support him.
4) Fr. P, LW, BOT and Buzz all agree on the standards that are expected from all MU athletes. Buzz's standards are not any different than they have been.
5) Knock of the JUCO bashing it is sickening...fostering a false negative preception of these players is plain wrong.  Yeah Buzz has been told don't ever recruit another JFB or Jae Crowder..those type of kids don't belong at MU....   That makes alot of sense.

My recommendation..everyone log off for a week..

[🏀]

TWITTTTA TRACCCCKA!!!

Junior Cadougan ‏ @JRwontLOSE
Just got done wrking out ... Bout to go eat a healthy dinner before study hall #yaga

[Les Nessman]

I am going to write this one email and that is it.

1) Buzz is not leaving for SMU or any other school.
2) Buzz wants Tony B to get the job at SMU.
3) Fr. P and Larry Williams know what Buzz means to MU and support him.
4) Fr. P, LW, BOT and Buzz all agree on the standards that are expected from all MU athletes. Buzz's standards are not any different than they have been.
5) Knock of the JUCO bashing it is sickening...fostering a false negative preception of these players is plain wrong.  Yeah Buzz has been told don't ever recruit another JFB or Jae Crowder..those type of kids don't belong at MU....   That makes alot of sense.

My recommendation..everyone log off for a week..

Thank you. I trust your posts more than anyone else on this board and it is good to finally hear from you.

[damuts222]

Heard that SMU offered Buzz Williams $3 million/year and a $3 million buyout, but that he is unlikely to accept. Good info. No one reported the buyout info.....
Per SMU Scout board which you need a subscription to get the rest. Google searched Buzz williams news in the past 24 hours.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I am going to write this one email and that is it.

1) Buzz is not leaving for SMU or any other school.
2) Buzz wants Tony B to get the job at SMU.
3) Fr. P and Larry Williams know what Buzz means to MU and support him.
4) Fr. P, LW, BOT and Buzz all agree on the standards that are expected from all MU athletes. Buzz's standards are not any different than they have been.
5) Knock of the JUCO bashing it is sickening...fostering a false negative preception of these players is plain wrong.  Yeah Buzz has been told don't ever recruit another JFB or Jae Crowder..those type of kids don't belong at MU....   That makes alot of sense.

My recommendation..everyone log off for a week..

Oh dear God, I hope you are right.

[Pakuni]

A healthy dinner?
There are no healthy dinners in Milwaukee. Junior's already at SMU!

[brewcity'77]

sorry, just trying to keep up, if sarcasm is TEAL wtf does RED imply?

[PickNRoll]

Thank you, BigDaddy84.  You haven't lead us astray yet.

[BrewCity83]

A healthy dinner?
There are no healthy dinners in Milwaukee. Junior's already at SMU!

There's the "Big Daddy" at Subway.  Or is it at Cousins?  The Big Daddy has gotta be healthy with a name like that, right?