Was Buzz calling out MUScoop specifically

[NotAnAlum]

In his post game comments about "Needing a new point guard".  I mean I can't beleive anyone in the NCAA press room had written anything ripping Junior.  DJO's comment about Junior proving he is a "premier point" was also a direct counter to some of the comments posted here.  I was in NYC and kind of winced when I read some of the comments on the "Point Guard" thread the next day.  All of this being said I don't want a board where everything posted must be only positive.  Maybe we've been spoiled by having too many GREAT point guards but there are some weaknesses in Junior's game.  Put Travis D or Dominic on this team and they are certainly better and the same could be said if we lifted a number of the PGs playing in the tournement.
I know I as a MU fan read the criticism and sometimes even offer some because I care SO MUCH probably too much.  But when the game starts I'm 100% behind the team on the court.
I'm not sure what the answer is.  I wish the players didn't read this board or if they did they didn't take what was said here personally.  I don't think its good for Buzz to read the board.  Its like Wikileaks, a lot of stuff is said or written that should not be passed back to the subject.

[steff_mckee]

Wikileaks?

[ATWizJr]

There's a difference between respectful analysis and over the top, over blown, no holds barred blasting of a 20 something kid especially since it is OUR own player.

[Silkk the Shaka]

There's a difference between respectful analysis and over the top, over blown, no holds barred blasting of a 20 something kid especially since it is OUR own player.

Precisely

[tower912]

We all get to hide behind our internet names.   Many say things here they would never say if there was a scintilla of accountability.    I've coached enough to know that it is bad enough to have snarky parents kvetching because you didn't bat junior in the right place, play them enough, run enough plays for them.    It is a pain in the abe.  This is the same crap, just exponentially more AND more concentrated.    I've had meetings face to face with parents and discussed their issue.    Buzz can't do that with all of us.    What he can do is defend his team, defend his player, defend himself by castigating those who anonymously slag kids.   Just as it is our right to have an opinion and post it, it is his right to call it crap.   I'm glad he did.  

[JD]

There's a difference between respectful analysis and over the top, over blown, no holds barred blasting of a 20 something kid especially since it is OUR own player.

Tell me one fan base that doesn't.

[Goose]

There is nothing I say on here that I would not openly say in public.

[79Warrior]

I understand what you are saying, but show me any fan site, college or pro,  that is not bi-polar. Shoot, Duke had to shut theirs down after the loss last week.

No coach or player should take anything serious on these sites. Its the rants and opinions of such a tiny segment of the fan base of any team. Focus on the task at hand. Fans will be fans, its all what have you done lately.

[tower912]

Tell me one fan base that doesn't.

"Everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't I?"     That's crap, as every mom has told every teenager since the beginning of time.   You are a MU student.   Prove it actually means something.  

[jficke13]

I think people here go out of their way to B and moan about things from time to time. See: new point guard thread, or Buzz to X school threads. Hopefully this venting prevents people from punching their tvs or something, but I can't see the point behind dragging our players/coaches/etc through a field of broken glass because of a turnover/postgame comment/whatever.

[Goose]

Personally I try and give credit when due and comment on if something is wrong. My overall feel on the players is to be softer than coaches or admin of school. Often I try and throw an attempt at humor is singling out a kid and not say so and so sucks. That said, these kids are going to school for free and are in different world. Other than a few stupid posts I did not see big problem on bashing the goods on here.

[ATWizJr]

Tell me one fan base that doesn't.

Still doesn't make it right or acceptable to publicly bash our own players.  And it's not smart, either.  It's obvious that players and coaching staff take the personal attacks as just that.  I actually would prefer that they do punch their tv's rather than whip our players.

[LON]

"Everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't I?"     That's crap, as every mom has told every teenager since the beginning of time.   You are a MU student.   Prove it actually means something.  

This.

[jficke13]

We all get to hide behind our internet names.   Many say things here they would never say if there was a scintilla of accountability.    

This too. Make people change their handles to their first and last name and maybe some of the insane posts would dry up. (note mods: not an actual suggestion)

[MU82]

Big difference between sometimes criticizing a guy's play and completely denigrating a player. Some have gone way over the top on a few guys, especially Junior and Vander.

That being said, I echo those who wonder why Buzz and the gang would take one word posted here seriously. We shouldn't be taken any more seriously than some guy in the 400 level screaming: "XXXXx (fill in the name), you suck!"

[ATWizJr]

Big difference between sometimes criticizing a guy's play and completely denigrating a player. Some have gone way over the top on a few guys, especially Junior and Vander.

That being said, I echo those who wonder why Buzz and the gang would take one word posted here seriously. We shouldn't be taken any more seriously than some guy in the 400 level screaming: "XXXXx (fill in the name), you suck!"

Maybe we shouldn't be taken any more seriously, but it's obvious that we are.

[mu_hilltopper]

It certainly irritates me when extreme positions are given the weight of any majority.  The PG thread is a good example .. one guy (joined partially by some supporters) is roundly shouted down by the other 95%.   If Buzz was talking about that thread in his presser (somewhat likely,) he was focusing on the wrong group of people: The unhappy minority.

I'd rather, he "should" use threads like that as private motivators, not as scolding points to the media or public -- as if to say it was indeed the will of the people to throw Junior under the bus after the BET.  It was not.

As I wrote in the thread, it pains me to play a party to hosting those minority opinions, then have them used to paint an entire online community.  The only escape there is a Big Brother approach, and we'd far prefer the guy in the bar spouting his opinion get shouted down by the regulars .. let the battle of opinions prevail.

The downside of that battle is .. those minority opinions can be used in a negative way, beyond the confines.

You are a MU student.   Prove it actually means something.  

+1

[jficke13]

  Maybe we shouldn't be taken any more seriously, but it's obvious that we are.

and because we are maybe we should think twice before saying extreme things.

[muwarrior69]

These guys are just not his "players". They are "family". Buzz just lets his fatherly instincts take over now and then. If he kept it all in he would not be the person he is.  Quite frankly I am glad he lets it out.

[ErickJD08]

I'll say this once and a bunch more times.  Players should not be taking this board seriously and this board is pretty tame.  There are other team boards that get WAY MORE fired up and vulgar.  

Players and staff need to understand that fans get so emotional involved with the team that most of them are getting hammered during the game and spew trash after a bad peformace.  Furthermore, don't think for one second trolls are not stirring the pot.  Once again, DO NOT TAKE THIS BOARD SERIOUSLY.  There are trolls, drunk emotional fans that need a life, and quite frankly, this board represents about 10% of the fan base.  I have never met one MU alum that does not support the team and the coach.  The idiots tend to be the loudest ones.

[brewcity77]

You are a MU student. Prove it actually means something.

+2

I believe that Cura Personalis matters, and if you listen to Buzz, I think it's pretty evident he does too.

[JD]

Big difference between sometimes criticizing a guy's play and completely denigrating a player. Some have gone way over the top on a few guys, especially Junior and Vander.

That being said, I echo those who wonder why Buzz and the gang would take one word posted here seriously. We shouldn't be taken any more seriously than some guy in the 400 level screaming: "XXXXx (fill in the name), you suck!"

+ a billion

[MU82]

Coaches and athletes do this stuff all the time. Us against the world. Let's prove the naysayers wrong, yada yada yada.

Michael Jordan constantly talked about being motivated by the "doubters," even though 99.9999 percent of fans, his peers and everybody else on the planet knew he was the best player in the world.

I don't take it personally, that's for sure. If it helps MU have even one successful possession, I welcome Buzz to keep using "haters" on this board to motivate his troops. Hell, he can dig up a post I wrote some time back about DJO probably not being good enough for the NBA if that'll help DJO hit the game-winner Thursday!

[ATWizJr]

I'll say this once and a bunch more times.  Players should not be taking this board seriously and this board is pretty tame.  There are other team boards that get WAY MORE fired up and vulgar.  

Players and staff need to understand that fans get so emotional involved with the team that most of them are getting hammered during the game and spew trash after a bad peformace.  Furthermore, don't think for one second trolls are not stirring the pot.  Once again, DO NOT TAKE THIS BOARD SERIOUSLY.  There are trolls, drunk emotional fans that need a life, and quite frankly, this board represents about 10% of the fan base.  I have never met one MU alum that does not support the team and the coach.  The idiots tend to be the loudest ones.

I agree that the vast amount of MU alums and fans support the team and the coach.  However, they are the way too silent majority.  The opinions that get noticed are too often the loutish, loudest, idiotic ones that are posted in public.  And players and coaches will read and take to heart the opinions they see, even if you order them to "NOT TAKE THIS BOARD SERIOUSLY."  So it would we helpful to all if the diatribes were dialed down in favor of a more civil discourse whether in praise or criticism of the program and players.

[Warrior1]

MUCH more likely Buzz was calling out Twitter than MUScoop. The players are very active on Twitter, and there are typically thousands of posts a game.