Duane Wilson deciding next week...

[Real Chilly Podcast]

A 6th year senior center with CO's defense and length would be invaluable. I think that along with a senior Gardner we would likely have the best 5 position in the conference, and barring Nerlens Noel type one-and-dones, the country. I know I'm a big CO fan, but I look at 2013-14 with those two, a senior Blue and Jamil, and a wealth of talent in Juan, Todd, Taylor & Taylor, and Burton and I see a NC contender. I hope we get every possible minute out of CO.

I never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here.  Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Just to make my position clear, if Wilson does commit tomorrow, I have the utmost belief that Buzz has done all his homework and knows something about the class of 2013 that we don't. As state above, it could be any number of things (qualification issues, desire to get more PT at a lower school, family issues, etc). Buzz seems to have a real strong relationship with this current group and I am sure that he isn't forcing people out or doing anything shady. I am just curious as who it is that will be gone as I am stoked for the future of our program and want to speculate about what the 2013 team will look like.

The take away should be that MU is on the rise, consistently bringing in top 15 classes, and the days of having 8 or 9 scholarship players are now behind us. Just think about this potential line-up for 2013:

C: Gardner (hopefully Otule as well)
F: Jamil
F: Steve Taylor
G: Blue
G: Mayo
Bench: Burton, the Wilsons, TJ Taylor, Juan, and Ferguson (and Nunn).

This should be the first of many late runs in March...

[Goose]

Burton starts from day one. He is in a special class of player and highly doubt he ever will be anything other than a starter at MU.

[BCHoopster]

So you already cut Durley and Jamil???

[BCHoopster]

Burton starts from day one. He is in a special class of player and highly doubt he ever will be anything other than a starter at MU.

I missed something when I watched him on TV, long way away from being a 4 year starter, he is a scorer but not a shooter.  He will get his minutes but I think with majority of the players
back, he will only see 15-18 minutes.

[GGGG]

I never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here.  Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13

I completely disagree with that.  CO knows the program...knows what is about...he is one of Buzz's guys.  If healthy, CO will be on the roster.

On the other hand, we have other players on the roster who have received very little playing time.  We also have four incoming players, three of which have yet to qualify academically and whom have never lived away from home.  To me, those are more precarious than CO is.

[jficke13]

So is everyone completely confident that Otule will be given a 6th year (not will be kept around by MU for a 6th year, but allowed to play a 6th year by whatever body makes those kinds of eligibility decisions)?

[Ellenson Guerrero]

So you already cut Durley and Jamil???

Contrary to popular belief, I do not in fact have the authority to cut players. I was merely positing what a great lineup that would be, and I'm not quite as excited about the prospects for those two going forward. I have no insider information and am just thinking aloud.

[BCHoopster]

I completely disagree with that.  CO knows the program...knows what is about...he is one of Buzz's guys.  If healthy, CO will be on the roster.

On the other hand, we have other players on the roster who have received very little playing time.  We also have four incoming players, three of which have yet to qualify academically and whom have never lived away from home.  To me, those are more precarious than CO is.

I agree with you there, and add Burton as the 5th who probably has never taken the test.  A lot can happen.  commitment from Wilson does not mean he is coming either.  Two years from
now, and do not expect Buzz to  stop there.

[GGGG]

So is everyone completely confident that Otule will be given a 6th year (not will be kept around by MU for a 6th year, but allowed to play a 6th year by whatever body makes those kinds of eligibility decisions)?

Yes.  He meets all of the requirements.  I think the BE grants it to him.

[jficke13]

Okay, I know we are kinda assuming it will happen, but I just don't know the criteria personally, so I'm kinda just taking everyone's word for it, and didn't want to get ahead of ourselves unless it was reasonably likely to happen.

[brewcity77]

I never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here.  Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13

If Chris is healthy and eligible, I feel 100% confident he will be on our roster in 2013. I don't think Buzz would give his scholarship to anybody else no matter who it was.

[MU82]

If Chris is healthy and eligible, I feel 100% confident he will be on our roster in 2013. I don't think Buzz would give his scholarship to anybody else no matter who it was.

Continue to agree with pretty much everything brewcity has said about Otule all season, including now.

Quite sure he will be granted a sixth year of eligibility. There are numerous precedents, including Northwestern's Evan Eschmeyer (right off top of my head).

If he's healthy and eligible and if he wants to earn his master's for free, Otule absolutely should be welcomed back by one and all. Not only a classy guy but an extremely valuable player who changes our defensive dynamic.

[dw3dw3dw3]

fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...

ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.

"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."

[jesmu84]

fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...

ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.

"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."

i love when people say cryptic "insider" phrases that have no sources or facts.

[MerrittsMustache]

fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...

ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.

"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."

Who is ddsam7?

[GGGG]

Who is ddsam7?

Someone who has posted recruiting-type stuff on the Insiders board previously.  The comment that is interesting is "lots of stuff going on."  I wonder what that means...Nunn or Wilson???  Hmmm....

BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish. 

[jesmu84]

BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish. 

I think that's certainly becoming a trend in the Twitter-journalism, "breaking-news-first" world

[jficke13]

really, reporters write stuff without sources? noooooooo!

[GGGG]

I don't think he was writing stuff without sources.  He sounds like he spoke with Mark Miller.  Now he could have misinterpreted something Mark said, or Mark may have had bad information, .... or he might be right.

[bilsu]

I have not seen either player play and would have no idea who is better. I suspect we would only be able to take one of two. That is when you put the pressure on by saying you will take the first one to commit. Otherwise, why should a player commit early. Also, I do not care if a scholarship is available now, because the player that commits now has ample opportunity to change his mind. Nothing matters until the player actually signs.

[Blackhat]

What have I missed fellas??

Sounds like we've got a Lance Allen vs ddsam cage match going on.


Two men enter, one man leave.

[MUfan12]

fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...

ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.

"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."

Not a subscriber over there, but have heard nothing but good things about ddsam's info from people who read the premium board.

Not sure what that comment means, but FWIW everything I have heard has been Wilson to MU. I guess we'll see though.

[jficke13]

wasn't 'the decision' going down at 3? any word?

[brewcity77]

wasn't 'the decision' going down at 3? any word?

3 on Tuesday.