Duane Wilson deciding next week...

[dw3dw3dw3]

Per twitter via MarquetteHoops.
2013 #mubb target Duane Wilson RT @_IGotTheJuice1: Next week I will be making a decision on what college ima commit too. #IGotTheJuice

Well since he would cause quite a distraction for what scholarship he is taking while the team is preparing for Mizzou, I don't expect it to be MU unfortunately. Tough player, would have loved him at MU for 4 years.

Anybody got any other leaders? Per Scout his offer list is - Iowa, MU, Memphis, Mizzou, Virginia Tech.

I just saw on google that Wilson mentioned in an article that Burton was going to join Playground Elite for this year, not sure that means much, but at least they have a relationship.

[nyg]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Duane-Wilson-106188

Here's the Rivals writeup

[GGGG]

Per twitter via MarquetteHoops.
2013 #mubb target Duane Wilson RT @_IGotTheJuice1: Next week I will be making a decision on what college ima commit too. #IGotTheJuice

Well since he would cause quite a distraction for what scholarship he is taking while the team is preparing for Mizzou, I don't expect it to be MU unfortunately. Tough player, would have loved him at MU for 4 years.

I don't think you would necessarily have to jump to that conclusion.  But I am not sure how solid our offer was at this point anyway. 

[Ellenson Guerrero]

The kid is a solid guard, but without room for 2013 and Buzz having higher priorities, it just wasn't going to happen. I'm disappointed solely for the fact that he could have helped us land Stone.

[attackelite]

It's Marquette or Memphis

[Boone]

I disagree, AWegrzyn17. We have no higher priority than a point guard for the next scholarship; if he wants to commit, we'll make room for him.

[Lighthouse 84]

I'd rather hold out for Kendrick Nunn...

[dw3dw3dw3]

I'd rather hold out for Kendrick Nunn...

I don't think Nunn is coming (purely speculative), he got offered by Texas and Kansas (i think).  Hard to say no to that to begin with, and he seems like a kid who loves the bright lights and attention that a Kansas or Texas could bring. Mizzou, Memphis, AZ are also in the mix for him. MU being the closest and Buzz's ties with Simeon/Taylor are our advantages, but I don't see that winning out in this case. Just my opinion though which is basically worthless.

[drbeauch]

Why would any of you automatically assume that MU is not in the running? Let's see - he's made a recent unofficial visit to MU, has attended numerous games, his cousin is Jamil Wilson, he's good friends with Deonte Burton, and he plays a position of need (point guard) - it's between MU, Memphis, and Missouri - I have absolutely no idea where he ends up but would frankly be surprised if it is not Marquette - as far as available scholarships, it will work itself out. And it will work itself out for Nunn as well....

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I just don't think the timing makes any sense from a MU perspective. If Duane decided he wanted to come to MU I assume he makes that known to Buzz before the public and I'm guessing they would ask him to keep it under wraps at least until the tournament is over. The last thing Buzz needs is guys looking over their shoulder in the locker room wondering if their sneakers have been Fed Exed to Southern Miss. I guess the team could know of some circumstance where a current player or incoming recruit won't be here in 2013, but I would imagine otherwise that would be a pretty ominous cloud over the team and a distraction for a promising tourney.

I disagree, AWegrzyn17. We have no higher priority than a point guard for the next scholarship; if he wants to commit, we'll make room for him.

I agree that our highest priority is a true point guard (although given Durley's question marks and Otule's injury history that is somewhat questionable). I just don't see us running guys out of town for him. He looks like a solid high school PG, but I don't think he is the type of elite guy that you "make room for." This isn't a guy who is 6'7 and a freak athlete like Jamil. While it is a guard's game, there are only so many 6'7+ guys walking around and you have to grab them when you can (even if it means "making room" on your roster). With PGs I think the name of the game is a little different.

[nyg]

I just don't think the timing makes any sense from a MU perspective. If Duane decided he wanted to come to MU I assume he makes that known to Buzz before the public and I'm guessing they would ask him to keep it under wraps at least until the tournament is over. The last thing Buzz needs is guys looking over their shoulder in the locker room wondering if their sneakers have been Fed Exed to Southern Miss. I guess the team could know of some circumstance where a current player or incoming recruit won't be here in 2013, but I would imagine otherwise that would be a pretty ominous cloud over the team and a distraction for a promising tourney.

I agree that our highest priority is a true point guard (although given Durley's question marks and Otule's injury history that is somewhat questionable). I just don't see us running guys out of town for him. He looks like a solid high school PG, but I don't think he is the type of elite guy that you "make room for." This isn't a guy who is 6'7 and a freak athlete like Jamil. While it is a guard's game, there are only so many 6'7+ guys walking around and you have to grab them when you can (even if it means "making room" on your roster). With PGs I think the name of the game is a little different.

Right now, the name of the PG game for when Junior leaves is Derrick Wilson.  Is MU comfortable with him as the PG?

[chapman]

He's a 2013 prospect.  Don't see what the distraction would be - the guys can't be that naive to believe there won't be at least two players among the current team and 2012 signed recruits who aren't here for the 2013 season.

[wadesworld]

And we will be lucky to see Mayo NEXT year.  If we get to see that, then we certainly won't for 2013.  Don't forget, he's 21 right now.  No way he sticks around for 2 more years.  That clears up 1 spot...

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Right now, the name of the PG game for when Junior leaves is Derrick Wilson.  Is MU comfortable with him as the PG?

Ya, I bet that TJ Taylor kid sucks. And Wilson will probably be incompetent two years from now even though he's been solid as a frosh. And Todd Mayo can't run the point at all.

I'm more comfortable with that situation than I am with getting a reputation for not keeping your word to kids. I don't think that goes well with Buzz's whole "We're gonna take care of your son and develop him as a man" mantra in the living room.

[dwaderoy2004]

Ya, I bet that TJ Taylor kid sucks. And Wilson will probably be incompetent two years from now even though he's been solid as a frosh. And Todd Mayo can't run the point at all.

Despite all of your sarcasm, you still only listed one true point guard.  I'm not comfortable with that.

[dw3dw3dw3]

I think Duane is the type of point guard you can build around. His athleticism is going to be way above average for a point. Not DJ level, but still very high (way higher than JC at the same point in their careers).  

Agree timing doesn't make sense though for a commit in the middle of NCAA unless the team was out of it. According to this (http://verbalcommits.com/schools/152) Memphis has 4 scholarships open for 2013 and are recruiting a bunch of point guards for that class.

Memphis announcing it is joining the Big East (1-3 return trips to Chicago/Milwaukee/SouthBend every year), and his past quote of wanting to get away, make it seem like they would be a front runner.

[Boone]

If we were to accept a commitment from Wilson or anyone else in the next few days, I highly doubt it would be a distraction to the team (if a player on the current roster is transferring to make room, then it's probably common knowledge in their inner circle). Now, if the vacancy comes from putting off Durley for another year or more, then that's another story (see Newbill's recruitment), but that still wouldn't distract the current team whatsoever.

[mufansince72]

The problem with the OP's theory is that all three of the schools mentioned are in the NCAA Tournament.  The kid probably is mentioning next week as announcement time as he will be done with his season as the state tournament starts tomorrow. 

[MUMac]

I think it is dangerous to throw around phrases like MU not keeping their word.  That is quite an accussation without ANY facts to support.

Now, here is a suppossition.  Let's assume CO does not get the 6th year approved by the NCAA.  What does MU do at that time?  Far too late to get someone, especially as talented as Wilson.

OR, let's assume that CO does receive his 6th year from the NCAA.  I would guess he would already have graduated.  So, who is to say he does not use the transfer rule and play at a school closer to Houston?

I am not suggesting either of these are in play.  They are, though, possibilities.  Other possibilities - someone does not make it to MU due to grades or change of heart.  Someone transfers out.  Someone blows up and decides to go pro early.

Buzz may or may not know any of these right now.  He still, though, needs to continue to recruit.  A verbal commitment is as binding as if I gave one.  

Before we throw MU under the bus, if DW commits here, let's at least wait for the facts to surface.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

If we were to accept a commitment from Wilson or anyone else in the next few days, I highly doubt it would be a distraction to the team (if a player on the current roster is transferring to make room, then it's probably common knowledge in their inner circle). Now, if the vacancy comes from putting off Durley for another year or more, then that's another story (see Newbill's recruitment), but that still wouldn't distract the current team whatsoever.

I agree that if there is an announcement that Duane is coming to MU, then it probably means that that the guys already knew someone was planning on leaving or that there was an issue with one of the incoming recruits. But in trying to predict what Wilson is likely to do without that information available to us, its safer to assume the guys don't already know that.  

And if right before your busiest time of the year at work a new guy came in and said that he was set to take a position of a nameless employee that wouldn't cause a bit of a stir?

[Silkk the Shaka]

So many possibilities before 2013 recruits hit campus, one of which not being mentioned is Jamil Wilson going pro after next year.  I think he busts out in a prominent role next year and makes the leap.  If you're Buzz why wouldn't you recruit with contingencies like that (and many many others already mentioned here) in mind?  The sinister outcome is not nearly the most likely with a commitment from the 2013 class.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I think it is dangerous to throw around phrases like MU not keeping their word.  That is quite an accussation without ANY facts to support.

Now, here is a suppossition.  Let's assume CO does not get the 6th year approved by the NCAA.  What does MU do at that time?  Far too late to get someone, especially as talented as Wilson.

OR, let's assume that CO does receive his 6th year from the NCAA.  I would guess he would already have graduated.  So, who is to say he does not use the transfer rule and play at a school closer to Houston?

I am not suggesting either of these are in play.  They are, though, possibilities.  Other possibilities - someone does not make it to MU due to grades or change of heart.  Someone transfers out.  Someone blows up and decides to go pro early.

Buzz may or may not know any of these right now.  He still, though, needs to continue to recruit.  A verbal commitment is as binding as if I gave one.  

Before we throw MU under the bus, if DW commits here, let's at least wait for the facts to surface.

MUMac, I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that MU has done anything at all wrong at this point. Buzz certainly should still be recruiting for the class of 2013. Certainly players leave all the time and Buzz needs to be prepared for changes that are difficult to predict (see Maymon's transfer). But being prepared for the unexpected is different than overrecruiting for a class over a year and a half in advance. I don't think it makes sense for Buzz to be accepting commitments when he has been public about expecting Otule to receive his sixth year approval (and thus that he has a full class for 2013). Its not going to be too late if we find out next fall or even this time next spring that we have an open scholarship because of a player's decision to transfer or Otule not getting a redshirt. We have had success with commitments from seniors and JuCos in the past.

What I am trying to do is make a prediction about what Duane's decision will be. If he is announcing at this time, I don't think Buzz and the staff would look favorably upon that given our current scholarship situation, thus if he says he is announcing then that leaves me to believe it is for some place else. That is all I am saying; Buzz is likely to wait for the season to end or for enough information to be had for the guys to be clear that they aren't going to be asked to leave town.

[MUMac]

MUMac, I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that MU has done anything at all wrong at this point. Buzz certainly should still be recruiting for the class of 2013. Certainly players leave all the time and Buzz needs to be prepared for changes that are difficult to predict (see Maymon's transfer). But being prepared for the unexpected is different than overrecruiting for a class over a year and a half in advance. I don't think it makes sense for Buzz to be accepting commitments when he has been public about expecting Otule to receive his sixth year approval (and thus that he has a full class for 2013). Its not going to be too late if we find out next fall or even this time next spring that we have an open scholarship because of a player's decision to transfer or Otule not getting a redshirt. We have had success with commitments from seniors and JuCos in the past.

What I am trying to do is make a prediction about what Duane's decision will be. If he is announcing at this time, I don't think Buzz and the staff would look favorably upon that given our current scholarship situation, thus if he says he is announcing then that leaves me to believe it is for some place else. That is all I am saying; Buzz is likely to wait for the season to end or for enough information to be had for the guys to be clear that they aren't going to be asked to leave town.

I think you are missing my point.  Again, you continue with assumptions that may or may not be valid.  Buzz knows, you and I do not. 

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Again, to be more clear. Great if Wilson commits, that is probably the explanation: Buzz has info that he has passed on to the team that we don't have. But ex ante, when predicting what Wilson will do without insider information, the fact that he is announcing now makes it more likely that he is announcing elsewhere.

[bilsu]

The only distraction would be on this board and this board is always distracted about something.