Intelligence matters

[GOMU85]

Yes - I like 20+ wins, but us fans should know better.

At the end of the day you become an elite program by winning conference regular season championships, conference tourny championships, and deep runs in the NCAA.

We need to play a little more smart ball if that is going to occur. Stupid mistakes kill us.

+10000

[GOMU85]

You're lying to yourself if you do not believe that this team has issues with making adjustments which I equate to intelligence.

Yes, we've done well this year, but we know what really matters - and I listed them. Championships & Deep NCAA run's.

We were down how many time's by 10+ points? C'mon man why were no adjustments made - lack of intelligence.

Its funny, you guys wants us to be an elite program, but get blinded by artificial things. 20+ wins, but an early out in the BE tourny and an early out in the NCAA is like your mother telling you you're good looking.

+10000000000!!!!!

[Mumichfan06]

Brewcity - congratulations on accepting medocrity.

As fan's we can point out flaws and the basketball intelligence of this team is lacking.

Sorry for wanting the best for the program I root for.

[dwaderoy2004]

You've only been a fan since 2006.  You have know idea how far this program has come.  If you think MU in general, and this team in particular, is not striving for those things you list (and well on their way to achieving them in the coming years), I don't know what to tell you.  

[dwaderoy2004]

If you don't think this team makes adjustments, how can you possibly explain us coming back from double digit deficits consistently this season?

[Mumichfan06]

Dude, that was a typo on my part.

I graduated in 2006. Started at MU 2002. Growing up in CA, I was exactly familiar with Marquette given their struggles in the '90's and distance from MKE.

I was there for the Final 4, saw a few lean years, loved Matthews, James, and McNeal, and supported this team.

Does it really matter if I have been a fan for only 10 years? Why does that even fit into the equations.

I'm really shocked at how big of kitten's some of you are. Do any of you work in sales? Play competitive sports? My god. We know that their is gamtime intelligence.

[Golden Avalanche]

Buzz's teams always seem good for complete breakdown games 2-5 times a year.   Just chuck it up, no d.   I was impressed with how well the team rebounded after their slow start in BE play.   Hopefully Buzz tightens things up going forward....games like UL, etc. are disturbing though, just in their Rucker park total lack of discipline quality.

This seems right. We've seen it each of the last few years.

The amazing part is that MU was ready to take the lead near the end of the first half last night until Cadougan bricked a 23 footer that was the definition of ill-advised. Also remember that in the second half this was a four point game with 14 minutes to play.

All in all, with the unforced errors and poor play from the 1, MU still had the opportunity to turn this game at a couple points.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Last nights game showed the true lack of intelligence this team has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over.

Friends - team's like Duke, UNC, Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006, more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill (if you can even say Cadougan has skill)

Your not entirely wrong, and Buzz took the blame in the presser saying that 26 turnovers were on him.

In this game, and the ND game, I wish Buzz had made some in game adjustments, however, in his defense, I don't know if there was/is a magic pill that would have won those games for MU.

HOWEVER, your point about UNC, Duke, etc. is dumb and uniformed. Good teams lose sometimes. Sometimes its strategy, sometimes guys just have a bad night. Whatever the reasons are, you can't pretend like those schools magically do everything right, because they don't.

Your point about MU needing to make adjustments is valid. The rest of your post is naive and reactionary.

[Lennys Tap]

You're lying to yourself if you do not believe that this team has issues with making adjustments which I equate to intelligence.

This year's team leads the nation in coming back from double digit deficits. You do that by making adjustments. So by your template for intelligence, MU is the smartest team in D1 basketball this year. You, on the the other hand....

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I was taught to always want to be the best. I want MU to be the best. I'll never settle that we have to be an average program.

I've heard other people say stuff like this, and its never made sense to me.

You'll never settle? What are you going to do, go picket the AL and demand a refund?

If you are unhappy with the product, don't watch. Don't put yourself through it. Get a hobby that you can control, like model trains... then you don't have to "settle" because you are in control.

[hairy worthen]

This seems right. We've seen it each of the last few years.

The amazing part is that MU was ready to take the lead near the end of the first half last night until Cadougan bricked a 23 footer that was the definition of ill-advised. Also remember that in the second half this was a four point game with 14 minutes to play.

All in all, with the unforced errors and poor play from the 1, MU still had the opportunity to turn this game at a couple points.

Thats what I thought. 26 turnovers, and how poorly we played overall, especially defensive rebounding and we were still in the game the whole time.

[CTWarrior]

In this game, and the ND game, I wish Buzz had made some in game adjustments, however, in his defense, I don't know if there was/is a magic pill that would have won those games for MU.  

I agree during the ND game there wasn't much we could do on defense.  Last night, for an effective defense we needed to force Louisville to play half court offense but we went out of our way not to do that.  I think the 10 point deficit made us think we had to press and force things.  I also think the full-court defensive strategy was forced by our inability to score in the halfcourt ourselves.  We could not get a shot up around the rim because of their shot blockers and we were not knocking down our 3 point shots.  It was pick your poison.  Louisville just beat us at our own game.

[brewcity77]

Brewcity - congratulations on accepting medocrity. Hopefully, that rule doesnt apply to your wife.

As fan's we can point out flaws and the basketball intelligence of this team is lacking.

Sorry for wanting the best for the program I root for.

If you have read anything I've posted in the past 14 hours, you would see that I am not accepting mediocrity. I don't think anyone is more upset about last night's loss than I am.

Second, do not bring my family into this. I repeat, DO NOT BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS. That has nothing to do with anything on this site. It is uncalled for and completely and utterly classless. You can attack me, you can libel me all over the web, but leave my family out of it.

[79Warrior]

If someone told everyone on this board before the season that Marquette would do the things below, every single one of us would have signed up.

- be ranked 9th in the country on March 9th
- have a decent shot at a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament
- finish second in the Big East
- (all this despite losing their center for 75% of the season and their backup center for 33%)
- lose to Louisville in the third round of the Big East tournament

Well, lets be fair. We are not the only team to suffer injuries. In addition, the third round of the BE tourney is overstating it a bit. Excluding the double bye, we were winless. Huge difference

[dwaderoy2004]

It's not overstating it.  It's a fact.  It is, however, misleading, as you alluded to.

It begs the question, though: Would you have rather we finished ninth in conference and won 2 games to reach the third round, or finished second and got the double bye to the third round?

[jficke13]

just a little lesson to increase the OP's intelligence: When you want to make something plural (more than 1 of something) you often add an "s." When you want to make something possessive (I own this thing) you often add an apostrophe-s ('s).

We are not kitten's, though we may be kittens. We have not been down by 10 multiple time's, but we may have been down by 10 multiple times.

[GOO]

just a little lesson to increase the OP's intelligence: When you want to make something plural (more than 1 of something) you often add an "s." When you want to make something possessive (I own this thing) you often add an apostrophe-s ('s).

We are not kitten's, though we may be kittens. We have not been down by 10 multiple time's, but we may have been down by 10 multiple times.

Thanks lawwarrior for the lesson.  Since MUMICH06 wants to be the best and won't settle for less, I'm sure he appreciates the lesson as we all know that intelligence matters.  Maybe MUMICH06 can now flog himself for his error and show his intelligence by not letting it happen again. 

Seriously, we can expect a lot, but we are fans and not on the team.  Give the kids a break.  To say they lack intelligence based upon the game last night, is taking it too far for many of us.  That may be the problem with your post and hence the negative reaction to it.  They are in the midst of a very solid season, and like almost all teams, there will be a few bad games along the way.  Since Georgetown had trouble with our press all game, I suppose they lack intelligence in your book as well.  Northwestern sure must have lacked intelligence in your book a couple of times this year.  I wonder if Harvard didn't adjust to a defense this year?  I bet they had a game where they didn't....

[Les Nessman]

God damn, I love college basketball!!

[muhoops1]

Last nights game showed the true lack of intelligence this team has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over.

Friends - team's like Duke, UNC, Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006, more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill (if you can even say Cadougan has skill)

It does matter.  You're dumb.

[LON]

It does matter.  You're dumb.

+100000000

/GOMU85

God damn, I love college basketball!!

Imagine this place if we had a football team.

[leever]

I feel another discussion of gerunds is about to break out!

Having said that, since we are apparently incapable of making any in game adjustments, what happened in the 1st Louisville game?  When we came back from being down 18-2.  Did Louisville get even dumber than us suddenly?  Or, did they make some sort of negative adjustment? 

[RawdogDX]

Dude, that was a typo on my part.

I graduated in 2006. Started at MU 2002. Growing up in CA, I was exactly familiar with Marquette given their struggles in the '90's and distance from MKE.

I was there for the Final 4, saw a few lean years, loved Matthews, James, and McNeal, and supported this team.

Does it really matter if I have been a fan for only 10 years? Why does that even fit into the equations.

I'm really shocked at how big of kitten's some of you are. Do any of you work in sales? Play competitive sports? My god. We know that their is gamtime intelligence.

dude, you followed it up with three more typos.

you brought up how you'd been a fan since 2006.  don't blame other people for your frack ups.

the fact that we went to the final 4 in your sophomore year does matter.  it shows that you don't have the same perspective as someone who was watching in the 80s and 90s.

Calling people hairy wet cats because they don't agree with you?... I like it!

Are you in sales because you aren't selling your argument well at all, but you are also being a dick so it's hard to tell.

Don't bring the invisible man in the sky into this he, might break out his magic powers for the first time in 2000 years or .2 seconds (depending on who you talk to).

please fix typos.

[mosarsour]

Dude, that was a typo on my part.

I graduated in 2006. Started at MU 2002. Growing up in CA, I was exactly familiar with Marquette given their struggles in the '90's and distance from MKE.

I was there for the Final 4, saw a few lean years, loved Matthews, James, and McNeal, and supported this team.

Does it really matter if I have been a fan for only 10 years? Why does that even fit into the equations.
I'm really shocked at how big of kitten's some of you are. Do any of you work in sales? Play competitive sports? My god. We know that their is gamtime intelligence.

Fix all of this and I won't question your intelligence.

[tower912]

First 11 posts ranting about the team's intelligence.   Mmmmmm, I love the taste of irony. 

[Dawson Rental]

Dude, that was a typo on my part.

I graduated in 2006. Started at MU 2002. Growing up in CA, I was exactly familiar with Marquette given their struggles in the '90's and distance from MKE.

I was there for the Final 4, saw a few lean years, loved Matthews, James, and McNeal, and supported this team.

Does it really matter if I have been a fan for only 10 years? Why does that even fit into the equations.

I'm really shocked at how big of kitten's some of you are. Do any of you work in sales? Play competitive sports? My god. We know that their is gamtime intelligence.

No, but we competitively post, and posts like yours are big fat fastballs right down the middle of the plate.
I'm not really surprised that you seem to have taken your ball and gone home.