Intelligence matters

[Mumichfan06]

Last nights game showed the true lack of intelligence this team has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over.

Friends - team's like Duke, UNC, Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006, more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill (if you can even say Cadougan has skill)

[dwaderoy2004]

25-7.  Every freaking time, though!

[Mumichfan06]

Yes - I like 20+ wins, but us fans should know better.

At the end of the day you become an elite program by winning conference regular season championships, conference tourny championships, and deep runs in the NCAA.

We need to play a little more smart ball if that is going to occur. Stupid mistakes kill us.

[MUWarrior11]

Have you felt this way all year? Did you feel this way after our 10 game win streak to start the season? Or after our run of winning 12/13 consecutive Big East games? Or after a team with no functioning player taller than 6'7" figured out a way to play smart enough to get second place in the Big East?

Dude, we lost a game last night. That doesn't mean we are not intelligent.  By the way, have you considered that teams like Duke, UNC and Syracuse don't lose as many games because they get 5 star recruits on an annual basis? Maybe that has something to do with it.

Not trying to rip you, but just pointing out that I feel this is another example of overreaction.  Where's the levity? Our team has managed to keep their heads on straight all year and keep some perspective, why can't MU scoop do the same?

[Lennys Tap]

Last nights game showed the true lack of intelligence this team has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over.

Friends - team's like Duke, UNC, Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006, more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill (if you can even say Cadougan has skill)

Anyone who could write this crap (UNC and Syracuse "use their minds to make adjustments", etc) is in no position to offer an opinion on someone else's intelligence.

[rocky_warrior]

Wow, a fan all the way back to 06 huh?  

[PVMagic]

4 posts.  4 of them negative.

This team didn't play smart basketball last night.  That hasn't been the norm this season.

[Goose]

Athleticism matters!!!!

[GOO]

Last nights game showed the true lack of intelligence this team has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over.

Friends - team's like Duke, UNC, Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006, more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill (if you can even say Cadougan has skill)

Wow, maybe you should interact with some of the players in person.  Lack of Intelligence is not a problem with this group and basketball IQ is not a problem.

[hairy worthen]

Duke 63  Ohio St 85    11-29-11
Duke 70  NC  88           3-3-12
NC 57    Fl St 90           1-14-12

Wait, I guess good, intelligent teams do have bad losses.

Obviously intelligence dosen't matter for message board posters

[TallTitan34]

If someone told everyone on this board before the season that Marquette would do the things below, every single one of us would have signed up.

- be ranked 9th in the country on March 9th
- have a decent shot at a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament
- finish second in the Big East
- (all this despite losing their center for 75% of the season and their backup center for 33%)
- lose to Louisville in the third round of the Big East tournament

[MUWarrior11]

If someone told everyone on this board before the season that Marquette would do the things below, every single one of us would have signed up.

- be ranked 9th in the country on March 9th
- have a decent shot at a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament
- finish second in the Big East
- (all this despite losing their center for 75% of the season and their backup center for 33%)
- lose to Louisville in the third round of the Big East tournament

Very well said. I think our intelligence on this board is more of an issue than our teams intelligence on the court.

[Mumichfan06]

You're lying to yourself if you do not believe that this team has issues with making adjustments which I equate to intelligence.

Yes, we've done well this year, but we know what really matters - and I listed them. Championships & Deep NCAA run's.

We were down how many time's by 10+ points? C'mon man why were no adjustments made - lack of intelligence.

Its funny, you guys wants us to be an elite program, but get blinded by artificial things. 20+ wins, but an early out in the BE tourny and an early out in the NCAA is like your mother telling you you're good looking.

[damuts222]

  Last time I checked our season isn't over and we do fairly well when bouncing back from a loss, for example Georgetown. I ripped Cadougan last night for his play...but he will learn from last night. I guarantee that we swarm the boards and take care of the ball our first game of the NCAA tourney.

[MUWarrior11]

Mumichfan06- You call it "blinded by artificial things." I can it being realistic. You are right, we don't consistently make the final four, win national titles or make deep tourney runs.  We aren't a truly elite program.  But we are realistic and make the best of what we got.  If you are dissapointed with anything less than a BET Title or a Final Four, then...well, I guess it sucks to be you.  You aren't gunna be happy most years. Maybe you could become a UNC fan? Or a Duke fan? Maybe check back in 2018, but MU isn't going to be a consistent Final 4 team anytime too soon. Sorry bud

[Mumichfan06]

We all hope that. But my god we're allowed to point out problems and offer what we think are solutions.

We all want success and its fair to look at the program and critique area's for improvement.

[damuts222]

We all hope that. But my god we're allowed to point out problems and offer what we think are solutions.

We all want success and its fair to look at the program and critique area's for improvement.

  Your a glass half empty guy aren't ya

[Mumichfan06]

Why can't we strive to be elite and make consistent deep runs? Win the BE tourney make a few consistent Elite 8's and better recruits will come. You're going to disagree with that?

I was taught to always want to be the best. I want MU to be the best. I'll never settle that we have to be an average program.


By the way, never ever ever reference me rooting for school like Duke or UNC - totally ridiculous on your part.

[Mumichfan06]

Why can't we strive to be elite and make consistent deep runs? Win the BE tourney make a few consistent Elite 8's and better recruits will come. You're going to disagree with that?

I was taught to always want to be the best. I want MU to be the best. I'll never settle that we have to be an average program.


By the way, never ever ever reference me rooting for school like Duke or UNC - totally ridiculous on your part.

You're probably the guy always picked last in sports and was just thankful...give me a break with the half empty b.s.

[MarquetteDano]

You're lying to yourself if you do not believe that this team has issues with making adjustments which I equate to intelligence.

Yes, we've done well this year, but we know what really matters - and I listed them. Championships & Deep NCAA run's.

We were down how many time's by 10+ points? C'mon man why were no adjustments made - lack of intelligence.

Its funny, you guys wants us to be an elite program, but get blinded by artificial things. 20+ wins, but an early out in the BE tourny and an early out in the NCAA is like your mother telling you you're good looking.

Actually, if you are going to blame adjustments, it technically should be Buzz, not the players.  And to keep on coming back to the word intelligence I just find strange.  Northwestern and Harvard are probably really smart teams and I would love to play them in the NCAA's.

UConn won the National Championship last year and may be prohibited from the NCAA due to poor class results.  Do you really think Kentucky is the most intelligent team the country at No 1?  

[Mumichfan06]

We all know these guys probably could add, subtract, or put together a coherent sentence. We're not talking ACT or SAT scores.

But they should be able to understand basketball strategy and if something isn't working how to change it.

Buzz does deserve some blame here too.

[TallTitan34]

UConn won the National Championship last year and may be prohibited from the NCAA due to poor class results.

Excellent counterpoint! 

[brewcity77]

Fixed a few things for you, inserted comments on some others.

Last nights game This thread showed the true lack of intelligence this team poster has. What's the definition of insanity? If I didn't know better I would think it was this team dribbling into a double team expecting something other than a turn over a guy showing up to troll just because the team lost one game.

Friends (who are you talking to, I don't think you have any here) - team's (did you mean to use the possessive?) like Duke (despite "dumb" losses to FSU and Miami), UNC (despite getting killed by FSU and a dumb loss to Duke...wtf was Zeller doing on Rivers' 3?), Syracuse don't lose games like this because they use their mind's (or maybe you meant a contraction with the word is...nope, still doesn't work) to make adjustments.

Marquette, and I have been watching since 2006 (oooh, 2006! Well, you've certainly seen it all), more often then not will not adjust their game and it KILLS us every (insert expletive time) (that's a fail of parenthetical usage).

It leads me to wonder if Buzz the moderators needs to start looking more at someone's intelligence than entirely on skill ability to fill out the online membership application (if you can even say Cadougan I has skill)

[Blackhat]

Buzz's teams always seem good for complete breakdown games 2-5 times a year.   Just chuck it up, no d.   I was impressed with how well the team rebounded after their slow start in BE play.   Hopefully Buzz tightens things up going forward....games like UL, etc. are disturbing though, just in their Rucker park total lack of discipline quality.

[ecompt]

If someone told everyone on this board before the season that Marquette would do the things below, every single one of us would have signed up.

- be ranked 9th in the country on March 9th
- have a decent shot at a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament
- finish second in the Big East
- (all this despite losing their center for 75% of the season and their backup center for 33%)
- lose to Louisville in the third round of the Big East tournament

+1,000