Seth Davis Article

[real chili 83]

Not very Catholic or Christian of you.

I cheer for Marquette when they aren't playing Wisconsin.  You guys just have a factual problem that needed to be addressed.

Bob, ef you.  Troll.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Bob, enjoy your whiteness.

Best,
warrior07

[muwarrior97]

Doesn't Bob have a protest to attend?

[real chili 83]

Doesn't Bob have a protest to attend?

He would have to leave his mom's basement first.

[wadesworld]

Not very Catholic or Christian of you.

I cheer for Marquette when they aren't playing Wisconsin.  You guys just have a factual problem that needed to be addressed.

Remember when Marquette went to the Kohl Hole and suspended it's starting point guard for the game, starting a freshman in his place, who shut down Wisconsin's "All American" (hah!) point guard, and won?  Weird.

[MarquetteDano]

They were right.  You should want to be more like Wisconsin.  The facts are the facts.  

I still think the article was over the top on bashing Wisconsin.  But Bob's post here is another good example of Badgers fans that think basketball started in 2000.  Of that list of eight categories Wisconsin leads in 2, Marquette 4, and a few of the categories make no sense because Marquette has only been in a conference for about one sixth of their history so those are moot.

But, yes, let us all pretend no one ever played basketball before 2000.

[MUMac]

I still think the article was over the top on bashing Wisconsin.  But Bob's post here is another good example of Badgers fans that think basketball started in 2000.  Of that list of eight categories Wisconsin leads in 2, Marquette 4, and a few of the categories make no sense because has only been in a conference for about one sixth of their history so those are moot.

But, yes, let us all pretend no one ever played basketball before 2000.

You mean there was basketball before 2000? 

I guess it proves that anyone can cherry pick to make their point.  Sort of like the old saying, figures don't lie, liars figure.  UW had a better overall decade than MU in the 2000's.  What does that mean?  Nothing more than that - except to Bob. 

I will be interested to see this same list for 2010-2023.  As things are going right now, I will take the Warriors future over the Badgers past.

[Skatastrophy]

Ignore uw-madison trolls.  They're a lot like Minnesota Vinkings fans:  They talk a lot, but does it really matter since they've never won a championship?

[AZWarrior]

Doesn't Bob have a protest to attend?

Or a building to trash?

[Hoopaloop]

Remember when all we heard last year was "why can't we be more like Wisconsin?"

Gross.

Not all that shocking, though, is it?  We struggled last year.  Wisconsin beat us at our place. We finished in the bottom half of the Big East for the first time, got an 11 seed.  Were considered a bubble team to even get in the tournament until we won two Big East tourney games and then got an 11 seed.  Meanwhile, Wisconsin does what they have done consistently the since the late 1990's.  They just keep on winning.

They have a boring team but if fans were saying they wanted to be more like Wisconsin because they have won so much, is that startling?  Its what fans do and they would have reason for saying so last year.  Wisconsin has been the top dog in Wisconsin for a number of years and we need to change that.  This year we have taken that step but would anyone be surprised to see Wisconsin play in the second weekend of the tournament again? 

[karavotsos]

would anyone be surprised to see Wisconsin play in the second weekend of the tournament again? 

Yes, I would.

[Real Chilly Podcast]

looks like diehard Badger Bob saw the rankings on his AOL home page for the first time this year and got defensive and butthurt about it.

hopefully you're getting plenty of mileage out of the Brian Butch poster that hangs over your bed


...that's Bob there in the background

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

I actually don't think Chicos should be banned, but isn't this getting a little ridiculous? Why not just un-ban him?

[w0bbie]

They were right.  You should want to be more like Wisconsin.  The facts are the facts.   

Pretty impressive that we were able to completely bypass the elite 8 round to get that final four appearance.

[Sir Lawrence]

Pretty impressive that we were able to completely bypass the elite 8 round to get that final four appearance.

And I thought that put us in the sweet 16 that year as well, or did he miss last year's?

[cheebs09]

I think it is just going off of the furthest you have made it. The UW Elite Eight was the year they lost to UNC, who went on to win the National Championship.

[PVMagic]

It counts finishes... Wisconsin would have 2 Elite 8s by that measure as well (of course, one of those they had to beat an 11 seed, a 14, and a 10... rough).

[ringout]

It counts finishes... Wisconsin would have 2 Elite 8s by that measure as well (of course, one of those they had to beat an 11 seed, a 14, and a 10... rough).

Funny how BADger fans have spun "underperformance into We are better than you".

[Eye]

First of all, the Seth Davis column was fantastic.

Let's try this again. Surprised no one else has done this yet ...

NC2A berths since 1955 - MU 29, UW-Madison 15
NC2A wins since 1955 - MU 36, UW-Madison 19
Sweet 16s since 1955 - MU 14, UW-Madison 5
Elite 8's since 1955 - MU 6, UW-Madison 2
Final 4's since 1974 - MU 3, UW-Madison 1
Championshp games since 1974 - MU 2, UW-Madison 0
Championships since 1977 - MU 1, UW-Madison 0

Primary goal of a legitimate national operation is to do damage in March.

[The Process]

You guys just have a factual problem that needed to be addressed.

Bob forgot one very key fact:

Percentage of basketball fans bored to death by UW's offense:  99.9999

And Eye just beat me to the punch line here:  If we expand out our sample size back to, oh, the mid-50s, MU wins.  Easily.

It's obvious that math and facts aren't Bob's strong suits.  Bo, any reaction to that?

[Da 'Lanche]

You would think Badger Bob would know that basketball existed before the year 2000.....his badgers style of play is remiscent of the 1950s.

Serioulsy,   they have had great success under Bo Ryan but I would think if you ask any objective fan of NCAA basketball which program is more likely to return to the final 4 in the next decade....it would undoubtedly be MU.

Their fan base is delightfully delusional...I will give them that...I was at the KU/Texas game last night at the Phogg and a couple wayward UW fans were in attendance sitting behind me (this is a true story)....one guy leans over and said something to the effect of "wow....imagine Kansas if they had Bo as their coach."   

[ringout]

Their fan base is delightfully delusional...I will give them that...I was at the KU/Texas game last night at the Phogg and a couple wayward UW fans were in attendance sitting behind me (this is a true story)....one guy leans over and said something to the effect of "wow....imagine Kansas if they had Bo as their coach."    

Does the state of Kansas have enough traditionals for Bo to recruit a team?  

[Hards Alumni]

You would think Badger Bob would know that basketball existed before the year 2000.....his badgers style of play is remiscent of the 1950s.

Serioulsy,   they have had great success under Bo Ryan but I would think if you ask any objective fan of NCAA basketball which program is more likely to return to the final 4 in the next decade....it would undoubtedly be MU.

Their fan base is delightfully delusional...I will give them that...I was at the KU/Texas game last night at the Phogg and a couple wayward UW fans were in attendance sitting behind me (this is a true story)....one guy leans over and said something to the effect of "wow....imagine Kansas if they had Bo as their coach."   

bahahahahhahahahahahahah

[Hoopaloop]

Yes, I would.

It would shock you to see the #12 team in the country play in the second weekend when there are 16 teams left? 


They appear to be one of those teams that would not surprise me to go out early or make a mini-run to the Sweet 16.   Good enough to beat Ohio State at OSU, lose to North Carolina by 3, beat Indiana, beat UNLV but also dropped two to Iowa. 

[TomW1365]

If anyone happened to catch the end of the UConn vs Syracuse game, and had read this Seth Davis article from last Friday http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/29/scouting.reports/index.html, you would have realized how spot-on the assessment was of UConn!  
Napier cracked under pressure for the second straight night and Jeremy Lamb couldn't create a shot... he only attempted 9 today!
Whoever this coach/s is/are that Seth interviewed, were some talented scouts.