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LAZER

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on March 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
:o

My friend who coaches HS ball in Jersey has consistently parroted the theory that Wisconsin "cheats" the game as well. Not too many people are fond of the bullcrap acting to get whistles.

Acting to get whistles is a part of every sport and every team does it.  As much as I agree with you, everybody does it, MU included.

Freeport Warrior

I just enjoyed Bucky getting called out at all. Aside from us, most everyone else fawns over Bo and his system and discipline. You almost never see anything critical. Good stuff.

MarsupialMadness

Quote from: LAZER on March 02, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
Acting to get whistles is a part of every sport and every team does it.  As much as I agree with you, everybody does it, MU included.

Reggie Miller was notoriously known for this

GOO

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 02, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Actually the clutching and grabbing is forbidden by the rulebook and it was North Carolina's famous four corner stall.

They grab constantly, so much that the refs don't call it or they'd be calling it on every play.  Watch cutters in the lane without the ball, they get grabbed all the time by UW.  They almost dare the refs to call it on everyplay and the refs don't do it. 

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: LAZER on March 02, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
Acting to get whistles is a part of every sport and every team does it.  As much as I agree with you, everybody does it, MU included.

Agree. But the bullshit part of the acting is what's bothersome to people. It's clear as day when they "cheat" a call rather then "embellish" to get the whistle. Everyone does the latter as you suggest. Few do the former as well as Madison.

dwaderoy2004

Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 02, 2012, 11:58:06 AM
HAHAHA ... the take on UW is one of the funniest things I've seen all week... right up there with that hack Matthew Berry ranking Joe Mauer 176th in his fantasy baseball rankings

Mauer's worthless if he can't stay healthy.  Might be the worst contract in baseball right now.

Bieberhole69

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 02, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
Mauer's worthless if he can't stay healthy.  Might be the worst contract in baseball right now.
It was until the Cardinals gave Molina his contract

MarsupialMadness

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on March 02, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
It was until the Cardinals gave Molina his contract

Adam Dunn... i wish he was injured so we didn't feel obligated to play him.

MU82

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on March 02, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
It was until the Cardinals gave Molina his contract

Molina is rarely injured, he's one of the best defensive catchers of his generation, he's become a good clutch hitter and he has two more World Series rings than Mauer and me combined.

He might not be "worth" his contract, but who is? (Actually, they all are. You're worth what somebody will pay you.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Bieberhole69

Quote from: MU82 on March 02, 2012, 03:36:01 PM
Molina is rarely injured, he's one of the best defensive catchers of his generation, he's become a good clutch hitter and he has two more World Series rings than Mauer and me combined.

He might not be "worth" his contract, but who is? (Actually, they all are. You're worth what somebody will pay you.)

Yeah it was more of a tongue in cheek comment.  There are a lot worse contracts out there, but paying that caliber of player that much money while he enters the downside of his career on a team that has a payroll <100MM isn't a smart move.  But back to the Seth Davis article...

Buchec18

Starting to think that may have been Tom Crean who made those remarks about Wisconsin.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: murespect on March 02, 2012, 03:24:16 PM
Adam Dunn... i wish he was injured so we didn't feel obligated to play him.

+1. For 18 million the Sox got the WORST season ever for an uninjured guy with 400+ ABs. He was so bad he could have the second worst season of his career this season and win the comeback player of the year award.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 02, 2012, 09:15:37 PM
+1. For 18 million the Sox got the WORST season ever for an uninjured guy with 400+ ABs. He was so bad he could have the second worst season of his career this season and win the comeback player of the year award.

Arguably -- and not a very difficult argument -- the worst offensive season in baseball history.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dawson Rental

Quote from: LAZER on March 02, 2012, 11:50:24 AM
I hate Wisconsin's style of play as much as anyone around, but to call them cheating the game I think is a little ridiculous

Grabbing an opposing player and pulling him into your body then pretending that he ran into you isn't cheating the game?  Flopping on no contact screens isn't cheating the game?  Some people think that faking fouls isn't cheating, but part of the game.  I'm in the other camp.  Basketball talent should be playing the game, not fooling the referees.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

karavotsos

Michael Jordan enjoyed fooling the referees and he was a fairly talented basketball player.

Dr. Blackheart

Bucky got called on their game clock scam

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: MU_LOL on March 02, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
Yep. He kept us off the polls for a couple of weeks, too. I'm a proponent of his assessment of UW ball. Love it.

It's not Davis' assessment. It's a combination of the comments of two Big Ten coaches.
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Hards Alumni

A couple of my friends who are Bucky fans are furious.  It is hilarious to hear them try to defend Bucky Ball.

tower912

Berggreen, Brusewitz have not had fabulous seasons.   Bucky doesn't clutch and grab in the open court, so they don't get called.   The are very physical, but they generally don't reach.   And their box out techniques are very good, moving the opponent with their lower bodies.    Their pace is unwatchable, their fanbase is ignorant, and this year, if they are shooting poorly, they are likely to lose.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

BobBadger

Quote from: Jamailman on March 02, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
Remember when all we heard last year was "why can't we be more like Wisconsin?"

Gross.

They were right.  You should want to be more like Wisconsin.  The facts are the facts.   



BobBadger

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 03, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
A couple of my friends who are Bucky fans are furious.  It is hilarious to hear them try to defend Bucky Ball.

Nothing to defend.  We have been the dominant program for more than a decade in the state.  You guys call it traditional, whatever that means.  We have quality kids, good basketball players and we win.  We just keep winning.  We will go farther than Marquette this year in the NCAA tournament.  Only once in the last decade have you gone farther than we have, some years we have gone the same distance.  That won't change this year.

PVMagic

Quote from: BobBadger on March 03, 2012, 01:50:22 PM
They were right.  You should want to be more like Wisconsin.  The facts are the facts.   




December 03, 2011.  Marquette 61, Wisconsin 54.  Advantage, Marquette.

The tournament is largely about matchups.  UW-Madison has had some very fortunate draws along the way (how many of those wins are against double digit seeds?).

MU and UW are 5-5 over the last 10.  You have a different definition of dominant than I do.

real chili 83

Quote from: BobBadger on March 03, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Nothing to defend.  We have been the dominant program for more than a decade in the state.  You guys call it traditional, whatever that means.  We have quality kids, good basketball players and we win.  We just keep winning.  We will go farther than Marquette this year in the NCAA tournament.  Only once in the last decade have you gone farther than we have, some years we have gone the same distance.  That won't change this year.

Bob, go ef yourself.  Troll.

BobBadger

Quote from: PVMagic on March 03, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
December 03, 2011.  Marquette 61, Wisconsin 54.  Advantage, Marquette.

The tournament is largely about matchups.  UW-Madison has had some very fortunate draws along the way (how many of those wins are against double digit seeds?).

MU and UW are 5-5 over the last 10.  You have a different definition of dominant than I do.

Dominant is what you do in the post season.  The table I provided is quite clear on who has dominated in this state.  It isn't close

BobBadger

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 03, 2012, 02:12:02 PM
Bob, go ef yourself.  Troll.

Not very Catholic or Christian of you.

I cheer for Marquette when they aren't playing Wisconsin.  You guys just have a factual problem that needed to be addressed.

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