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Orangeblood

Some of us have been talking about who should replace Rick Barnes for the Longhorns.  You coach's name comes up a bit with mixed feelings from our fans.  How long does Buzz Williams have left on his contract?

We know Buzz has Texas ties.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/105514-Potential-coaching-candidates./page2

Benny B

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

brewcity77

Doesn't matter. If he wanted to go back to Texas, he'd have gone to A&M, where he was an assistant and the top target this past summer. Buzz has a rolling contract that has been restructured every year. Maybe he'd leave for a Duke, UNC, UCLA, or other true blue blood, but I don't see him leaving any time soon.

And before you start with the "It's different, we're Texas" talk, understand I heard the same from A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and numerous other fans.

PJDunn

You need to worry a bit more about who is going to replace Mack.  Now that A&M is recruiting as a member of the SEC you boys might have trouble competing with our club football team.  

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


Blackhat

Buzz would listen to UT.   Hot bed of talent for the Texas state U.   He might have a reduced buyout too.

4everwarriors

Y'all might wanna knock on IU's door. That self-absorbed prick will bolt if you offer a buck more and put his mug on the state flag.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

RubyWiscy

Till God, his wife or MU send him elsewhere.

MUBurrow

yikes guys.

Its a rollover deal at 6 or 7 years (I can't remember which) worth $2 million per

brewcity77

Quote from: Stone Cold on February 12, 2012, 10:05:44 PMBuzz would listen to UT.   Hot bed of talent for the Texas state U.   He might have a reduced buyout too.

He had ties to A&M and they didn't get any further than inquiring. Same hotbed of talent. I don't think UT is a big enough gig. It would have to be a true blue blood where basketball is the undisputed king, like Kansas, Duke, etc.

speri

He doesn't coach football, so nobody in Austin would really care if he came. Buzz knows that.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 12, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
He had ties to A&M and they didn't get any further than inquiring. Same hotbed of talent. I don't think UT is a big enough gig. It would have to be a true blue blood where basketball is the undisputed king, like Kansas, Duke, etc.

Not trying to be a dick, but other than being the same state, UT and A&M athletics are nothing alike.

UT, while not a traditional basketball school, is an absolute monster job. HUGE budget. HUGE salary. That athletic department is insanely big, and can afford whatever they want.

Buzz may stay at MU for 30 years. Who knows.

But, let's not pretend that UT and A&M are the similar gigs. They aren't.

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And I thought the Illinois trolls would get here first.

wojosdojo

Quote from: marqptm on February 12, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
And I thought the Illinois trolls would get here first.

+1. Is Webers job strictly based on making the tourney this year?

Skitch

Someone should save that link to look at if people here ever complain about the quality of discourse.  There was about 60 posts in that thread and maybe 15 were about the topic.

As for Buzz leaving, I think he would listen but that it wouldn't get further than that.

A question.  Does anyone think that Buzz's shtick (and I don't mean that term in a dismissive way) would play well at a big public school?  He just seems to fit in better at a smaller religiously centered place. 

MUBurrow

Quote from: Skitch on February 13, 2012, 12:24:58 AM
A question.  Does anyone think that Buzz's shtick (and I don't mean that term in a dismissive way) would play well at a big public school?  He just seems to fit in better at a smaller religiously centered place. 

I think this is an interesting point. I think it might depend on the big public school. Basing my opinion entirely off perception which is probably flawed, I feel like the fanbase at say Arkansas or even A&M is much different than UT.  The former might embrace a guy as charismatic and eccentric as Buzz the same way we have. They are larger schools, but they still see themselves as a bit more of the underdogs of the wider southern public school landscape.

But I have to imagine that a place with the scrutiny and constant expectations of UT would cause the relationship to sour sooner than later.  They seem to want a coach and team to validate their over inflated sense of themselves.  The first time a UT team under Buzz might "underperform" the unusual recruits, or emphasis on numbers, or Buzz-isms we've come to love would immediately become points of criticism.

I don't mean to make us as a fanbase out to be better than we are. We're as entitled, unreasonable, demanding, etc as the next guy. But at a place like UT, the constant bombardment is different - and a couple of big seasons doesn't lengthen your leash quite the same as it does at a place like MU. I just think the underdog mentality meshes much better with the way Buzz operates than somewhere with the expectations of UT.

strotty

This time of the year already? But we were doing so well!

"Like Momma says, 'Don't mess with happy.' And I'm happy."

Skitch

Yea I see what you are saying MUburrow and definitely agree with your analysis.  I was also talking about a lot of the Christian stuff.  I know it's very important in Buzz's life and he doesn't hold back sharing that in interviews and things we see him involved in.  I just wonder if that would fly as easily at a big state school or if he would be being told constantly to cool it down.

avid1010

Quote from: Skitch on February 13, 2012, 12:24:58 AM

A question.  Does anyone think that Buzz's shtick (and I don't mean that term in a dismissive way) would play well at a big public school?  He just seems to fit in better at a smaller religiously centered place. 

if he's winning his shtick will play well anywhere...if he's losing, it won't play well anywhere.  tc tried to play up the private school thing a few times, it was the most pathetic thing i ever saw.  he has a future job in tv preacher. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Skitch on February 13, 2012, 01:07:01 AM
Yea I see what you are saying MUburrow and definitely agree with your analysis.  I was also talking about a lot of the Christian stuff.  I know it's very important in Buzz's life and he doesn't hold back sharing that in interviews and things we see him involved in.  I just wonder if that would fly as easily at a big state school or if he would be being told constantly to cool it down.

Or maybe he lets it out because he is at MU and knows it will play well.  Prior to coming to MU was he as outspoken as an assistant?  no.

I totally agree with 2002MUalum here.  I think a lot of you don't understand that UT is a HUGE job.

Tugg Speedman

I'm sorry, I must have missed it ... who said, or what said, that Barnes is leaving or getting fired?

He isn't going anywhere so what is the point of this thread?

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: strotty on February 13, 2012, 12:58:33 AM
This time of the year already? But we were doing so well!

"Like Momma says, 'Don't mess with happy.' And I'm happy."

To be fair, it's a Texas fan who wandered by and asked.

In theory, at least.
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Brewtown Andy

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 13, 2012, 07:15:38 AM
I'm sorry, I must have missed it ... who said, or what said, that Barnes is leaving or getting fired?

He isn't going anywhere so what is the point of this thread?

Maybe that arm injury is more serious than it looks.
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mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Skitch on February 13, 2012, 12:24:58 AM
A question.  Does anyone think that Buzz's shtick (and I don't mean that term in a dismissive way) would play well at a big public school?  He just seems to fit in better at a smaller religiously centered place. 

I'd say his schtick would fit right in at any southern school.  More football than basketball, but coaches are father figures, even moreso in the south.  His "character revealed" stuff would be a big hit .. and even at a public school, plenty of bible thumpers.

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