What a horrible time out call by Buzz when we went up 17.

[Jacks DC]

Seemed like odd timing but this thread is a bit ridiculous.  You don't just stop coaching when things are going well and to think that cost us the game is crazy.  Buzz saw something, or wanted to give the guys a breather and used a TO.  I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some blame overall but that isolated decision was not a deciding factor.

[MUMac]

As another poster mentioned before, there was a TV timeout close to the one Buzz called.  So under the "not second guessing" logic, I expect a thread blaming ESPN-U for the loss?
Again, the timeout, as a SINGLE MOMENT occuring in the TOTALITY of the game, did not cause the loss.  There are lots of other reasons why we lost.

DJO made a 3 before the TV TO.  That made it a 5-3 run.  Foul by Mayo leading into the TV TO, followed by a Mayo and Blue TO on consecutive possessions started the run in earnest.

[MarquetteFan94]

I've never seen a team give up so many huge runs to an opponent.  Tonights run was 34-14. Vandy was 31-6. Louisville last year was even worse.  I just don't get what they're trying to do defensively.

We have to lead the country in giving up 12+ point second half leads on the road (or neutral) over the last 3 years...painful.

[MU82]

Agree that the timeout wasn't why we lost. But I, too, turned to my wife and said, "That was a weird time to call a timeout." And as the lead diminished, I admit that I commented a couple more times on it. So maybe it was one of many little (and a few big) things that contributed to a truly disgusting come-from-ahead loss.

Overall, Buzz didn't have his best game. How many good looks at the basket did we get in the final 13 minutes? One? Two? Yes, credit the Georgetown defense. But lots and lots of standing around and passing the ball 30 feet from the basket, waiting for DJO or Crowder or Mayo to hit a deep 3-pointer. Pretty poor.

And I'm a Buzz fan.

[muzzwilliams]

I blame Buzz for the loss. And this is the first time I have had the courage to point a finger at him but he needs to make changes with the D. He makes players sit out games for violating team rules, why don't you dicipline these guys when they don't play D. Unacceptable.

[UticaBusBarn]

Though it might not have been THE contributing factor to the loss, it was most certainly a most questionable decision. It was the sort of decision not even a junior high coach would have made.

[RJax55]

Biggest mistake was not moving Blue over to cover Clark earlier. Blue started the game guarding Thompson, however when GT started to make its run, it had 4 freshman on the floor and Clark.

Instead, Clark was guarded by Mayo. Clark roasted him. Without Thompson on the floor, Blue should have been switched over to Clark. It took Buzz too long to adjust, and when he finally did (after the 4 minute TV timeout), Thompson was already back on the floor.

Unfortunately for MU, Blue controlled Clark, but then Thompson got going.

[JTBMU7]

hindsight shows it to be a questionable call given the flow of the game, but more and more coaches will do that now for various reasons.

I think Buzz's idea is to ensure they have to inbounds from under the basket instead of in front of their bench, with a called play and 30 seconds on the shot clock. this would make sense (somewhat) for MU who was pressing full court almost all night and would likely want to force them to have to go 90 feet against a fresh, defensive lineup. Buzz could have sensed that another stop there was key and taking the time to set it up was worth the risk/TO.

that's just my guess as to why he would have done that (and has done that in the past) clearly though, it blew up in our face as it saved a TO for them, let them get collected, and cost a valuable TO that might have been helpful around 2-3 minutes....

[77ncaachamps]

I was going to say the rebounding was horrible, but the margin was close.

I think it was the unnecessary fouls that put GT on the line to narrow the margin AND stopping the clock.

Minimize the fouls, and we would've won by them shooting less FTs.

[bamamarquettefan]

Admit, even as a huge Buzz supporter, I was stunned by the timeout.  We were in such a flow, and the announcer even said, "Georgetown timeout," with the assumption that they had called it to break our run.

On defense though, when we played a more traditional defense Sims just hit 10-footers.  When we have a 6-5 guy (Crowder), or a 6-8 guy who can't jump (Davante), it's just too easy a target to just think we can just line up and guard the basket when they lob it in.  They have Sims and 6 other guys 6-8 or 6-9 who all can easily outjump Gardner or just have too much height over Crowder or Jamil.  The first half showed what we have to do in my mind - gamble and trap.  When it works, we have great defense and great transition offense (first half).  When we play more traditional defense, it's not effective and even when we do get a stop, we aren't on the break and our half court offense is very inconsistent.

Yeah, but that hurt.  Not often i wait until 4 p.m. the next day after a game to even get on MU Scoop.

[bilsu]

I have to admit I was really confused by that timeout. We were going for the jugular, then he subbed Derrick Wilson in and they hit a 3 coming out of the TO and Wilson turned it over on a pointless pass and they scored immediately in transition which got the crowd into it for the first time in forever. The lead went from 17 to 12 in the blink of an eye and the crowd seemed to energize GTown the rest of the way.

I think you are wrong here. The way I remember it Derrick Wilson passed the ball to Mayo for the three to go up 17. I think Jamil Wilson came in for Gardner and not to much time later missed the front end of a bonus that really hurt. I think Buzz called time out, because Gardner was getting tired. That possession turned out well with Mayo hitting the three, but we already looked out of sync on offense.

[MUMac]

I think you are wrong here. The way I remember it Derrick Wilson passed the ball to Mayo for the three to go up 17. I think Jamil Wilson came in for Gardner and not to much time later missed the front end of a bonus that really hurt. I think Buzz called time out, because Gardner was getting tired. That possession turned out well with Mayo hitting the three, but we already looked out of sync on offense.

Nope.  DWilson came in.  Committed a foul, played poor defense and threw the ball away.  Bang, bang, bang, 5 point run in seconds for GT.

[lab_warrior]

We were in such a flow, and the announcer even said, "Georgetown timeout," with the assumption that they had called it to break our run.

I guess this is part of my point...what if Georgetown had called the timeout?  The outcome of the game is still the same, so people who think this one "magic" timeout cost us the game are incorrect.  There were soooo many other things that were to blame. 

[CTWarrior]

I guess this is part of my point...what if Georgetown had called the timeout?  The outcome of the game is still the same, so people who think this one "magic" timeout cost us the game are incorrect.  There were soooo many other things that were to blame. 

If Georgetown called the timeout it still would have contributed to our demise for the same reasons, (what turned out to be a bad substitution by us, cessation of momentum).  It just wouldn't have been a self-inflicted wound.

[Lennys Tap]

In any loss (especially a gut wrenching one like Wednesday's) there are lots of "ifs" that could have altered the outcome. I'd say missing three totally uncontested layups in the first half and letting Clark go off on us in the second half (waited too long to put Blue on him) were two keys. In addition, our overall D in the second half was lacking and Georgetown played almost flawlessly (made the D look even worse). Finally, the refs (who I thought were very good and even handed through almost all of the game) missed an obvious foul late that should have been 3 free throws for DJO.

I didn't "get" the time out by Buzz, and certainly subbing in D Wilson backfired, but it was just one of many things that went wrong.

[downtown85]

I have to admit I was really confused by that timeout. We were going for the jugular, then he subbed Derrick Wilson in and they hit a 3 coming out of the TO and Wilson turned it over on a pointless pass and they scored immediately in transition which got the crowd into it for the first time in forever. The lead went from 17 to 12 in the blink of an eye and the crowd seemed to energize GTown the rest of the way.

Not to hijack the thread, but the way I saw it, the timeout was the turning point but when JWill missed the front end of his one-and-one that was the point of no return from the inevitable loss.   Despite us being ahead at that point, for me that missed free throw and Georgetown's rebound and score seemed to be soul crushing for the team.    

[MU B2002]

I didn't "get" the time out by Buzz (was somebody, maybe Davante, gassed and in need of a sub?), but to me it was a small factor.

I thought maybe it was to stop our guys from "taunting" the fans along the baseline, as Mayo seemed to be gesturing that direction after the made 3.  

This game reminded me of game 2 of the nba finals last year where Wade made the dagger in front of the Dallas bench and then the Mavericks proceeded to play out of their minds while Miami could do nothing right.

[RJax55]

I thought maybe it was to stop our guys from "taunting" the fans along the baseline, as Mayo seemed to be gesturing that direction after the made 3.  

This game reminded me of game 2 of the nba finals last year where Wade made the dagger in front of the Dallas bench and then the Mavericks proceeded to play out of their minds while Miami could do nothing right.

Had the same exact thought. I cringed when Mayo did that and immediately thought of that Heat game.

[Golden Avalanche]

I thought maybe it was to stop our guys from "taunting" the fans along the baseline, as Mayo seemed to be gesturing that direction after the made 3.  

This game reminded me of game 2 of the nba finals last year where Wade made the dagger in front of the Dallas bench and then the Mavericks proceeded to play out of their minds while Miami could do nothing right.

Considering some of the crap that goes on with our bench, Mayo's stop and stare is nothing much in my book but it did make me wince as I knew the collapse could happen.