[Enlund's Blog] Blue to start

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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/133649583.html
               

[Wade for President]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

Doh!

[NersEllenson]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

Doh!

That was AWESOME!!  All these kids know Buzz loves them/cares about them, etc., - but Buzz has no hesitation to challenge his guys/call his guys out/tweak them etc.  Much the way a Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, etc., did.

[rocky_warrior]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

I'm not sure how he's translating "unsophisticated" - simple/unrefined, or pure/genuine.  Perhaps it's not that important.  According to the Paint Touches article which interviewed Jay, DJO, and DWill - it sounds like they think Junior is their starting PG too.

[NotAnAlum]

Let the mind games begin.  Did this last year starting Reggie when everyone knew this team would never go anywhere with Reggie as the starting point.  Buzz must think he needs to light a fire under Junior.  In my opinoin it didn't work last year and Junior didn't gain back his confidence until late in the year.  I guess we'll see.

[tower912]

I predict a 3 guard, all returnee, starting lineup.   Junior will play point, DJO and Blue wings.   

[esotericmindguy]

How does vander blue have a starting spot locked up? Because of some good practices? Good lord, here we go again.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Blue must've had a HELLUVA off season.

[T-Bone]

I wouldn't look into who starts game one too much:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2010/11/12/prairie-view-am-58-marquette-97

EWill, Blue, Reggie, Butler and Otule.

Relax and see how the team flows.  A hockey line change or two may show something really interesting.  Half the fun of the cupcakes.

[avid1010]

How does vander blue have a starting spot locked up? Because of some good practices? Good lord, here we go again.

Here we go again?  I'm sure Buzz would like to redo last year, every year.  The team goes deeper than expected in the NCAA tournament, JFB gets drafted in the first round, and Buzz gets a nice raise...here we go again!

Something tells me the guy knows what he's doing when it comes to playing who he plays.

[Golden Avalanche]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

Doh!

Honesty is his best quality, right?

[esotericmindguy]

Here we go again?  I'm sure Buzz would like to redo last year, every year.  The team goes deeper than expected in the NCAA tournament, JFB gets drafted in the first round, and Buzz gets a nice raise...here we go again!

Something tells me the guy knows what he's doing when it comes to playing who he plays.

Seriously? Go back and look at Blue's minutes in respect to when the Golden Eagles played well. He started out playing about 27-28 minutes a game against the scrubs and ended up playing about half of those minutes down the stretch. So here we go again dipsh*t. Has nothing to do with the success of the team, and yes I know Buzz knows what he's doing...but Vander is tease.

[tower912]

Right.   It is impossible he has improved and we should just assume that what we saw as a freshman is as good as he is ever going to get.   

[avid1010]

Seriously? Go back and look at Blue's minutes in respect to when the Golden Eagles played well. He started out playing about 27-28 minutes a game against the scrubs and ended up playing about half of those minutes down the stretch. So here we go again dipsh*t. Has nothing to do with the success of the team, and yes I know Buzz knows what he's doing...but Vander is tease.

Tough guy with the dipsh*t talk over a computer...keep it classy pal.

I don't believe Vander is a tease.  I believe it's important we get players like Vander as many minutes as possible before the BEAST season, and if you believe that Buzz knows what he's doing, then why is he giving all the minutes to a tease?  

[Henry Sugar]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

Doh!

The unsophisticated comment needs to be taken in the context of Buzz's press conference.

http://youtu.be/KFY0w95heAk

He mentions "unsophisticated" about five minutes or so before he talks about Junior, but Buzz uses the term in a positive context.  As in... our guys don't have a set practice schedule.  We bounce around because we're busy with classes.  We just work hard every day. 

I view unsophisticated as a synonym for grinder in "Buzz"

[g0lden3agle]

Seriously? Go back and look at Blue's minutes in respect to when the Golden Eagles played well. He started out playing about 27-28 minutes a game against the scrubs and ended up playing about half of those minutes down the stretch. So here we go again dipsh*t. Has nothing to do with the success of the team, and yes I know Buzz knows what he's doing...but Vander is tease.

Forgive Avid for interpreting your line of "Because of some good practices? Good lord, here we go again." to mean that you're in the camp of people that constantly question Buzz's starting lineup based on who practices the hardest.  Oh wait, there's no other way to interpret that line.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Could really care less who is starting tomorrow night... or even on January 1st for that matter. At the end of the games in crunch time we will be seeing Cad, DJO, Wilson, Crowder and Otule and I like the sound of that

[mileskishnish72]

Or could have the offense/defense subbing with DG on O.

[GGGG]

Seriously? Go back and look at Blue's minutes in respect to when the Golden Eagles played well. He started out playing about 27-28 minutes a game against the scrubs and ended up playing about half of those minutes down the stretch. So here we go again dipsh*t. Has nothing to do with the success of the team, and yes I know Buzz knows what he's doing...but Vander is tease.

Oh GMAFB.  Vander was a freshman...and like most freshman are inconsistant and have parts of their game that need development.

Interesting that Vander can be so derided and called a "tease," yet Davante (whose stats were no better and who rode the bench for most of the BE season) is praised for his "potential."

[NersEllenson]

Oh GMAFB.  Vander was a freshman...and like most freshman are inconsistant and have parts of their game that need development.

Interesting that Vander can be so derided and called a "tease," yet Davante (whose stats were no better and who rode the bench for most of the BE season) is praised for his "potential."

How are you going to say Davante stats were no better than Blue's last year - particularly in Big East play???!!  I have high hopes for Vander, but to make this the above statement is LUDICROUS.  Vander fell off significantly in Big East play, and Gardner, when given an opportunity, flourished in his limited minutes - at least from an offensive efficiency standpoint.  Also pretty sure I didn't hear Roy Williams or Coach K say, "We didn't have an answer for Blue," yet they did say that about Gardner...

[Brewtown Andy]

Told of Cadougan's comment, Williams said, "When you start talking about unsophisticated guys, he's at the top of that list."

Doh!

If you listen to the audio of this (up on MUTV Sports' site and available as a podcast from MU), Buzz is half laughing when he says this.

I got the impression Buzz just thought that Junior doesn't have a filter when it comes to talking to the media, or at all, maybe.

[dgies9156]

I hope this is indicative of significant growth on Vander's part this year. The good news is that if it is, it is a signal to anyone else looking at our program that Buzz can coach four- and five-star quality players and move them to the next level.

Also, if it is, it is a sign that we are as good as our press clippings say we might be.

On the other hand, Vander started early last year as well. It was the Big East season that did him in.

I'm hoping that this is the first of many good things to come this year.

[GGGG]

How are you going to say Davante stats were no better than Blue's last year - particularly in Big East play???!!  I have high hopes for Vander, but to make this the above statement is LUDICROUS. 

Vander had double digit minutes for every BE game except four.  Davante reached that mark in only six BE games (including the tournament) and had a couple DNPs.  By the end of the year, while Davante was more efficient, Vander had more points, rebounds, steals and an equal number of blocks per game.

So statistically they were relatively equal - my point stands and not as "LUDICROUS" as you think.

Furthermore, Vander played those minutes because he could defend.  Davante was more efficient offensively, but could defend as well as the chair I am sitting in right now.

[MUMac]

Vander had double digit minutes for every BE game except four.  Davante reached that mark in only six BE games (including the tournament) and had a couple DNPs.  By the end of the year, while Davante was more efficient, Vander had more points, rebounds, steals and an equal number of blocks per game.

So statistically they were relatively equal - my point stands and not as "LUDICROUS" as you think.

Furthermore, Vander played those minutes because he could defend.  Davante was more efficient offensively, but could defend as well as the chair I am sitting in right now.

Sultan, you hit to it a bit.  Too many people focus solely on one end of the court - offensive.  Yes, those are the sexy numbers to look at and compare.  I like Devante and see his potential.  He was put in, though, for scoring only.  His rebounding and defense were, well let's be nice, not up to his offensive game. 

Vander, on the other hand, was put in more for defense and help rebounding.  Hard to compare those two in stats when their purposes on seeing the court were entirely different.

[esotericmindguy]

Tough guy with the dipsh*t talk over a computer...keep it classy pal.

I don't believe Vander is a tease.  I believe it's important we get players like Vander as many minutes as possible before the BEAST season, and if you believe that Buzz knows what he's doing, then why is he giving all the minutes to a tease?  

Didn't I just explain this, he's a tease. He looks great in practice, pickup games, and against inferior opponents. But to start a 2 guard that can't shoot in college basketball is a huge mistake....especially considering your PG is an average perimeter shooter. Buzz does know what he's doing, which is why he used him as a defender off the bench down the stretch. If this guy wasn't a top 50 kid no way anyone would argue the point....you don't become a good shooter in 6 months.

And it's not really tough guy talk, but someone who turns a vander blue comment into a sweet 16 appearance is most likely a dipsh*t.