29 years ago today...

[Windyplayer]

http://www.roycedam.com/

Thanks. Christmas gifts...check.

[keefe]

our mascot is still a damn furry bird.

We should take solace in the fact that in this clean shaven age our mascot still sports fur.

Somehow, it harkens back to a better time when our coach thumbed his nose at the world and we played in a cozier home that delivered competitive advantage.  An age when our warriors were feared and we were always victorious. And as the tom tom beat faded we repaired back to our hogans and wigwams to find comfort in the musky richness of fur bearing friendship.

[keefe]

I wonder if he's still tying flies.

I called him a few years ago after reading about him from Scoop. He talked for an hour about everything from fly fishing to his combat experience on Iwo Jima.

I bought some of his nymphs for use on the Deschutes.

[DUNKS45]

We should take solace in the fact that in this clean shaven age our mascot still sports fur.

Somehow, it harkens back to a better time when our coach thumbed his nose at the world and we played in a cozier home that delivered competitive advantage.  An age when our warriors were feared and we were always victorious. And as the tom tom beat faded we repaired back to our hogans and wigwams to find comfort in the musky richness of fur bearing friendship.

I remember the arena so well, being right on top of the action. What a great home court advantage in those days. I started going to games in the early 60's when my cousin Rob Hornak played for Hickey, I was hooked ever since.

[Windyplayer]

I called him a few years ago after reading about him from Scoop. He talked for an hour about everything from fly fishing to his combat experience on Iwo Jima.

I bought some of his nymphs for use on the Deschutes.

Geography and fly fishing education in one post. Thanks to the post and the Internet, I am now more informed, generally speaking.

[tweakers_suck]

I voted for Lightning as the mascot and was surprised when Golden Eagles "won." But after all of these years, I still think like most  alums that Warriors is the better name. And I've moved on and don't really think much of it anymore. As I get older I find there are more pressing things to worry about.

If I had a choice between another Final Four or changing the name back to Warriors, I'd pick Final Four every time.

[Lennys Tap]

If I had a choice between another Final Four or changing the name back to Warriors, I'd pick Final Four every time.

I would add world peace and winning $300,000,000.00 in Powerball to things I would pick over changing our name back to Warriors. Of course if that 300 mil comes my way I'd readily part with 50 of it to bring it back.

[GooooMarquette]

Curious as to people's thoughts on this.

There are two things that keep coming up on the wish list for MU fans, but will never happen:  1.  Bringing back the Warriors nickname, and 2.  Bringing back D-1 football.

If you had the ability to make one or the other happen - totally ignoring politics and cost, and only focusing on the result - which would it be?

[Spotcheck Billy]

Curious as to people's thoughts on this.

There are two things that keep coming up on the wish list for MU fans, but will never happen:  1.  Bringing back the Warriors nickname, and 2.  Bringing back D-1 football.

If you had the ability to make one or the other happen - totally ignoring politics and cost, and only focusing on the result - which would it be?

If I had to pick, simple: WARRIORS!

[Benny B]

Since this damn thing won't die, how about a bit of a twist?


NCAA looks the other way when a mascot references a specific tribe and said tribe has ok'd the use of their tribal name/mascot (e.g. Florida State, Utah, Illinois, etc.).  Because "Warriors" generally references all Native American tribes (and not a specific tribe), NCAA has essentially prohibited its use even if it's still theoretically possible under certain circumstances (i.e. since the logistics of getting every Native American tribe to ok "Warriors" is logistically impossible).

Hypothetically, what if Warriors became the "Potawatomi Warriors" on the condition that MU's new logo be along the lines of the flame in:



Or some derivation thereof that basically gives the casino product placement on thirty-some regional/national TV broadcasts every year.

Would anyone be content with the potential quasi-commercialization (read: selling out) of MUBB in order to gain the Warriors nickname back?

[Benny B]

Curious as to people's thoughts on this.

There are two things that keep coming up on the wish list for MU fans, but will never happen:  1.  Bringing back the Warriors nickname, and 2.  Bringing back D-1 football.

If you had the ability to make one or the other happen - totally ignoring politics and cost, and only focusing on the result - which would it be?

Warriors.

[warriorchick]

Curious as to people's thoughts on this.

There are two things that keep coming up on the wish list for MU fans, but will never happen:  1.  Bringing back the Warriors nickname, and 2.  Bringing back D-1 football a football team that goes to a major bowl every year and plays their home games in an amazing state of the art stadium on campus.


If you had the ability to make one or the other happen - totally ignoring politics and cost, and only focusing on the result - which would it be?

FIFY

Hey, if you are going into Fantasyland, you may as well go all the way.

[GooooMarquette]

FIFY

Hey, if you are going into Fantasyland, you may as well go all the way.

If I was going all the way, the Warriors option would have included Hologram Al.

[mu_hilltopper]

Damnit, they took down the archives of the JS article.  Curse you, Gannett media.

[rocky_warrior]

Damnit, they took down the archives of the JS article.  Curse you, Gannett media.

I think I took some screen shots, if I can find them, I'll post a PDF.

[Badgerhater]

Gannett has been utterly horrible to the MJS.  I don't even read anymore.  Taking down the archives totally sucks.

[Coleman]

Gannett has been utterly horrible to the MJS.  I don't even read anymore.  Taking down the archives totally sucks.

Gannett has been horrible to every newspaper they buy. It has become a bunch of mini USA Todays with a skeleton crew adding minimal local news coverage.

[dgies9156]

OK, my annual rant. I'm a Warrior, not a Golden Eagle. The name reflected not just Wisconsin's heritage but also the bad ass attitude on campus that we had. We were Warriors.

First and foremost, Warriors isn't coming back. Not as long as there is an NCAA. You have a better chance of paying our basketball players a market rate for their services than you do of getting the Warrior back.

Secondly, we Warriors are dying off. The people who remember the glory years are in or near their 60s. Face it, we will be dead in a few years. Already, I'm almost willing to bet there are as many grads who know us as Golden Eagles (Furry Birds?) as there are alums who know us as Warriors.

Thirdly, we can't keep living in the past. Honor Coach Al, our players and our accomplishments, but gang, it is time to move on. I'm as excited about the next national championship (coming soon to a Marquette arena near you) as I am the last one.

Let's move on.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Amen brother dgies.

[Jay Bee]

Let's move on.

Never! We are the Marquette Warriors. I don't wear the chicken stuff.

[Nukem2]

First and foremost, Warriors isn't coming back. Not as long as there is an NCAA. You have a better chance of paying our basketball players a market rate for their services than you do of getting the Warrior back.

Has nothing to do with the NCAA.  Has to do with the Native Indian nations and the Jesuits.  As long as the mascot and logo had nothing to do with Native American Indians, the NCAA could give a wit as the Warrior name is not "offensive" by itself.  But, alas, that will not happen.  Forever Warriors!

[GGGG]

Has nothing to do with the NCAA.  Has to do with the Native Indian nations and the Jesuits.  As long as the mascot and logo had nothing to do with Native American Indians, the NCAA could give a wit as the Warrior name is not "offensive" by itself.  But, alas, that will not happen.  Forever Warriors!

As I have said many times, had Marquette dumped the Native imagery all together when they dumped Willie Wampum, we'd still be Warriors today.  It was the 20 years of trying to "respectfully" use Native imagery that killed it.  Those efforts seem very naive in retrospect.

[Nukem2]

As I have said many times, had Marquette dumped the Native imagery all together when they dumped Willie Wampum, we'd still be Warriors today.  It was the 20 years of trying to "respectfully" use Native imagery that killed it.  Those efforts seem very naive in retrospect.

Yep.

[wadesworld]

Never! We are the Marquette Warriors. I don't wear the chicken stuff.

Yup.

Has nothing to do with the NCAA.  Has to do with the Native Indian nations and the Jesuits.  As long as the mascot and logo had nothing to do with Native American Indians, the NCAA could give a wit as the Warrior name is not "offensive" by itself.  But, alas, that will not happen.  Forever Warriors!

Yup.

As I have said many times, had Marquette dumped the Native imagery all together when they dumped Willie Wampum, we'd still be Warriors today.  It was the 20 years of trying to "respectfully" use Native imagery that killed it.  Those efforts seem very naive in retrospect.

Yup.

[real chili 83]

Doesn't it really have to do with accepting an alleged payoff from the Potawatomi?  Has anyone really seen proof that this transaction took place?