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texaswarrior74

The tanned one may be looking for a job soon. As dependent on a PG as his offense is, not good news for the crimson and cream.

Freshman big Cody Zeller better be superman with as much as they will be relying on him this year.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/10/10/Indiana.Maurice.Cheek.ap/index.html?sct=cb_t2_a4

Lennys Tap

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on October 10, 2011, 08:32:41 PM
The tanned one may be looking for a job soon. As dependent on a PG as his offense is, not good news for the crimson and cream.

Freshman big Cody Zeller better be superman with as much as they will be relying on him this year.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/10/10/Indiana.Maurice.Cheek.ap/index.html?sct=cb_t2_a4

Creek isn't a point guard. Hulls is IU's point.

4everwarriors

No worries. Too Tan Tommy will try to spin it so the faithful will believe the injury bug is the only thing that keeps them from a national championship.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

HoopsMalone

Ouch.  Sorry for the kid.  He has had a tough college career.

rocky_warrior

Dude was probably running away from a tacking dummy, err...I mean....

nyg

Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 10, 2011, 11:44:41 PM
Ouch.  Sorry for the kid.  He has had a tough college career.

I feel the same.  Was a former MU recruit target from Oxon Hill, Md who I believe ruptured his patella previously. Those are two tough injuries.  

Dawson Rental

Quote from: nyg on October 11, 2011, 06:31:42 AM
I feel the same.  Was a former MU recruit target from Oxon Hill, Md who I believe ruptured his patella previously. Those are two tough injuries.  

I believe that he may even have been a MU commit--at the least he was a strong MU lean--then Crean left and took Creek along with him.  Not an unusual occurrence, but one that added to the rapid disaffection with Crean by much of the MU fan base.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

lurch91

Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 10, 2011, 11:44:41 PM
Ouch.  Sorry for the kid.  He has had a tough college career.

I agree, the poor kid has had to put up with multiple injuries so far in his college career.  Well, as Crean said, good thing there's a first class health facility..  in Indianapolis.

TedBaxter

Quote from: LittleMurs on October 11, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
I believe that he may even have been a MU commit--at the least he was a strong MU lean--then Crean left and took Creek along with him.  Not an unusual occurrence, but one that added to the rapid disaffection with Crean by much of the MU fan base.

Creek may have been a lean, but with kids choosing schools mainly because of the coach, there shouldn't have been any resentment that he ended up at Indiana.  Same thing with Nick Williams because Buzz never recruited Nick.  Tyshawn Taylor was a different story.
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Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 10, 2011, 08:55:16 PM
No worries. Too Tan Tommy will try to spin it so the faithful will believe the injury bug is the only thing that keeps them from a national championship.

Certainly worked with the fanbase here.

Canadian Dimes

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Am I the only one that takes great pleasure in this?


Actually, you have to feel really bad for a kid like Creek who started his Freshman year absolutely blazing.  I beleive he had 30+ against Kentucky on CBS before breaking a patella.  Then had the same injury last year on the other leg and now this.  No one envisions anything like happening to a kid even once.  He has now had 3 Junior Cadougan type injuries!!

What I do take tremendous pleasure in is the fact that it will greatly weaken Tan Tommy's already weak team.  USA Today just picked them to come in 11th in the Big 10, and that was before the Creek injury.

Another interesting aspect, that I will mention because we no longer have the World's greatest IU fan on board (chico) to tell everyone how great things are going in Bloomington, is the scholarship situation.

Crean over the Summer jettisoned or "Creaned" Bobby Capobianco and went right on signing players.  He currently has 14 players committed for next year.  That is one over the limit and has a Top 20 2012 2G from Indy coming to mid night madness.  That would put him at 15 and that does not even incude 4th year Junior Matt Roth who missed his Sophomore year with a knee injury and will most likely start this season.  Will he even have a scholarship next year?  Will also be in the same situation the year after When Creek returns for his potential redshirt year...someone will need to be creaned to make room.

What other players will be "creaned" to make room for the new comers?  Similar to what he created at MU Crean will again be "creaning" older more mature and experienced players for on paper younger more talented ones.  Once again creating the ever present younf dumb mistakes on the court, lack of leadership, and maybe most importantly the "we are young excuse".

Seems to be more of the same down in Bloomington.  So glad that tired...and slimy...act is gone.  

Golden Avalanche

This is a fuckin' shame. Creek has been snake-bitten since he stepped into Bloomington's limits. Always liked his game out of Connecticut. Really thought he'd be an impact guy if MU could have landed him and was disappointed we failed in that regard.

Crean and his program had some momentum building this summer but with Creek again down for the count, it seems Crean will never have a full deck in his rebuilding plan. Hard to judge a coach without their full deck.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: LittleMurs on October 11, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
I believe that he may even have been a MU commit--at the least he was a strong MU lean--then Crean left and took Creek along with him.  Not an unusual occurrence, but one that added to the rapid disaffection with Crean by much of the MU fan base.

The list of reasons to be "disaffected" with Tom Crean was long. Continuing to recruit an uncommitted high school junior (Maurice Creek) after Crean changed jobs didn't make that list with any MU fans I know.

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 11, 2011, 09:39:51 AM
The list of reasons to be "disaffected" with Tom Crean was long. Continuing to recruit an uncommitted high school junior (Maurice Creek) after Crean changed jobs didn't make that list with any MU fans I know.

Correct Tom Crean who is about as big a loser as they come as a person, had many reasons not to be liked.  Continuing to recruit an uncommitted junior in HS was not one of them.  Calling Eric Williams a committed Senior, tho was.

ZiggysFryBoy

well, it was either this or a bad case of the flu.  usually after his team gets smoked by 30 pts.

lab_warrior

My heart bleeds "It's Indiana, it's Indiana" crimson for poor Tom Crean. 

lurch91

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on October 11, 2011, 09:44:48 AM
  Calling Eric Williams a committed Senior, tho was.

I think that was Nick Williams, who transferred from IU after his freshman year.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on October 11, 2011, 09:24:34 AM


Crean and his program had some momentum building this summer but with Creek again down for the count, it seems Crean will never have a full deck in his rebuilding plan. Hard to judge a coach without their full deck.

Expecting anything from Creek going into this year would have been foolish. He was having a horrible year last year before his injury. If in year 4 at a top 6 program Tom Crean can't overcome an injury to a guy who became permanently damaged goods almost 2 years ago that's on him. All the enabling and excuses in the world from his syncophants won't change that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: lurch91 on October 11, 2011, 10:07:26 AM
I think that was Nick Williams, who transferred from IU after his freshman year.



He got Nick. He went after Erik but failed.

TedBaxter

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 11, 2011, 10:12:27 AM
He got Nick. He went after Erik but failed.

When Buzz was hired, did he want Nick Williams since he never had a hand in recruiting him?
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Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on October 11, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
So glad that tired...and slimy...act is gone.  

Tom Crean is a lot of things, but he is by no means "gone".


NersEllenson

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on October 11, 2011, 09:24:34 AM
This is a frackin' shame. Creek has been snake-bitten since he stepped into Bloomington's limits. Always liked his game out of Connecticut. Really thought he'd be an impact guy if MU could have landed him and was disappointed we failed in that regard.

Crean and his program had some momentum building this summer but with Creek again down for the count, it seems Crean will never have a full deck in his rebuilding plan. Hard to judge a coach without their full deck.

Wow - Would be nice if you showed the same sensitivity and compassion for Buzz at MU.  The double standard is comical.  What is your association with Crean, if you don't mind sharing?  Why all the love there, and skpeticism/criticism of OUR CURRENT HEAD COACH??  What's the deal?

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TedBaxter on October 11, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
When Buzz was hired, did he want Nick Williams since he never had a hand in recruiting him?

Don't think so. He was released almost immediately from his LOI. TC and the assistants that followed him to IU recruited Nick as the next DWade. He was going wherever Crean landed.

Canadian Dimes

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Quote from: lurch91 on October 11, 2011, 10:07:26 AM
I think that was Nick Williams, who transferred from IU after his freshman year.




Eric williams was a committed senior to be and verified that Crean was calling him trying to get him to IU. Akin to Buzz leaving and calling Steve Taylor trying to get him to follow him.

No defense on that loser move.

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 11, 2011, 10:33:24 AM
Don't think so. He was released almost immediately from his LOI. TC and the assistants that followed him to IU recruited Nick as the next DWade. He was going wherever Crean landed.

ARe you sure Nick williams was going to be the next Dwade?  i thought that was Mo Creek? or was it the next 2g he signed?

Funny I watched the video clip and he compared Mo Creek to .....ah you guessed it Dwade.

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