Tranghese Rips All Over Pitt/Cuse & ACC

[TallTitan34]

http://villanova.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1159&tid=147572007&mid=147572007&sid=1000&style=2

Vucat05's recap of Tranghese on radio:
Basically calling out the Presidents for having no loyalty and no integrity. Said he was basically shocked and had more faith in the people in charge than he should have. He's being pretty frank. Also said the ACC did this cause we have been 'kicking their butts' in Basketball for 10 years and this is the only way they can beat us.

[GGGG]

This is why Trangese is such a moron.  He actually thinks this was a basketball related move??  The BE's adherence to basketball is what got them in this mess to begin with.

[Abode4life]

I liked this quote from the nova board...

"Think about this our children will have to watch Duke vs UNC in MSG on Saturday night for the ACC Championship. Is there anything more disgusting then watching baby blue and Duke nerds? Its just absolutely awful idea."

[Clam Crowder]

Yeah the guy defending the basketball programs, and speaking out against Pitt and Cuse is the idiot here. The backstabbing President at Pitt seems like a really loyal guy.

[GGGG]

I am saying nothing about Pitt's President.  However Tranghese, and his lack of foresight, is exactly why the BE is in the situation it is in now.  He was not a good commissioner.  Every decision the BE made under his leadership was reactionary.

[MUMac]

I am saying nothing about Pitt's President.  However Tranghese, and his lack of foresight, is exactly why the BE is in the situation it is in now.  He was not a good commissioner.  Every decision the BE made under his leadership was reactionary.

A little harsh on the guy who oversaw one of the most powerful conferences for 19 years.  He tried to do something with football, but this was a basketball first conference and the football schools were not the prime football schools.  Not saying he was perfect, but I also don't see him as a moron either.

[GOO]

And if the BE didn't make reactionary decisions, we would not have been invited to the BE.  Getting into the BE, good or bad, will be determined over the course of the next month or so....  I suspect it will still be a good thing, especially if some of the B12 joins the BE schools.

[Pakuni]

I am saying nothing about Pitt's President.  However Tranghese, and his lack of foresight, is exactly why the BE is in the situation it is in now.  He was not a good commissioner.  Every decision the BE made under his leadership was reactionary.

What would you have done differently?

[mugrad2006]

I liked this quote from the nova board...

"Think about this our children will have to watch Duke vs UNC in MSG on Saturday night for the ACC Championship. Is there anything more disgusting then watching baby blue and Duke nerds? Its just absolutely awful idea."

My fiancee and friends of ours were planning on a vacation to NYC for the Big East tourney in two years.  Five glorious days of the best basketball on the planet.  Now this happens...

[TallTitan34]

Also in that interview Tranghese apparently ripped on Rutgers saying that people think they draw the NYC market, but they don't.

[GGGG]

What would you have done differently?

Not let Penn State get away.  Penn State wanted to be a BE member and create a football conference.  The BE turned them down because they didn't want them involved in basketball.  Penn State went to the Big Ten and the east's historically most dominant football power was now in a midwest conference.

[TallTitan34]

I love this Tranghese quote:

"Because [Rutgers] had 1 game televised on ESPN a few years ago that got good ratings, they think they matter"

[Hards Alumni]

This is why Trangese is such a moron.  He actually thinks this was a basketball related move??  The BE's adherence to basketball is what got them in this mess to begin with.

No, but he knows that if he says it publicly it will get the general public stirred up.

Which it has.

[Clam Crowder]

Tranghese did a great job making this conference into what it is today. His succesor was the one blind sided by this. It is a sad coincidence that Dave Gavitt died this week as well, he was a great man, and did a great deal for the Big East.

[Pakuni]

Not let Penn State get away.  Penn State wanted to be a BE member and create a football conference.  The BE turned them down because they didn't want them involved in basketball.  Penn State went to the Big Ten and the east's historically most dominant football power was now in a midwest conference.

How did Tranghese "let Penn State get away". He wasn't even commissioner when the conference denied PSU membership and rejected Paterno's plan for a football league (that would involve bringing in even more schools).
So I'm not sure how you pin that all on him.
And Penn State didn't join the Big 10 until more than a decade later, after the Big East landed programs like Miami and Virginia Tech.

In hindsight three decades later it's easy to criticize and say you would have done it differently, but at the time the mandate from school presidents was for the Big East to remain a basketball conference and it's hard to argue that Penn State would have imporved their standing as such. And it would be inaccurate and unfair to call Tranghese a moron over that.

[GGGG]

Penn State announced they were going to join the Big Ten in 1988, and they joined in 1990.  Maimi and Virginia Tech joined in 1991.  Penn State was the first domino to fall in that restructuring.

And Tranghese was #2 back then.

And I was specifically asked what I would have done differently.  I answered the question.

[Pakuni]

Penn State announced they were going to join the Big Ten in 1988, and they joined in 1990.  Maimi and Virginia Tech joined in 1991.  Penn State was the first domino to fall in that restructuring.

And Tranghese was #2 back then.

And I was specifically asked what I would have done differently.  I answered the question.

My bad on '95, but the announcement actually came in December 1989 ....
Reagrdless, if the only thing you can point to over the guy's nearly 30 years with the conference is letting Penn State "get away" - when he wasn't even the guy in charge and the membership wanted nothing to do with a football conference - then I'd say he had a pretty good tenure.

Really the ultimate example of hindsight being 20/20.

[Boone]

Only a Monday morning QB would call Tranghese an idiot. Give me a break.

[buckchuckler]

Wasn't it Pitt's president that spearheaded suing BC when they went to the ACC?

[Pakuni]

Wasn't it Pitt's president that spearheaded suing BC when they went to the ACC?

Yep.
Mark Nordenberg this weekend:
"We did make it clear within the Big East, we were willing to improve the conference in any way we were asked. At the same time, we made it very clear that if other opportunities did arise, we would feel obligated to seriously assess them and look at the long-term future of the University of Pittsburgh."

Mark Nordenberg in 2003 when BC, VaTech, Miami left:
"This is a case that involves broken commitments, secret dealings, breaches of fiduciary responsibility, the misappropriations of conference opportunities and predatory attempts to eliminate competition."

[Marqus Howard]

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/35551/video-tranghese-embarrassed-by-raid

video of his comments...

[Golden Avalanche]

I love this Tranghese quote:

"Because [Rutgers] had 1 game televised on ESPN a few years ago that got good ratings, they think they matter"

I can't speak for every sports fans in Jersey, but I'd guess 90% of us think this way as it relates to Rutgers. They are an afterthought in their own state.

[GGGG]

Only a Monday morning QB would call Tranghese an idiot. Give me a break.

Ask fans of the football schools what they think of him.....the answer will be "not much."

[MUMac]

How did Tranghese "let Penn State get away". He wasn't even commissioner when the conference denied PSU membership and rejected Paterno's plan for a football league (that would involve bringing in even more schools).
So I'm not sure how you pin that all on him.
And Penn State didn't join the Big 10 until more than a decade later, after the Big East landed programs like Miami and Virginia Tech.

In hindsight three decades later it's easy to criticize and say you would have done it differently, but at the time the mandate from school presidents was for the Big East to remain a basketball conference and it's hard to argue that Penn State would have imporved their standing as such. And it would be inaccurate and unfair to call Tranghese a moron over that.

It was 1985 when PSU applied for the BE.  They added no value to the league at the time, as it was a BB only league and the football schools were independents.  In 1985, football was no where near the money maker or driver that it is now.  Basketball drove the league and the schools.

Was it a mistake not to add PSU?  I am not so sure considering the time and reasons.

[mu03eng]

Penn State announced they were going to join the Big Ten in 1988, and they joined in 1990.  Maimi and Virginia Tech joined in 1991.  Penn State was the first domino to fall in that restructuring.

And Tranghese was #2 back then.

And I was specifically asked what I would have done differently.  I answered the question.

Pitt had a ton to do with how Penn State fell out and ended up in the Big 10 to the point that Pitt and Penn State will not play a game let alone be in the same conference.  To hang Penn State on Tranghese would be ridiculous.