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Skatastrophy

It has been 2 months since Cottingham and MU parted ways.  I haven't heard a peep about our AD search, or about naming another interim AD.

At what point does this become a problem?  At some point we have to schedule for next year.  At some point we'll need professional representation to the Big East, especially with the constant threat of Conference shakeups.

Any thoughts?  Has any AD search by MU been semi-public, or has it always been quiet?  Is two months not as long as it feels like it is during the doldrums of summer?

tower912

It isn't that long and better to have silence than an endless cavalcade of rumors, followed by that person not coming, followed by ranting, self-loathing, lashing out, etc. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

They have said all along that they were going to do a national search in the fall.  This makes sense with a new President coming in.  This likely means nobody announced until toward the end of the year.

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Nukem2

An article on Fr. Pilarz last week in the Journal-Sentinel indicated that MU was going to solicit contribution from ADs and other informed people as to what MU needs in an AD and, hopefully, hire a new AD by the end of the academic year.  So, it's still going to be quite a while.  Unfortunate with what's going on with conference realignment talk :-\

TallTitan34

Craig Pintens for Marquette Athletic Director!

brewcity77

I really hope we don't take too long on this. The next wave of conference reshuffling is happening now, and the last thing we can afford is to be on uncertain ground at this time.

TallTitan34


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brewcity77

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 07, 2011, 04:09:44 PMName Broeker AD... and move on...

That would be a mistake. Not necessarily a bad choice, but definitely a mistake.

TallTitan34


Pakuni

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 07, 2011, 04:09:44 PM
Name Broeker AD... and move on...

Quickly moving to hire a lesser known guy from within instead of conducting a public search involving lots of big names never works out.
Oh, wait ....


Blackhat

Not sure why the deputy AD and primary overseer of the men's basketball program when all the "badness" went down would be promoted. 

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on September 07, 2011, 04:27:14 PMQuickly moving to hire a lesser known guy from within instead of conducting a public search involving lots of big names never works out.
Oh, wait ....

Broeker could be the right choice. I wouldn't even have a problem with him being hired. But we have to at least give the impression that we are looking without as well as within. Right now, we are under a microscope. Those articles in the MJS and Trib aren't that long ago. If we just promote Broeker, all we'll hear is that we picked the guy who was in charge of the basketball program when the controversy started.

If we hire Broeker in the end, fine, but there has to be competition. There has to be the impression that there's a new sheriff in town, and that he is the guy to fix the problems we've encountered over the past year. Rubber-stamping Broeker won't accomplish that.

If we bring in 3-4 other candidates and end up with Broeker, and he comes out with a strong stance of change, it'll work, but if we just hand him the reins without having to earn it the perception will be that what happened over the last year was acceptable.

Canadian Dimes

"and he comes out with a strong stance of change",.....huh?

muball

if Broeker is the right person u make the decision and go for him asap, they did that with Buzz and look at the results. If he is not then u look elsewhere. This is not the time to go thru motions for PR purposes if he is the right person. Without question the JS will have negative comments if we keep him, if we go outside why we did not promote from within so it is obvious that MU was quilty of whatever the JS comments on. No win situation for MU PR wise so make the right choice as soon as possible and ignore the comments. We had shots taken at MU when Buzz was picked and look at our success.

PuertoRicanNightmare

The only people who care who our athletic director is are other athletic administrators. It's a total non-story.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 07, 2011, 07:52:58 PM
The only people who care who our athletic director is are other athletic administrators. It's a total non-story.

as long as the process isn't flawed, I don't care who they get.  It's the process that matters.

rocky_warrior

Personally, I like to wait 5 years before judging the effectiveness of an AD, so I've got no qualms about keeping Broeker as interim AD until I can judge him in 2016.

brewcity77

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 07, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
"and he comes out with a strong stance of change",.....huh?

He makes it clear that what's been tolerated in the past year won't be.

GGGG

And to me that is the bigger issue that the AD is going to have to deal with.  And I think "accountability" is a better word than "change."  The conference relocation item is more of a meta-issue that will work itself out.  Frankly either the MU is part of the BE, or if the BE breaks apart, will be part of a conference with a mix of BE remnants and other basketball schools. 

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 08, 2011, 05:15:37 AM
He makes it clear that what's been tolerated in the past year won't be.

First of all, where has MU or anyone ever stated it was tolerated?

Secondly, define "what".... do you really know what happened?

Is part of the "what" the fact that MU did not break basically every privacy law on the books and tell you what each person specifically said in each incident? 

It seems to me Singleton was removed from the program...how's that for tolerance? 

Blue went thru the system and paid his price.  Hopefully, he learned his lesson and my guess is it was addressed with the coaches and the team and Vander had his penalties to pay within the confines of the team.

The other incident was on a drunken Halloween party with innappropraite harrassment.  Again, my guess is there were repercussions for the players that Mu has chosen not to tell you about. 

To make a statement that was has happened "has been tolerated" is incredibly is a baseless, naive, ignorant statement.

brewcity77

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMFirst of all, where has MU or anyone ever stated it was tolerated?

No, but if you rubber-stamp Broeker, it gives the impression that it is being tolerated.

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMSecondly, define "what".... do you really know what happened?

That question is irrelevant. What I do or do not know doesn't matter. It's the perception that's out there of what happened.

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMIs part of the "what" the fact that MU did not break basically every privacy law on the books and tell you what each person specifically said in each incident?

Again, irrelevant.

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMIt seems to me Singleton was removed from the program...how's that for tolerance?

Dave Singleton is an unknown walk-on that never played for us. His name won't resonate with any of our critics. It doesn't matter what we, the Marquette faithful, think, it's what people outside of Marquette think. And none of them give a damn about Dave Singleton.

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMBlue went thru the system and paid his price.  Hopefully, he learned his lesson and my guess is it was addressed with the coaches and the team and Vander had his penalties to pay within the confines of the team.

Hopefully so. But this isn't about internal actions, it's about actions that are visible to the general public.

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on September 08, 2011, 11:13:45 AMThe other incident was on a drunken Halloween party with innappropraite harrassment.  Again, my guess is there were repercussions for the players that Mu has chosen not to tell you about.  

To make a statement that was has happened "has been tolerated" is incredibly is a baseless, naive, ignorant statement.

The only naive, ignorant statements here are you thinking that my opinion or knowledge is even remotely salient to the current debate. This isn't about me, this isn't about you.

Bottom line, Marquette should have a positive face to the outside world. Not just people who view us neutrally, but if nothing else, potential recruits. Say a recruit is considering Marquette and Random University. Right after we hire Broeker, the coach from Random U is sitting in the recruit's living room, telling mom "You heard about the sexual assault with the basketball team at Marquette, right? Did you know that right after that happened, they promoted the director of the basketball program to director of all athletics?" How does that go over? Not very well, I'm guessing.

We have to conduct a thorough search and can't just rubber-stamp an in-house hire. Whomever we pick has to be able to project the image that they are here to clean up what's been going on, even if it was isolated incidents that are unlikely to be repeated, because we have to project the right image to the public and to future students and recruits. We have to convince future recruits parents that their kids will be given the correct guidance at Marquette and we have to convince future students that they don't have to fear going to a University where the basketball team is allowed to run wild. Whether that's the case or not is completely irrelevant, it's the perception that has been painted by the MJS and the Trib and needs to be refuted by our new AD hire.

The events of the past year, regardless of what is true or what anyone knows, have been a black eye on the basketball program and Marquette University as a whole. This hire must be a move to counteract that perception. Anything less would do a disservice to the school and everyone involved with it, including us as alumni.


TallTitan34

Quote from: AhoyaX on September 09, 2011, 09:40:37 AM
Sorry TT, looks like someone beat you to Pintens:

http://insideoregon.uoregon.edu/lsu%E2%80%99s-craig-pintens-hired-for-uo-athletics-marketing-pr/

I still maintain my campaign for Pintens! 

You could hire a guy from both within and outside the program with Pintens!


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