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bamamarquettefan

No real surprise here, but a pretty good read on how much more common decommitting is becoming.  This might shed some light on people concerned when Maymon left etc. - it is happening more and more everywhere.  Luke Winn also notes that the averages indicate that one in 6 Top 100 players each year will end up at another school, so maybe we will get someone we were shooting for as a transfer:

"Our data revealed that a player who attended multiple high schools was almost twice as likely to decommit from a college than was a single-HS recruit."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/luke_winn/08/01/commitment.trends/index.html#ixzz1V8s7VDmy
The www.valueaddsports.com analysis of basketball, football and baseball players are intended to neither be too hot or too cold - hundreds immerse themselves in studies of stats not of interest to broader fan bases (too hot), while others still insist on pure observation (too cold).

rocky_warrior

On this topic, if you get ESPN the magazine, or have insider access, there was a good read from their "coach x" article in the Aug 8 issue.  Here's a blurb talking about it that I can link to publicly...

See here for a blog about it: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/33461/coach-x-talks-summer-recruiting
QuoteRight now we've got two evaluation periods in July that total 20 days, plus 161 days from October to March. And it's tough to get on the road during the academic year, when I'm focused on my team. I promised my recruits and their families that I'd help them mature, and I'm supposed to leave campus every free moment to see a high school game? So, basically we get a couple of days at the big sneaker camps in July or one or two visits to the kid's high school to see whether he'd be a good fit. That's where the NCAA has really hamstrung the coaches. The recruiting period gets shorter, you have only a finite period of time to see a kid and it forces coaches to go off recruiting lists. And people are shocked that there are more transfers than ever? We make mistakes.

tower912

So, MU's transfer stats are not outliers.    Statistically, transfers are player driven, not program driven.     Changing HS's is an indicator of changing colleges.   Here is hoping that Mr. Mayo can buck that.   In his favor, he has had the same circle of advisors all along.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: rocky_warrior on August 15, 2011, 06:38:45 PM
The recruiting period gets shorter, you have only a finite period of time to see a kid and it forces coaches to go off recruiting lists. And people are shocked that there are more transfers than ever? We make mistakes.

See the other thread ... Roy Williams never makes mistakes.

Seriously, we discussed this before ....

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.msg279732#msg279732

Schools like UNC, UCLA Georgetown and Kentucky have lots of turnover via transfer.  More than MU.  And don't forget ND.  Their best player last year, and a big reason they were a top 10 most of the season, was a transfer ... Ben Hansborourgh.

Today you're not a good program unless you get transfers.  Stable programs that recruit only 4 year players and stick with them lose.

tower912

No, they perform well in an inferior basketball conference and then flameout in the big dance by getting out-athleted by Cornell and Davidson.   ;D
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lurch91

Quote from: tower912 on August 15, 2011, 07:40:38 PM
So, MU's transfer stats are not outliers.    Statistically, transfers are player driven, not program driven.     Changing HS's is an indicator of changing colleges.   Here is hoping that Mr. Mayo can buck that.   In his favor, he has had the same circle of advisors all along.

I think there are two kinds of transfers, the kids who transfer on advice of parents/handlers to find more playing time or to increase their profile, and kids that transfer because reasons unrelated to basketball.

The Trevor Mbakwe's vs. the Todd Mayo's of the high school basketball landscape.



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